GUILTY Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #220

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Whoops. Appelate Judges like short to the point precise briefs per Google. Anybody believe Baldwin has his hands in this? The length is giving off Franks memo vibes.
It’s anyone’s guess, really. I feel the content within Baldwin’s fiction is likely their only Hail Mary, barring they dig something up we all missed regarding the original trial. Those who often label themselves as "critical thinkers" will likely feel otherwise.

He can carry as many bibles as a short man is able, but no one can get him off of that bridge at that critical point in time. Not even his God.

JMO
 
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MOO if your argument is so convoluted it cannot be parsed down to 24 thousand words you may be in trouble 🫤
Let them back in tractor trailers full of briefings, straight from Andy’s delusional fantasies - if he can spare the all-important family time & has recovered from his assured writer’s cramp after filing his 50+ page complaint against NM.

Evidently Andy couldn’t argue the facts, so he made up his own. Ready for this to get some traction & see what this team tries to raise. Something tells me it’s probably not going to impress many people other than the "critical thinkers".

MOO
 
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Was RA indirectly blaming the "weird" girls for the murders, of course without revealing himself? Did he think, when his wife would learn of the murders, she would suspect the "weird/odd" girls, one even with "black" hair (like a witch??) and would tell others? Then the first distraction would already be in place; how convenient for him, the evil double murderer.

I have always believed (since the crime scene illustrations were shown from those attending the trial) that the branches and sticks were placed on the girls in a way to conceal the girls from across the creek. While discussing this case elsewhere the other day someone replied to me (who said she was a witch) saying that the sticks meant something. Well what you mentioned about the girl with black hair/witch popped into my head and just for the heck of it I Googled "witch sticks". The first thing that popped up was the sticks formation from the movie, "The Blair Witch Project". There was a Blair Witch movie called, "Blair Witch", that came out in late 2016. When you look at LE's illustration of the sticks at the base of the girls that was on top of Libby's blood, I think the stick formation looks kind of similar. Someone told me they thought they looked nothing like it though.

I just thought it was interesting that Richard Allen mentioned to his wife (which she said was not like him) that the girl with the long black hair and the girls she was with were "weird" so he decided to leave.
That got me thinking did Richard Allen arrange some of the sticks at the crime scene in a way to make it look ritualistic like a witch had committed this crime? Did he try to set up the girl with the black hair (RV) who could possibly identify him?

He mentioned this black haired girl and the two other girls to Officer Dan Dulin as well.
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I have always believed (since the crime scene illustrations were shown from those attending the trial) that the branches and sticks were placed on the girls in a way to conceal the girls from across the creek. While discussing this case elsewhere the other day someone replied to me (who said she was a witch) saying that the sticks meant something. Well what you mentioned about the girl with black hair/witch popped into my head and just for the heck of it I Googled "witch sticks". The first thing that popped up was the sticks formation from the movie, "The Blair Witch Project". There was a Blair Witch movie called, "Blair Witch", that came out in late 2016. When you look at LE's illustration of the sticks at the base of the girls that was on top of Libby's blood, I think the stick formation looks kind of similar. Someone told me they thought they looked nothing like it though.

I just thought it was interesting that Richard Allen mentioned to his wife (which she said was not like him) that the girl with the long black hair and the girls she was with were "weird" so he decided to leave.
That got me thinking did Richard Allen arrange some of the sticks at the crime scene in a way to make it look ritualistic like a witch had committed this crime? Did he try to set up the girl with the black hair (RV) who could possibly identify him?

He mentioned this black haired girl and the two other girls to Officer Dan Dulin as well.
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Sorry guys if this post of mine offended anyone. I would never want to dishonor Libby and Abby in anyway.

I also apologize if this post seemed off the wall. Remember me mentioning "Twilight Zone" related discussions elsewhere? Yeah, this would fall into that category.

The reason I thought this could be something is because we know that there was definitely talk of "signatures" left at the crime scene in the very early days of the investigation. We know RA mentioned three girls to his wife that he said were "weird" and that one had long black hair. RA mentioned three girls in his self-reported tip on February 16, 2017. RA mentioned three girls, one with long black hair to Dan Dulin on February 18, 2017. RA talked about the three girls to Mullin and Liggett on October 13, 2022 and said that they "obviously stood out." Another thing to consider is his attorney's (especially Baldwin) have made so much noise about the sticks and there placement. It makes me wonder if RA mentioned to him that he manipulated some of the sticks in a way to try to throw off LE. Also, at trial, RA shook his head when a witness mentioned the sticks being for concealment. Although I realize that he was probably coached by his attorney's to do this.

Back when the girls were first discovered, it is reasonable to see why the investigators were confused by the placement of the sticks because they had no idea at the time that Richard Allen had seen Brad Weber driving his van on the road to his house.
As you can see the biggest branches go down the left sides of the girls' bodies.

From my understanding, the creek is to the right of the huge tree by Libby. At least that is where the people who attended the trial placed the creek in their illustrations of it during the trial.

Having researched where that big "V" shaped tree by Libby actually is, it appears the creek would be just below their bodies and then travel around to the right of that tree. People standing at the edge of the opposite side of the creek wouldn't be able to see them because on the side of the creek they were found it was substantially elevated from that vantage point. From the vantage point of Brad Weber's driveway the girls left sides of their bodies would be lying catty-cornered and would mostly be hidden by the huge tree to the right of Libby. The long branch that was placed on Libby's left arm that ran from the top of her head to well below the bottom of her feet would also be concealing both girls from Weber's driveway.

I haven't seen an actual up-close picture of the sticks at the base of the girls but looking at one picture from afar it doesn't really appear like the small bottom right stick forms a complete X. It looks like it terminates when it touches the other small stick to the left. Having looked at LE's diagram again (above) it also appears to terminate at the same spot. So who knows? Someone just got me thinking about the sticks at the base of the girls laying on the blood when someone asked what those particular sticks meant since they didn't appear to have been placed for concealment. The only thing I could think of at the time is that RA had gathered a piles of sticks in that area to place on the girls and those few were just left overs.

So, I will end this post by saying that I believe that the purpose of all of the sticks that RA placed ON the girls were for concealment. I think the main reason he concealed them the way he did was just to buy him time to get back to his car at the CPS building and out of the immediate area before someone could discover what he had done to the girls. I think he wanted to make sure that no one driving on that road (which he may have not known was someone's private driveway) wouldn't be able to see the girls. Libby had very pale skin and she was completely nude.

I would really like to hear all of you guy's opinions on the stick placements at the crime scene.
 
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