GUILTY Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #216

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Welcome back to the Delphi Murders discussion thread.

On the afternoon of Feb. 13th, 2017, best friends Abigail Williams and Liberty German were dropped off at a bridge in the town of Delphi. On Feb 14th their bodies were discovered around noon about 50 feet from the north bank of Deer Creek which is about 0.5 miles from the bridge.

Richard Allen has been arrested and charged with the murders of Abby and Libby
ISP page dedicated to the investigation (includes audio of suspect)

FOR MORE CLICK HERE FOR THE CARROL COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE FACEBOOK PAGE.

Anyone with information about this case, no matter how insignificant, is encouraged to call the Delphi Homicide Investigation Tip Line at
(844) 459-5786.

Information can also be reported by calling the Indiana State Police at(800) 382-7537, or the Carroll County Sheriff's Department at (765) 564-2413.

Information can also be emailed to Abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com


PICTURES OF ABBY AND LIBBY

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Case map by skibaboo updated with grayhuze crime flow video
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Verified Insiders: None in this case at this time. Verified Professional, Member michael.gartley, is a Verified Expert in Imaging Science.

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DO NOT post photos of random individuals (including persons featured in MSM articles about other area crimes) to compare to the images of unidentified suspect on the bridge.

PLEASE DO NOT POST PICTURES OF SEX OFFENDERS!

Do not sleuth family, PERIOD. This includes previous public records which have nothing to do with this case. They are victims here. Plain and simple.

If you feel you have a tip, by all means, phone it in. Do NOT discuss your tip here. Contact the authorities and give them time to follow your lead.

NOTE - per Tricia and Sillybilly’s 5.28.2021 post here, JBC as a poi is now open for discussion in the Delphi thread.


Added 12/12/21

For general discussion on KAK’s current case please use his thread.
IN, Peru - Kegan Anthony Kline, 27, arrested Aug 29, 2020, 30 Counts associated with CSAM
 
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A consolidation of ADMIN & MOD notes (edited November 24, 2022):

- Members are allowed to discuss Richard Allen's voice as heard on the Gray Hughes podcast. Members may NOT link directly to RA's wife’s social media accounts.

- Speculation about RA’s possible involvement in other cases belongs in the OTHER CASES thread.


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Sorry folks, but statement analysis, body language analysis, amateur handwriting analysis is not allowed unless sourced to a credentialed, forensic specialist involved in the case under discussion.

This discussion is dedicated to Abby and Libby. Posts that do not relate directly to their case are off topic and such posts get removed. If you wish to discuss personal matters, please do so with your WS friends through PM or in the basement.

Also, the presumption of innocence is part and parcel of the judicial process. It does not apply to the general public who are entitled to express their opinion. Members are not here to be lectured or chastised by others for expressing their personal opinions. If you have an issue, use the Report feature and let Mods or Admins determine what is or is not okay to post.

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My opinion follows. Count me as the 13th juror to vote guilty. The jury heard the testimony, saw the evidence, and came to the most fundamentally sane conclusion. I truly believe social media, the whole gamut, was way off base in terms of reality in this entire case, and in that courtroom. 12 jurors sat through all the prosecution and defense had to offer. They took what they were given and found him guilty. I concur.

Abby and Libby, two most beautiful young ladies, brutally murdered...though we never met, I feel as though I've known them.

May peace be with their families and loved ones.
 
I'm less worried regarding appeals than I was about verdict. The Prosecutors and KG from the MS and a couple of other legal experts that I have trust in (meaning they usually opine close to what I see being played out in the cases I follow) have offered that JG is almost always ruling textbook rulings when it comes to D vs P. In fact KG disagreed that there was cause to allow RAs "holding conditions" to be shown while the more recent videos of him threatening guards were not shown to the jury. He said this was the only decision a third party could find questionable.


I was way more doubtful that 12 ppl could understand the tool mark evidence and the data of the timeline, than I am that SCOIN will reject the appeals.

All MOO
 
@minor4th
Last thread closed.. you noted there may have been a different outcome, had the alternate suspects been allowed. I truly believe had Odinism been introduced, the jury would have reached the same conclusion, only more quickly. The ritual angle was ludicrous, especially when compared to the much more likely motive of sexual assault.

jmo
 
@minor4th
Last thread closed.. you noted there may have been a different outcome, had the alternate suspects been allowed. I truly believe had Odinism been introduced, the jury would have reached the same conclusion, only more quickly. The ritual angle was ludicrous, especially when compared to the much more likely motive of sexual assault.

jmo
10000% this. The moment the conflicting timelines would have been introduced the Jury that asked so many excellent questions would have roasted any magick experts.

All MOO
 
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