ARUBA - Robyn Gardner, 35, Maryland woman missing in Aruba, 2 Aug 2011 - #10

[HauntsForHope]

Alot of other really strange things happened to Amys Family aboard that cruise ship and after she dissapeared. Whats interesting is two women saw Yellow and Amy go up to the disco with the lights on and music playing..He left and retreived a drink and 10 minutes later he came out alone with a empty glass..Lights went out,music was off and Amy was gone.

Kinda reminds me of the witnesses who said RG looked woozy at the cafe. As you know it was reported that GG stated that she took sleeping pills and was drinking. I cant help but wonder if a date rape drug was involved? Certainly would have made things easier for him...IMO

GG had full control of her drinking glass and what was going into it....we see him on video come and go from the restaurant, cups in hand, to the car.

 

[HauntsForHope]

Supposedly the car was driving around for 45 minutes during that crucial time period and leaving just before GG arrived so I think thats possible.IMO

Sadly according to taco Stein they can't locate who rented the vehicle..So I suppose we will never know? How many White Hyundai Getz's could have possible been rented in Aruba on that day??

Oh, the accomplice in a rental... hmm not local. That supports someone coming to pick her up for transport.

 

[neesaki]

Alot of other really strange things happened to Amys Family aboard that cruise ship and after she dissapeared. Whats interesting is two women saw Yellow and Amy go up to the disco with the lights on and music playing..He left and retreived a drink and 10 minutes later he came out alone with a empty glass..Lights went out,music was off and Amy was gone.

Kinda reminds me of the witnesses who said RG looked woozy at the cafe. As you know it was reported that GG stated that she took sleeping pills and was drinking. I cant help but wonder if a date rape drug was involved? Certainly would have made things easier for him...IMO

This very thing has occurred to me as well. Tell them Robyn had taken a sleeping pill to cover for her wooziness from the date rape drug, Rohypnol or whichever he chose to use. Or, maybe he just used her own sleeping pills....

 

[HauntsForHope]

"Natalie Holloway could be worth a couple million dollars. Because it's high profile right now, they could be calling in the big clients, somebody who's going to get a thrill out of having sex with Natalee Holloway, who will come in and pay big, big bucks, just for that thrill. To the kidnappers, this is very big business."

http://www.drphil.com/slideshows/slideshow/2924/?id=2924&showID=623

Same could be said for Robyn....

 

[neesaki]

"Natalie Holloway could be worth a couple million dollars. Because it's high profile right now, they could be calling in the big clients, somebody who's going to get a thrill out of having sex with Natalee Holloway, who will come in and pay big, big bucks, just for that thrill. To the kidnappers, this is very big business."

http://www.drphil.com/slideshows/slideshow/2924/?id=2924&showID=623

And since NH has been out of the news lately, maybe Robyn would be the one who is now high profile.

 

[HauntsForHope]

This very thing has occurred to me as well. Tell them Robyn had taken a sleeping pill to cover for her wooziness from the date rape drug, Rohypnol or whichever he chose to use. Or, maybe he just used her own sleeping pills....

Right, and he had the opportunity to spike her drink before they left the restaurant.

 

[HauntsForHope]

And since NH has been out of the news lately, maybe Robyn would be the one who is high profile.

GG even said to one of the ladies he was trying to talk into going to Aruba, that it wouldnt become another 'Natalee Halloway' thing...can you believe it? what a goon...

 

[Blueskies]

GG even said to one of the ladies he was trying to talk into going to Aruba, that it wouldnt become another 'Natalee Halloway' thing...can you believe it? what a goon...

Yeh it sounds like he may have read up on Natalee's case which is scary. It wouldn't suprise me at all if that is where he came up with his motive of using a date rape drug. But to kill her or get her off the island? This just all seems premeditated to me including the dry run the day before..He just doesn't seem the type to plan a premeditated murder if indeed this was all planned..IMO

BTW:Not all the women were blonde that he tried to get to Aruba. Appeared to me the guy was desperate and Robyn was not his first choice as he claims.IMO

 

[neesaki]

GG even said to one of the ladies he was trying to talk into going to Aruba, that it wouldnt become another 'Natalee Halloway' thing...can you believe it? what a goon...

Kind of makes me wonder if he was only the one delivering Robyn from the states to Aruba, not actually the one who orchestrated the whole thing. I know he's known for being a con man, but as you, Lambchop, and others have pointed out, he doesn't seem like the brightest bulb.

 

[katydid23]

Kind of makes me wonder if he was only the one delivering Robyn from the states to Aruba, not actually the one who orchestrated the whole thing. I know he's known for being a con man, but as you, Lambchop, and others have pointed out, he doesn't seem like the brightest bulb.

