"a specific tool ...designed for a specific audience."

[wondering1]

Just to see if I have this part straight, there are allegations of dog abuse by DD but we cannot link to where that comes from? and this is related to the topic how?
These are real questions from me because I have no idea what that is all about exactly.
gracias in advance.

I can answer the first part. The link is to a blog that was public and referenced here a long time ago, and has since been made private. But, the specific topic of dede's blog about this dog was discussed by posters here several times when it was open. Unlike FB, a private blog from this particular hosting site still shows up in the cache if, as here, the blog was public when posted. So it can still be accessed that way. So kind of a hybrid.

I'll leave the relevance to SMM since she has already expressed her pov on that issue.

Hope that helps.

 

[eyes4crime]

Absolutely. How is her cruelty to a dog over 2 years ago a specific tool designed for a specific audience, then? I am not trying to be facetious. I really want to know.

Seems simple to me, someone needs to verify that Dede was charged with animal abuse..it would show up on her record. I'm sure the owner of the puppy/dog would file charges against Dede, especially to get the vet fees taken care of. For those who have posted Dede's driving records, please post the charge for animal abuse. TIA. moo mho

 

[pufnstuf]

Just to see if I have this part straight, there are allegations of dog abuse by DD but we cannot link to where that comes from? and this is related to the topic how?
These are real questions from me because I have no idea what that is all about exactly.
gracias in advance.

Hi, JBean. According to an earlier post in this thread, mods had allowed the discussion previously on another thread.

The post comes from Dede's blog which is linked earlier in this thread.

This is related to the original post in that it defines the character of the person that, as I said in my OP, I believe is becoming increasingly focused on by LE.

While I didn't bring up the dog post, I do think that it has merit to stay in this thread because, in my opinion, it shows that someone who took care of a defenseless animal for money abused that animal. And, as I linked the report by the MSPCA, it's indicative of antisocial behavior.

 

[wondering1]

It may be off topic but it seems to generate a lot of interest.

She may have had a specific audience in mind when she wrote about it :angel:

I guessing the owner of the dog was not among them! What are you thinking...:innocent:

 

[eyes4crime]

I guessing the owner of the dog was not among them! What are you thinking...:innocent:

Did the owner of the dog press charges for animal abuse? If so, please post the charges, I would appreciate seeing them. TIA

 

[wondering1]

Did the owner of the dog press charges for animal abuse? If so, please post the charges, I would appreciate seeing them. TIA

I have no idea if they did or didn't. And it doesn't matter to me at all whether she was charged. If you want to look into it yourself, feel free.

 

[stmarysmead]

Just to be clear...my "YOU' begins a rhetorical question...it is directed at no one.

Frankly, I'm thinking of even people who just read here...when I write it. People who just follow the debate.

Who of "You" , who of any of us...wants to excuse Dede...wants to brudh this off? Who wants to leave anyone or anything helpless with the cteature who could, day after day...put a helpless puppy through this...till it is bleeding in its hunger and thrist?

But these are the words of Dede..on her own blog...the topic of her choosing.

 

[JBean]

Hi, JBean. According to an earlier post in this thread, mods had allowed the discussion previously on another thread.

The post comes from Dede's blog which is linked earlier in this thread.

This is related to the original post in that it defines the character of the person that, as I said in my OP, I believe is becoming increasingly focused on by LE.

While I didn't bring up the dog post, I do think that it has merit to stay in this thread because, in my opinion, it shows that someone who took care of a defenseless animal for money abused that animal. And, as I linked the report by the MSPCA, it's indicative of antisocial behavior.

I looked at that post and there were exactly 3 posts about the 'dog" in that thread so I wasn't able to glean too much about the incident from it.

If the moderators have no problems with discussing a private blog then I have no problem with it either. this thread just seems to be all over the place and I am unclear as to what is being discussed at this point.
I'll see if I can catch up so I can hopefully add something to the conversation too.

 

[angelswatchoverthem]

She knew the first day. It continued for 5 or 6. The animal bloodied itself trying to get water or food. She was being paid to care for this dog.

Yeah, this shows a real caring person, IMO, NOT! It would have been kinder to place the animal in a boarding kennel, and the unfortunate owners of the doggie would have got a better deal for their pet. Maybe they shoulda put DD in a cage!:furious:

 

[stmarysmead]

"Did the owner of the dog press charges for animal abuse? If so, please post the charges, I would appreciate seeing them. TIA "



Every time a child is abused, it does not end in charges. Every time a wife is beaten, it dies not end in charges.

