AL AL - Danniella Vian, 24, Mobile, 17 Jul 2018 #2

[AtticusFitz]

Right now I am leaning towards a thought by @otto earlier. By all appearance, DNV seemed to be getting her life together, she seemed happy, excited about her new car so much that she went out to celebrate. I have had many cars and although I am happy for my new car, being at a dealer is exhausting and I would rather enjoy a nap. She was beginning to see herself having more custody of her child and was making plans to make that happen. Who had something to gain with DNV disappearing? I am not discounting a stranger or someone that DNV only knows of but does not have any friendship or relationship with as we all know it is very possible but DNV and the car missing makes me think the person wanted it to look like DNV left on her own.

Been trying to think of other individuals that might have been able to track DNV using lojack.

I wondered who might have installed the system as Pearl Motors doesn't do repairs or have a repair shop as part of their business according to their website. But maybe Pearl does install its own Lojacks? I don't know. One of the compliants I had read about Pearl mentioned that Pearl uses an area shop to work on their cars. Does anyone local know who this local shop might be?

Based on google maps the closest one I found to Pearl (diagonally across the street) is:

Walker's Automotive Repair
3256 Cottage Hill Rd, Mobile, AL 36606
MV7G+P9 Mobile, Alabama
(251) 656-0711

Does anyone know anything about this business or have any ideas on where Pearl might send its cars for repairs?

 

[AtticusFitz]

Been trying to think of other individuals that might have been able to track DNV using lojack.

I wondered who might have installed the system as Pearl Motors doesn't do repairs or have a repair shop as part of their business according to their website. But maybe Pearl does install its own Lojacks? I don't know. One of the compliants I had read about Pearl mentioned that Pearl uses an area shop to work on their cars. Does anyone local know who this local shop might be?

Based on google maps the closest one I found to Pearl (diagonally across the street) is:

Walker's Automotive Repair
3256 Cottage Hill Rd, Mobile, AL 36606
MV7G+P9 Mobile, Alabama
(251) 656-0711

Does anyone know anything about this business or have any ideas on where Pearl might send its cars for repairs?

Here is the complaint where Pearl states they don't do repairs and refers this poor person to shop behind their location.
From the BBB website:
Pearl Motors, Inc. Response
09/02/2016


Ms ***** purchased a 2007 jeep patriot from Pearl Motors on 10/18/2013. that was 2 years and 11 months ago and our warranty is 50/50 for 30 days or 1000 miles which ever comes first. ms ***** asked us to help repair the vehicle and add it to her account because she couldnt afford to pay for it out of pocket. Pearl Motors is not a repair shop and doesnt own one. a independent repair shop is located behind our office. they worked on the vehicle and the following is a statement from them regarding the repairs... on 8/10/16 replaced fuel pump. ms ***** brought it back about a week later with water in the fuel. got most of it out and recommended fuel treatment and 89 octane gas-no charge. 8/25/16 ms ***** came in with water in tank again. water had damaged fuel pump. replaced fuel pump under warranty. water and trash had clogged injectors. replaced 4 injectors and added a filter to protect new injectors. cleaned tank and lines. once again recommended fuel treatment & high octane fuel. ms ***** came in again later with power problem to fuel pump. advised her to take it to the dealer. Pearl Motors further response: it appears something is going on that only the dealer can figure out. customer was advised to take it to the dealer. however, she didnt want to hear that. she wants another vehicle. we have done what we can to help her but she needs to take it to the dealer.


Customer Response
09/07/2016


(The consumer indicated he/she DID NOT accept the response from the business.) In the response and my defense of myself Pearl Motors never told me I could pay the mechanic that's located in the same parking lot of them that I could pay him directly. They just told me this after the 3 supposed repair. That still didn't fix my car the thing is they mentioned that water was in my tank twice but the mechanic they use that's in the same lot as them only told me about water in my tank once not twice. They are liars they also knew my truck wasn't repaired so why am I stuck with more fees? That have been added for a botched repair. All the money I've spent with this within the last month I could've taken it to get diagnosed. For the prices they're railroading me to pay. I was also told by the mechanic the last time I was there was a little trash in my tank and that wouldn't make it act like it has been acting then after all the money that's now owed by me for gestamations. I'm still stuck with a bad running truck. The last time also when I was there the mechanic finally admits he don't know what it could be but I'm still stuck with the fees associated with the supposed repair.

