2011.06.18 TRIAL Day Twenty-two (Morning Session Only)

[21merc7]

Plants benift from minerals and chemistry of decomposition

 

[Curious Me]

Dr. S was disappointed that there was not tissue or anything to require him to use the boatload of gloves and aprons he brought with him. ICA didn't speak up to tell anyone where the body was until it was totally decomposed is what I hear.

 

[sleutherontheside]

Dr. Spitz is just adding drama to the testimony. The autopsy was done properly in accordance with guidelines for skeletal remains. Remain calm.....he will not ruin this. JA is READY!!

 

[deelytful1]

I really hope we get to Ashton's cross today! I'm putting so much faith in him!

 

[logicalgirl]

Why are the Anthony's in the courtroom?? I thought they left when Dr. G testified.

George left the courtroom when Dr Spitz began his testimony. He has not returned. Cindy is listening but not watching, her head is down.

 

[Quiche]

Rut Ro


This is what you get when you get an elderly expert...he did not use gloves when he examined Caylee's skull...THAT is a big NO-NO!

I actually thought I heard that wrong! There was no need to protect HIMSELF! Whoa, so out of touch. Nice.

 

[watergirl]

Anyone else notice her head bobbing?

Thoughts?

 

[Tuffy]

Rut Ro


This is what you get when you get an elderly expert...he did not use gloves when he examined Caylee's skull...THAT is a big NO-NO!

Yep. I couldn't believe my ears! He said because his hands were clean?

 

[CementPond]

I think I will faint if the defense actually gets a witness up there that tells us something we don't know already. Sheesh!

 

[Searchfortruth]

Dr. Spitz said that the skull was found on the left side, the same side that she lay on in the trunk of Casey's car, IIRC.

 

[JustMeDeb]

Video of JP giving JB the smackdown:

http://www.wesh.com/r-video/28280696/detail.html

 

[Ricki]

I am sorry but his testimony is helping the SA case I think. He just said several things to bolster the SA case. One, that the body was there months and months and months and he admitted that the duct tape was on the face. He can go on and on about no this or that on the tape. JA will not have much to do with the witness to get him to agree with the SA conclusions...

Maybe Dr Spitz telling duct tape was loosely on the face is making that 1 tear in ICA. His words just go along with the states findings.

 

[MissJames]

So Dr. G was supposed to set aside standard protocol to let him into the autopsy,even though that it never done and the remains were not even identified, but she was not supposed to set (his) standard protocol of opening the skull, even though there was no tissue left and she could see into the skull.
Remember,she rinsed the interior out .

 

[strawberry]

Quoted from http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2011/06/casey-anthony-unfounded-conclusion-mystery-man-what-next.html from June 15:

WKMG-Channel 6 this afternoon talked to Dr. Werner Spitz, a forensic pathologist who disagrees with Dr. Jan Garavaglia’s conclusion that Caylee Anthony’s manner of death was homicide.

Spitz’s take on that finding? “Absolutely not,” Spitz told WKMG’s Tony Pipitone. “The determination of homicide is jumping to conclusions, because it is unfounded, I think.”

Pipitone conducted the first-rate interview, which showed his deep knowledge of the case.

But the analysts on WOFL-Channel 35 were stunned that a defense witness had gone on television. “If I were the defense attorneys, I’d be doing back flips,” attorney Hal Uhrig said. “You just don’t go on TV and go through a preview of what your expected testimony is going to be.” Attorney Diana Tennis said the defense attorneys had to be “horrified” that a witness was talking on television, which she called “unseemly and unprofessional.”

Spitz also told Pipitone: “I don’t know who put the duct tape on her. I don’t know the identity of that person. That would have been fine if somebody specifically had fingerprints on the duct tape. Well, that’s missing. I don’t know who did that. … The duct tape would have come off when the body decomposed, because there was no bond of the duct tape with the bone.”

Spitz said he will travel to Orlando on Thursday and could testify on Friday or Saturday. He said he had been working on the case for a year, had never submitted a bill and had never been paid by anyone.

So he basically admitted that someone DID put duct tape on Caylee???

 

[Wise Old Owl]

Did he just say that he DIDN'T wear gloves while conducting his autopsy because it was just bone? You ALWAYS WEAR GLOVES! OMG

back. to. sitting. on. hands.

 

[Chiquita71]

Plants, minerals, chemistry, dog, bus car...

CM: dr. g said the duct tape was clearly placed prior to decomp what do ya say?

when duct tape is applied to the skin...the duct tape does not do anything it becomes loose because the flesh has rotted off...

oh, so it couldn't have been on her because now CAYLEE has NO FLESH so............well there you go

he says the bone shows you it was never attached. Oh, that makes sense.

 

[Amster]

So....what! The duct tape was to hold the jaw in place?

 

[uklaw]

:maddening:

Legitimate though.

It must be borne in mind that we (in the UK, USA, Canada, in fact every democracy apart from Continental Europe unless much mistaken) have an Adversarial Legal System.

That means both sides present the evidence and arguments that support their position (I have always thought as a matter of propriety that a Public Prosecutor should be restricted from presenting evidence which could at all be misleading or portray the truth of the matter in a false light and be under a greater duty to actually ensure that the evidence they present does not represent anything thats not true).

Therefore, it is entirely proper that the Defense present evidence to rebut and undermine the prosecutions case and their evidence and witnesses. To not do so when ethically possible would be (in my view) malpractice and ineffective assistance.

Indeed, I feel that the Defense have not adequately represented ICA's position and that as such the prosecution have an upper hand in adversarial proceedings.

Link:
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[YellowSubmarine]

I think it's amusing he's repeating over and over about the tape being on her face since the DT said there is no proof of that

 

[Tuffy]

Anyone else notice her head bobbing?

Thoughts?

Casey's head? Yep, very slight but constant bobbing.