He might have just been asked to bring someone. It didn't have to be RG, in particular.

 

[neesaki]

Yeh it sounds like he may have read up on Natalee's case which is scary. It wouldn't suprise me at all if that is where he came up with his motive of using a date rape drug. But to kill her or get her off the island? This just all seems premeditated to me including the dry run the day before..He just doesn't seem the type to plan a premeditated murder if indeed this was all planned..IMO

BTW:Not all the women were blonde that he tried to get to Aruba. Appeared to me the guy was desperate and Robyn was not his first choice as he claims.IMO

And think about how bizarre that statement is for him to make to someone he's trying to lure to Aruba, "It's not going to be another Natalee Holloway thing or anything like that "... :waitasec:

Then Robyn, the woman he does take to Aruba, just happens to mysteriously disappear ? Way, way, way too coincidental.

 

[Dushi]

Alot of other really strange things happened to Amys Family aboard that cruise ship and after she dissapeared. Whats interesting is two women saw Yellow and Amy go up to the disco with the lights on and music playing..He left and retreived a drink and 10 minutes later he came out alone with a empty glass..Lights went out,music was off and Amy was gone.

Kinda reminds me of the witnesses who said RG looked woozy at the cafe. As you know it was reported that GG stated that she took sleeping pills and was drinking. I cant help but wonder if a date rape drug was involved? Certainly would have made things easier for him...IMO

She had her own sleeping pills
Why bother?

 

[Dushi]

Kind of makes me wonder if he was only the one delivering Robyn from the states to Aruba, not actually the one who orchestrated the whole thing. I know he's known for being a con man, but as you, Lambchop, and others have pointed out, he doesn't seem like the brightest bulb.

Human trafficking happens everywhere
Why did he have to deliver her to Aruba?

 

[Dushi]

I very much appreciate your viewpoint. At this point with no more evidence than has been released in this case, I have to believe there's at least a 50/50 chance that Robyn was trafficked versus murdered. I can't say more than that, until I see more evidence. As far as her tattoo being an issue which has been raised multiple times, how do we know that wherever Robyn was trafficked to would expose her to the type of public where it would matter whether she has or doesn't have this tattoo. IDK, but to have tunnel vision is not going to help anything, so I try not to.

The fact is, there is no evidence that Robyn is deceased. There is no blood evidence, there is no crime scene, there is no body.....

Even ALE seem to concurr with that. The judge released the prime suspect, GG, because he does not believe they have proof that Robyn is dead. Otherwise, why release the prime suspect?
The fact is, according to Aruba justice system, no body = no death = no case. jmo

Maybe she ran away
Maybe she and GG were going to meet somewhere and share the insurance

If you want to look at ALL scenarios, maybe you should look at these as well

 

[neesaki]

Human trafficking happens everywhere
Why did he have to deliver her to Aruba?

Good question. Why was Aruba chosen, maybe because he got the idea from the NH case, or could be he had a contact their or in Colombia and Aruba is very accessible.

 

[neesaki]

Maybe she ran away
Maybe she and GG were going to meet somewhere and share the insurance

If you want to look at ALL scenarios, maybe you should look at these as well

ITA. If memory serves this theory has been proposed and discussed. I don't think it's an impossibility at all.

 

[Dushi]

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[LambChop]

GG expected to get that money ($1.5) from the insurance policy. The agent supposedly stated that GG sounded as if he won the lottery. Didn't he have something around 4 calls into American Express regarding this claim??? He expected her to be found or at the very least he expected LE would rule she died by accidential drowning and was swept out to sea. jmo

 

[LambChop]

Human trafficking happens everywhere
Why did he have to deliver her to Aruba?

Exactly. Look at all the young people who are missing in the US. It would have been much easier for her to have vanished here. But then he could have been charged here. Maybe he felt Aruba was much safer because of what happened with JVS. jmo

 

[Dushi]

GG expected to get that money ($1.5) from the insurance policy. The agent supposedly stated that GG sounded as if he won the lottery. Didn't he have something around 4 calls into American Express regarding this claim??? He expected her to be found or at the very least he expected LE would rule she died by accidential drowning and was swept out to sea. jmo

when looking at all of the questionable things in this case, the insurance is the one thing that stands out as motive, IMO

If GG is responsible for Rgs disappearance, I believe the insurance would be the reason

To collect on insurance, a body would have to be found or he would have a very long wait

By the time Human trafficking was mentioned by GG, he was aware that the body, if there is one, was unlikely to surface
At that point, IMO, all he was doing was taking the focus off of himself and transfering it to someone else ,JMO, or in this case, someplace else, Aruba