 

[otto]

How are we all still feeling about JT? Could he have met up with Danniella at the Shell station? IMO, that should be on her phone. If car #3 was someone she knew, she most likely contacted them before she lost her phone. Where does JT live in relation to the Shell station?

Accuser: Theodore suspect "raped, beat and held me against my will for 3 1/2 weeks"

Regarding TT's cousin, this is where police searched. Danniella had been to the property, but they did not find Danni or her car on the property.

 

[Nerissa]

Spartygirl- yep DW doesn't add up

Only DW knew something was wrong (aside from perpetrators, that speaks volumes)but distances himself.

Why does he even have her phone in the first place? By his own account: because she didn't show up!
It's close to midnight, DNV should be right behind- last you saw her she's in a closed, dark Shell station in a bad part of town- oh yeah, nothing to worry about at all!
No reason to alert anyone....just make it all sound reasonable
No reason to back to the Shell station

He distanced himself from the get go - he never went back to that Shell station & he ditched the car he was driving that night.

Frankly starting to think that when he went back to Dublins he hoped to get the phone & dispose of it. Unfortunately staff saw him looking for it in the parking lot (why didn't he go in first, ask, if they don't have: then you got to start looking in a parking lot for it at midnight, you'd think he'd go in first- he didn't because he wanted to get it anonymously)

Well now he's stuck red handed with this phone

Somehow he has access even though it's passcode protected....

Next morning despite fact DNV went missing night before near midnight in bad part of town- he doesn't give any impression of being worried....

I understand LE did get that rental car- 3-4 + days later : would have been cleaned & maybe used again already......

 

[Nerissa]

Does DW know JT?

 

[otto]

Does anyone have an idea for motive?? Maybe that will provide us some new avenues to explore. Why would someone want DNV gone? Who would gain from her disappearing? I just really don't understand what's going on here. Why aren't we hearing anything from LE anymore??? Ugh I'm just frustrated. How and why does DNV disappear without a trace

That's an interesting question! For me, there are two points that stand out:

• who has motive to want Danni to disappear
• who knew that the GPS had to be disabled before leaving the Shell station

 

[Mauge]

After just doing a search it seems like the most common place is under the steering column. Especially if its the type that is connected to the starter that allows the dealership to prevent the car from cranking (I know several local lots that do that here) as well as transmitting the last location of the vehicle before it stopped moving. It was very easy to find step by step instructions on how to detach the device (even going as far to suggest doing so in a remote spot). Most of the devices have motion sensors and once the vehicle is stopped for so long it goes to "sleep". Once it detects the vehicle moving the location is refreshed every few minutes. If someone had prior knowledge of the device installed or was just prepared in case there was a device installed knowing it was purchased at a "buy here, pay here" lot and had done a quick search it doesn't seem like it would be that hard to do or take that long.

Here is a video showing a dealer GPS device. Easy enough to disconnect.

So i guess we can take it as a fact that whoever disabled the lojack KNEW it was there. I thought there could have been a visible, hard to miss antenna or something indicating the existence of a tracking device.

 

[Lulajo]

We all know TT has had some problems with LE related to drugs and other illegal activities. Is it possible DNV was threatened by drug dealers associated with TT because she knew identities and could be called upon to testify? My thought is yes... is it also possible that she got out of dodge because of those threats, or was told to disappear or else? Again, my thought is yes. Just a theory... she intentionally leaves her phone at Dublin’s so she cannot be tracked, is on the run on I65 but DW is ahead of her so she is concerned he knows she is following and she flashes lights to alert him phone is missing And convinced him to go back with her to retrieve the phone to throw him off her track. He leaves but she sticks around and Car 3 pulls in almost immediately. Doesn’t appear she is concerned by car 3 pulling into parking lot of a closed business after dark. Perhaps she knew the occupants of Car 3. Car 3 May have been following her to meet some place to disable gps so she could leave. As no one seems to see any people on the video outside of their vehicles at Shell, did the occupant(s) of Car 3 give her instructions to disable gps which she followed while sitting in the car? They both pull out of Shell and she is vanishes.

 

[otto]

Right now I am leaning towards a thought by @otto earlier. By all appearance, DNV seemed to be getting her life together, she seemed happy, excited about her new car so much that she went out to celebrate. I have had many cars and although I am happy for my new car, being at a dealer is exhausting and I would rather enjoy a nap. She was beginning to see herself having more custody of her child and was making plans to make that happen. Who had something to gain with DNV disappearing? I am not discounting a stranger or someone that DNV only knows of but does not have any friendship or relationship with as we all know it is very possible but DNV and the car missing makes me think the person wanted it to look like DNV left on her own.

