Are wedding bells ringing?

[Clearly Confused]

I have 3 ideas.

• The wedding
• The relationship
• The decision making

It sounds like she isn't married (probably)
It sounds like they are still together
So my guess is that she has made her decision and nothing we (or anyone else) say will make a difference.

Thanks. Wish somebody would have warned me about my ex before I married him.

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

I couldn't imagine putting something on my wedding registry for other family members but then again I couldn't imagine marrying a man who is suspected in killing his wife either...go figure.

Either it's the tackiest wedding registry request ever (even outdoing the gift cards) by being for another family member or even if it were for a baby they're expecting - who puts that on a wedding registry??? Maybe this item was placed on the registry to give all of us something to speculate about.

ETA: After that weird addition to their registry (which I personally think is bogus - I guess time will tell), I checked Vanessa's myspace and the knot page. Her myspace has her now listed as "focused" and there's a message on the knot that's implying that the wedding already happened. I think that these things are definitely for us WS'ers:

http://weddings.theknot.com/pwp/view/co_guestbook.aspx?coupleid=10243855507407

from: J. 7/3/2008Sorry we couldn't make it. How was it? Show us some pictures!

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

Welcome wherego. I too am thrilled to see new interest and new questions on this case.

About the soccer game, I thought it was somewhere in this forum that Raven's attendance at the soccer game was verified by LE. Maybe in that press release from LE looking for anyone with information.

 

[RainbowsAndGumdrops]

I think the baby items are posted on the registry for websleuthers. I think they are playing games with us, but I believe it is probably true. They have made a decision to be together. I believe Vanessa has asked me to "Get over it" and so I will respect that and not try to disuade her. Vanessa has her free agency and if she wants to be with Raven, I won't force her to change her mind.

I am sad for Vanessa, because she seems like a good person. I just wish she fell in love with someone else.

I guess time will tell if there is a baby. That could explain her being "focused" at this time on myspace.

 

[Clearly Confused]

Either it's the tackiest wedding registry request ever (even outdoing the gift cards) by being for another family member or even if it were for a baby they're expecting - who puts that on a wedding registry??? Maybe this item was placed on the registry to give all of us something to speculate about.

ETA: After that weird addition to their registry (which I personally think is bogus - I guess time will tell), I checked Vanessa's myspace and the knot page. Her myspace has her now listed as "focused" and there's a message on the knot that's implying that the wedding already happened. I think that these things are definitely for us WS'ers:

http://weddings.theknot.com/pwp/view/co_guestbook.aspx?coupleid=10243855507407

from: J. 7/3/2008Sorry we couldn't make it. How was it? Show us some pictures!

I agree...she is posting to us.

I also heard the wedding is at the end of Aug and not in Sept. Maybe she is afraid we will show up...lol...the post sorry we couldn't make it...fake.

 

[Clearly Confused]

I think the baby items are posted on the registry for websleuthers. I think they are playing games with us, but I believe it is probably true. They have made a decision to be together. I believe Vanessa has asked me to "Get over it" and so I will respect that and not try to disuade her. Vanessa has her free agency and if she wants to be with Raven, I won't force her to change her mind.

I am sad for Vanessa, because she seems like a good person. I just wish she fell in love with someone else.

I guess time will tell if there is a baby. That could explain her being "focused" at this time on myspace.

I wouldn't expect any of us here to change her mind..I know I wouldn't but I would seriously have to think about what the news reported about my future husband and his felony conviction.

I am not sad for her...she is going in with her eyes wide open. I feel sorry for her daughter and any future children she may have with him.

 

[terminatrixator]

I think the baby items are posted on the registry for websleuthers. I think they are playing games with us, but I believe it is probably true. They have made a decision to be together. I believe Vanessa has asked me to "Get over it" and so I will respect that and not try to disuade her. Vanessa has her free agency and if she wants to be with Raven, I won't force her to change her mind.

I am sad for Vanessa, because she seems like a good person. I just wish she fell in love with someone else.

I guess time will tell if there is a baby. That could explain her being "focused" at this time on myspace.

Vanessa seems a little out there like Karen, and some of us know how much Karen cared for her daughter's safety.

Maybe Vanessa is what Raven had to resort to, because other's care enough about their safety, their family and their children. There are women that marry murderers while in Jail and fall in love with bad boys that are in prison. She may be one of those that likes that excitement. It's sad but now she brought her daughter into it.

Her interests are obviously coming before her child, so with that said, all we can do is pray for her child and hope for the best.

 

[BirdHunter]

And at some point you just have to tell yourself that she has been warned. She has made up her mind. She will have to deal with her decision. Of course, if something happens to her or her daughter, it will still make you feel like crap.