Wouldn't life be simple...if there was a magic police record imposed by some all seeing authority...so that cruel, sadistic abusers had a clear record.

 

[Donjeta]

I actually wondered if the dog's owner was the other part of "we" who found out things about the dog and figured out these solutions. DS seems to have lived alone so I'm not sure who else she'd have talked about.

 

[eyes4crime]

I have no idea if they did or didn't. And it doesn't matter to me at all whether she was charged. If you want to look into it yourself, feel free.

Nope - I couldn't find any criminal record of animal abuse by Dede. The owner must not have pressed charges. Wonder why? If the owner didn't think his/her puppy was abused, why should we? moo mho hoo

 

[Donjeta]

I've no idea what this particular dog owner is like but I don't think the owners' opinions necessarily are the golden standard in animal cruelty cases because animal cruelty quite frequently gets reported by concerned outsiders seeing the owners abusing their animals and thinking it's not wrong.

 

[JBean]

I am seeing quotes from said blog with no link. No can do people.
Cannot copy and paste written information from another site and not credit the site.

PLEASE do not do that.

also puf says there is already discussion about the dog on another thread. can someone locate it and take the conversation over <------there?

 

[debs]

........well, so back to my question about why Desiree and Kaine's profile, albeit not full profile, is on the flier asking for people to come forward if they saw ANY OF THE PEOPLE.

 

[eyes4crime]

I've no idea what this particular dog owner is like but I don't think the owners' opinions necessarily are the golden standard in animal cruelty cases because animal cruelty quite frequently gets reported by concerned outsiders seeing the owners abusing their animals and thinking it's not wrong.

Speaking for myself only, an animal lover to the max. A dog's nose is extremely sensitive. If my dog had a scraped, bleeding, nose, and there was no cleaning and antibiotic placed on it, or a trip to the vet, and an infection began - I would want money for the vet bills. I would definitely press charges if my puppy/dog was injured by, what I thought, cruel and unusual treatment. I would press charges to ensure that person would never dog watch again. No doubt about it. moo mho

 

[stmarysmead]

I can't edit so I'll correct mine here. I apologise.

Thanks to Chilifries!


"4. We found out on the second day that when I shut him in my little laundry room with his water & food dish, he will dump the contents of both all over the floor. So he's had to spend his days locked in a teeny room with no water or food.

5. We didn't find out until the 4th or 5th day where the blood was coming from. When he's locked in the laundry room, there is just enough clearance under the door for him to get his nose wedged under it. Because the door is cheap and the bottom edges aren't sanded smooth, he scraped a good chunk of skin off the top of his nose. Consequently, there is blood all over the laundry room floor, the rugs in my bathroom, a vanity bench, my bedding including a down comforter, and my microsuade couch."

"Here is her actual blog about the puppy, saved in Google cache (just click "cancel" when prompted for a password):
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...-to-go-sideways.html&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...&ct=clnk&gl=us

 

[debs]

Speaking for myself only, an animal lover to the max. A dog's nose is extremely sensitive. If my dog had a scraped, bleeding, nose, and there was no cleaning and antibiotic placed on it, or a trip to the vet, and an infection began - I would want money for the vet bills. I would definitely press charges if my puppy/dog was injured by, what I thought, cruel and unusual treatment. I would press charges to ensure that person would never dog watch again. No doubt about it. moo mho

Oh, she didn't treat the puppy's nose and blogged about that, too? I missed that.

 

[Donjeta]

This was linked earlier in the thread.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...-to-go-sideways.html&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

IMO Kaine and Desiree's partial jaws were in the flier because LE wanted to use recent photos of Terri that they cut off from photos taken with her standing beside Kaine and Desiree.

No doubt LE would be very interested in any sightings of Kaine and Desiree at the school since they apparently didn't say they were there but if they had some reason for suspecting their presence and specifically wanting information about Kaine and Desiree they should IMO have included pictures of more of their anatomy. It is hard to identify anybody on the basis of lower jaw and if you cut people out of photographs people tend to suppose they're not important so people could easily miss that they were meant to say they saw Kaine and Desiree there.

 

[wondering1]

Nope - I couldn't find any criminal record of animal abuse by Dede. The owner must not have pressed charges. Wonder why? If the owner didn't think his/her puppy was abused, why should we? moo mho hoo

I don't know why the owners didn't file charges, although I have my own speculation -- or even if they did and it didn't come up in a search. And *we* don't have to think anything. You're certainly free to think what she describes is just fine. I don't. I read all I need to know, and I think it's horrible. My opinion isn't going to change because you can't find an animal abuse charge.