It is curious. There are two points to consider with the incident at the Shell station: the car, and Danniella. Both are missing.

If the goal was the car, Danniella should have been left at the Shell station - alive or not. If the goal was Danniella, the car should have been left at the Shell station. The fact that both are missing suggests to me that this was about making both Danniella and car disappear - which opens the question of why both?

The only answer I can think of is that someone wanted the world to believe that Danniella left voluntarily in the car she bought that day.

A critical point, in my opinion, is that if DW did not have a plan to meet Danni at the Dublin 20 minutes after leaving the Shell station, it would be more believable that she skipped town. However, she would not skip town without her phone, and DW is the critical person who made everyone aware of the fact that she did not have her phone.

DW sounded the alert that Danniella missed an appointment 20 minutes after leaving the Shell station, and that she did not have her phone. He knew that she was in the process of retrieving her phone when she was intercepted. Also, DW alerted the family that something was amiss at 7:30AM on July 18.

I can't think of any good reason to suggest that DW had anything to do with her disappearance.

 

[otto]

Does DW know JT?

Regarding TT's cousin:

"Last week police searched a property near Wigfield Road and Travis Road. Last Thursday Mobile Police had information that led them to believe the property was linked to the Danniella Vian investigation. That was based on information from the victim in this case. Apparently, the search turned up no connection to the missing mom."​

Man arrested after search linked to Vian case expected in court

"It was later revealed that Dykes was related to Vian’s ex-boyfriend, and family members told Fox 10 reports that [Danniella] had been to the property in the past."​

Victim says Theodore man imprisoned her for weeks - Lagniappe Mobile

 

[Lulajo]

Not saying he had anything to do with it. Saying she could have been trying to sidetrack him so he would not
See her heading East or West on I10. And, if she wanted to disappear and not be tracked, she most certainly would not take her cell phone with her when she skipped town. Phones can be tracked. If this scenario were to be what occurred, it would explain DW’s statement that he did not know why she was following him. She may not have been following him... they could have unintentionally been on the same route but going to different places. And yes, he notified JDT the next morning, some 8 hours later, and she could have been in Texas by then...

 

[ChiCubs2016]

It is curious. There are two pointed to consider with the incident at the Shell station: the car, and Danniella. Both are missing.

If the goal was the car, Danniella should have been left at the Shell station - alive or not. If the goal was Danniella, the car should have been left at the Shell station. The fact that both are missing suggests to me that this was about making both Danniella and car disappear - which opens the question of why both?

The only answer I can think of is that someone wanted the world to believe that Danniella left voluntarily in the car she bought that day.

A critical point, in my opinion, is that if DW did not have a plan to meet Danni at the Dublin 20 minutes after leaving the Shell station, it would be more believable that she skipped town. However, she would not skip town without her phone, and DW is the critical person who made everyone aware of the fact that she did not have her phone.

DW sounded the alert that Danniella missed an appointment 20 minutes after leaving the Shell station, and that she did not have her phone. He knew that she was in the process of retrieving her phone when she was intercepted. Also, DW alerted the family that something was amiss at 7:30AM on July 18.

I can't think of any good reason to suggest that he had anything to do with her disappearance.

I agree @otto. You definitely have a flare for narrowing and filtering information so it is easier to follow. The work you do on WS is amazing. I have read and reread your post and each time they become clearer.

Originally I really thought DW was involved but having read your very thorough thoughts I am moving away from that theory. You are correct, DW was the only one trying to alert folks to DNV being missing. Maybe he could have gone back to the Shell station to look for her but who knows how anyone would react to this. I am a female and no doubt would have called 911 (exaggerated) when she did not arrive at Dublins but my husband probably would have gone home and went to bed thinking he would give the phone back later. He willing went to the LE to tell his story. He made several calls to alert folks. I gave a little grief because he did not go to PF Changs to drop off the phone but maybe he thought there was more going on and just leaving it there would not be helpful.

I believe both the car and DNV being missing is a critical piece of information.