 

[JustJax]

I think the baby items are posted on the registry for websleuthers. I think they are playing games with us, .

If that is the case...how disgusting on both thier parts...playing games, joking/baiting in a brutal murder case in which you are personally connected to/and or a person of interest in said case. Just SICK :furious:

 

[RainbowsAndGumdrops]

I agree with you Birdhunter.

 

[BirdHunter]

If that is the case...how disgusting on both thier parts...playing games, joking/baiting in a brutal murder case in which you are personally connected to/and or a person of interest in said case. Just SICK :furious:

Sick, but not unexpected, knowing the Raven I know.

 

[Clearly Confused]

If that is the case...how disgusting on both thier parts...playing games, joking/baiting in a brutal murder case in which you are personally connected to/and or a person of interest in said case. Just SICK :furious:

It's all fun and games until it happens to her.

 

[LTUlegal]

It's all fun and games until it happens to her.

Exactly.

 

[terminatrixator]

If that is the case...how disgusting on both thier parts...playing games, joking/baiting in a brutal murder case in which you are personally connected to/and or a person of interest in said case. Just SICK :furious:

I agree with you Spanky and it's great to see you again.

I saw the baby toys and it frustrates me because Janet was murdered and carrying a child at the time. So if she's playing a joke it's not funny because in the end Janet and her unborn child are dead, Kaiden lost his Mommy and a sibling.

This is not a game it's serious people are dead, people lost their loved ones and this is not fun.

And it is true, if something happened to Vanessa or her child, I would feel horrible, even though she was warned.

 

[JustJax]

I agree with you Spanky and it's great to see you again.

I saw the baby toys and it frustrates me because Janet was murdered and carrying a child at the time. So if she's playing a joke it's not funny because in the end Janet and her unborn child are dead, Kaiden lost his Mommy and a sibling.

This is not a game it's serious people are dead, people lost their loved ones and this is not fun.

And it is true, if something happened to Vanessa or her child, I would feel horrible, even though she was warned.

Thanks Term, I do try to check back on a regular basis.
At times I feel dread for Vanessa and her child, but then my thoughts go to remembering that there are many narcissistic/sociopathic women in this world, as well as women who are drawn to criminals and or convicts...with no thought about the crimes they commited, the impact on the vicims lives, or the danger they may be putting themselves or their families in.
With that said, if there is a baiting game going on, it's a vile game to be playing. The world wide web can be a powerfull weapon, words cutting like a knife so to speak, with jabs and digs aimed at the family, friends, and supporters of the two peopole who were savagely murdered...Janet Marie and her unborn child.

 

[terminatrixator]

Thanks Term, I do try to check back on a regular basis.
At times I feel dread for Vanessa and her child, but then my thoughts go to remembering that there are many narcissistic/sociopathic women in this world, as well as women who are drawn to criminals and or convicts...with no thought about the crimes they commited, the impact on the vicims lives, or the danger they may be putting themselves or their families in.
With that said, if there is a baiting game going on, it's a vile game to be playing. The world wide web can be a powerfull weapon, words cutting like a knife so to speak, with jabs and digs aimed at the family, friends, and supporters of the two peopole who were savagely murdered...Janet Marie and her unborn child.

Spanky, you said things so very well here. You have a way of seeing things from the perspective of a victim and a victim's family that puts a lot of heart into the real pain of the matter and that is something that many of us here have dealt with also and a few of us here feel so deeply. It is what has brought so many people together on these forums.

 

[JustJax]

I don't know Term, just seems to me with the comments and the items on the regestries, like they are victimizing Janet, her children and her grieving family and friends all over again. I can't imagine how that feels and my heart still goes out to them every day.

 

[ewwwinteresting]

Ya know...that message on their wedding site..."GET OVER IT GUYS & IT'S OVER...has been bugging me. What is over? We know she isn't referring to the wedding because it didn't happen yet or her and Raven because they are still together so what is the IT in her statement? Any suggestions?[/quote]


I'm wondering if Raven posted it and he is talking about the murder?

 

[L L & S]

Wow, I didn't go there in my head at all, but it sure sounds like something the Raven I've gotten to know.

 

[Clearly Confused]

Ya know...that message on their wedding site..."GET OVER IT GUYS & IT'S OVER...has been bugging me. What is over? We know she isn't referring to the wedding because it didn't happen yet or her and Raven because they are still together so what is the IT in her statement? Any suggestions?

I'm wondering if Raven posted it and he is talking about the murder?[/quote]

That gave me the chills.