 

[otto]

We all know TT has had some problems with LE related to drugs and other illegal activities. Is it possible DNV was threatened by drug dealers associated with TT because she knew identities and could be called upon to testify? My thought is yes... is it also possible that she got out of dodge because of those threats, or was told to disappear or else? Again, my thought is yes. Just a theory... she intentionally leaves her phone at Dublin’s so she cannot be tracked, is on the run on I65 but DW is ahead of her so she is concerned he knows she is following and she flashes lights to alert him phone is missing And convinced him to go back with her to retrieve the phone to throw him off her track. He leaves but she sticks around and Car 3 pulls in almost immediately. Doesn’t appear she is concerned by car 3 pulling into parking lot of a closed business after dark. Perhaps she knew the occupants of Car 3. Car 3 May have been following her to meet some place to disable gps so she could leave. As no one seems to see any people on the video outside of their vehicles at Shell, did the occupant(s) of Car 3 give her instructions to disable gps which she followed while sitting in the car? They both pull out of Shell and she is vanishes.

I didn't know that TT had drug problems.

Why would Danniella choose to "get out of dodge" without her phone or her daughter? Why wouldn't she go to the police and report that she was threatened by crazed drug people?

 

[Keyedin]

We all know TT has had some problems with LE related to drugs and other illegal activities. Is it possible DNV was threatened by drug dealers associated with TT because she knew identities and could be called upon to testify? My thought is yes... is it also possible that she got out of dodge because of those threats, or was told to disappear or else? Again, my thought is yes. Just a theory... she intentionally leaves her phone at Dublin’s so she cannot be tracked, is on the run on I65 but DW is ahead of her so she is concerned he knows she is following and she flashes lights to alert him phone is missing And convinced him to go back with her to retrieve the phone to throw him off her track. He leaves but she sticks around and Car 3 pulls in almost immediately. Doesn’t appear she is concerned by car 3 pulling into parking lot of a closed business after dark. Perhaps she knew the occupants of Car 3. Car 3 May have been following her to meet some place to disable gps so she could leave. As no one seems to see any people on the video outside of their vehicles at Shell, did the occupant(s) of Car 3 give her instructions to disable gps which she followed while sitting in the car? They both pull out of Shell and she is vanishes.

It is curious. There are two pointed to consider with the incident at the Shell station: the car, and Danniella. Both are missing.

If the goal was the car, Danniella should have been left at the Shell station - alive or not. If the goal was Danniella, the car should have been left at the Shell station. The fact that both are missing suggests to me that this was about making both Danniella and car disappear - which opens the question of why both?

The only answer I can think of is that someone wanted the world to believe that Danniella left voluntarily in the car she bought that day.

A critical point, in my opinion, is that if DW did not have a plan to meet Danni at the Dublin 20 minutes after leaving the Shell station, it would be more believable that she skipped town. However, she would not skip town without her phone, and DW is the critical person who made everyone aware of the fact that she did not have her phone.

DW sounded the alert that Danniella missed an appointment 20 minutes after leaving the Shell station, and that she did not have her phone. He knew that she was in the process of retrieving her phone when she was intercepted. Also, DW alerted the family that something was amiss at 7:30AM on July 18.

I can't think of any good reason to suggest that he had anything to do with her disappearance.

I agree with both of these statements. The more I think about it, the more I lean towards maybe DW really didn't have anything to do with it. Now, I think he did know her prior to that night, it's been said he was a regular where she worked. Maybe they had a fling or affair, or maybe not at at all. Either way, he's supposed to be a loving father and boyfriend/husband, a respectable businessman, and all around good guy. Fling or not, he stands to lose a lot and maybe that's why he's steered clear of the situation. He didn't want it coming out that he had been seeing someone or was with a single girl on the side, much less that he was the last person to have seen her. Or maybe he wasn't a regular where he worked- maybe it was just convenient to pin it on him because he literally was the last person to have seen her.

Either he knew something shady happened or he thought she'd blown him off and would try to get her phone later. If it was the latter, maybe something about his conversation with TT/JDT made him feel like something wasn't right. If we look at the timeline- He called JDT at 7:30 AM on 7/18- downplayed it or not depending on whether the story about him being a regular is true. After 7:30, but before 12- he calls back to tell her TT called and he was concerned about DV. Comments about him not having taken the phone to PF Changs as instructed have floated around, but depending on what time he called her the 2nd time- PF Changs doesn't even open until 11, so he couldn't have taken it even if he wanted to until at least then. So, was something said that caused him to be concerned?

Again- not pointing the finger at anybody, just attempting to look at it from a different angle.

 

[MimosaMornings]

If you had somebody else’s phone - would you answer incoming calls?

 

[Keyedin]

I didn't know that TT had drug problems.

Why would Danniella choose to "get out of dodge" without her phone or her daughter? Why wouldn't she go to the police and report that she was threatened by crazed drug people?

If at some point she'd been threatened....do you escape and let it cool down or stick around? I guess it would depend on how serious you thought the person was.

 

[otto]

Spartygirl- yep DW doesn't add up

Only DW knew something was wrong (aside from perpetrators, that speaks volumes)but distances himself.

Why does he even have her phone in the first place? By his own account: because she didn't show up!
It's close to midnight, DNV should be right behind- last you saw her she's in a closed, dark Shell station in a bad part of town- oh yeah, nothing to worry about at all!
No reason to alert anyone....just make it all sound reasonable
No reason to back to the Shell station

He distanced himself from the get go - he never went back to that Shell station & he ditched the car he was driving that night.

Frankly starting to think that when he went back to Dublins he hoped to get the phone & dispose of it. Unfortunately staff saw him looking for it in the parking lot (why didn't he go in first, ask, if they don't have: then you got to start looking in a parking lot for it at midnight, you'd think he'd go in first- he didn't because he wanted to get it anonymously)

Well now he's stuck red handed with this phone

Somehow he has access even though it's passcode protected....

Next morning despite fact DNV went missing night before near midnight in bad part of town- he doesn't give any impression of being worried....

I understand LE did get that rental car- 3-4 + days later : would have been cleaned & maybe used again already......

We know that DW had the phone only because he and Danniella planned to look for it at The Dublin at 11:30PM on July 17. Danniella was a no-show.

DW did not "ditch" the car he was driving on July 17. He returned the car to the rental agency.

DW had no intention of disposing of the phone. In reality, he did everything he could to locate Danniella to return the phone, and, when that failed, he contacted Danniella's family at 7:30AM on July 18.

DW contacted Danniella's family the morning after she missed an appointment at The Dublin at 11:30PM. He wanted to return the phone to the family, but the family did not seem concerned about the fact that she did not have her phone, or that she did not make the appointment the previous evening at the Dublin.

DW is the one person who made sure that Danniella's family was aware of the fact that he had her phone, that she did not arrive at The Dublin at 11:30PM as planned, and that something might have happened to Danniella.

 

[Keyedin]

If you had somebody else’s phone - would you answer incoming calls?

Depends on how they came in- only call I can tell he answered was TT. Maybe he thought it was actually DV that was calling from someone else's phone? If his story is correct and he understood they were both going back to Dublins to look for the phone only she didn't show up, it's likely that he thought she was calling from someone else's phone.

ETA: This leads me to believe he spoke to TT and JDT before 11. If PF Changs doesn't open until 11 and TT called before it opened, it is another reason to have answered- DV was trying to pick-up her phone before her shift. Someone doesn't have their phone and doesn't know another number to call, they call their own phone and hopes someone answers. I've lost my phone before and tried to call it.

 

[ChiCubs2016]

If you had somebody else’s phone - would you answer incoming calls?

I might if I was trying to get the phone back to the person. I found a phone once and sent a text to the last person the owner sent a text to telling them I found the phone and could they let the person know and get back to me. I did not give them my phone number and used the person's phone to communicate. Fortunately, the owner was at Starbucks right next to the Market where I was shopping. And as I write this I have decided yes most definitely I would have answered the phone.

 

[otto]

I agree @otto. You definitely have a flare for narrowing and filtering information so it is easier to follow. The work you do on WS is amazing. I have read and reread your post and each time they become clearer.

Originally I really thought DW was involved but having read your very thorough thoughts I am moving away from that theory. You are correct, DW was the only one trying to alert folks to DNV being missing. Maybe he could have gone back to the Shell station to look for her but who knows how anyone would react to this. I am a female and no doubt would have called 911 (exaggerated) when she did not arrive at Dublins but my husband probably would have gone home and went to bed thinking he would give the phone back later. He willing went to the LE to tell his story. He made several calls to alert folks. I gave a little grief because he did not go to PF Changs to drop off the phone but maybe he thought there was more going on and just leaving it there would not be helpful.

I believe both the car and DNV being missing is a critical piece of information.

Thank you! Regarding DW delivering Danniella's phone to a restaurant, imagine that you misplace your phone. A friend calls your family memberat 7:30AM to report that you and your phone are separated, that you missed an appointment to retrieve the phone at 11:30PM and that you are unreachable.

What does your family member do: tell the friend to take your phone to a restaurant where you work, tell your friend to drop it off at your house, ask your friend how to pick up your phone ASAP?