Attorney Seeks To Spare Casey Anthony From Death Penalty

[Patty G]

Thank you, Patty. If they're not acknowledging it, then why are they talking about mothers murdering their children? That's what I don't understand. Why bring it up if their stance is that Casey did NOT murder Caylee?

They were talking about other mother's who murdered their children and did not get the death penalty, but life in prison. He mentioned Andrea Yates a Texas mother who drowned all five children was sentenced to life in prison. Susan Smith, the Arkansas mother who pushed her car with her two children inside in a lake, got life in prison

 

[Pondering Mind]

BOMBSHELL TONIGHT!!Somebody better find Cindy and make sure she doesn't have a mental breakdown-she's worked so hard to make us believe her caylee is alive story!
I wonder if she had any idea this was happening! I can't wait for NG tonight!:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:]

Maybe they do know and that's why George was looking off into the woods.

 

[Chilly Willy]

We need a legal person to weigh in on this. Someone?????

I don't think it would be considered an admission of guilt. Only Casey can admit that she's guilty. I think it's merely a tool to try and get the death penalty off the table - IF Casey did it, this is why she shouldn't be sentenced to death.

 

[Jolynna]

WOW.....so are they going for the mental illness defense now? They sure don't seem to be proclaiming her innocence in this piece, huh. I also find it connfusing that they choose to send this at this particular time. It makes her sound guilty.

It definitely does not make her sound like the "mother of the year" Cindy has been describing.

Personally,I am tired of the kind of entitlement afforded "killer moms" as opposed to other murderers. It seems to be assumed that when a "mother" takes her child's life, she must be ill...she suffered abuse...it was an accident. The excuses are stomach turning. (IMO)

I think a woman who kills her baby to "catch a man" is MORE evil than the black widow who kills an old coot for his money. Old coots should KNOW better. Children are innocent.

 

[Mouser]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-casey-anthony-death110508,0,6113475.story

Submitted by defense to prosecution outlining why prosecution should not seek death penalty, in part reads:

"The crime was not cold, calculated and premeditated. In the months leading up to Caylee's disappearance, Anthony's behavior was described by friends and family as "erratic and not entirely rational."

He wrote that filicide – the act of a parent killing a child – is different than other homicides. The underlying reasons why mothers kill are complex and can be divided into various categories. For example, one type is a parent who kills under influence of mental illness. Another type suggests a parent's motive may be to save the child from real or imagined harm.

Juries are more likely to show mothers mercy. He mentioned Andrea Yates – a Texas mother who drowned all five children – was sentenced to life in prison. Susan Smith, the Arkansas mother who pushed her car with her two children inside in a lake, got life in prison."


Is this an acknowledgement of Caylee's murder??

Uh--sure does look like it to me. He's acknowledging it by his qualification that it (filicide) "was not cold, calculated and premeditated".

Definitely appears to be setting the ground work for an insanity / mental illness plea.

 

[Intermezzo]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-casey-anthony-death110508,0,6113475.story

Submitted by defense to prosecution outlining why prosecution should not seek death penalty, in part reads:

"The crime was not cold, calculated and premeditated. In the months leading up to Caylee's disappearance, Anthony's behavior was described by friends and family as "erratic and not entirely rational."
He wrote that filicide – the act of a parent killing a child – is different than other homicides. The underlying reasons why mothers kill are complex and can be divided into various categories. For example, one type is a parent who kills under influence of mental illness. Another type suggests a parent's motive may be to save the child from real or imagined harm.

Juries are more likely to show mothers mercy. He mentioned Andrea Yates – a Texas mother who drowned all five children – was sentenced to life in prison. Susan Smith, the Arkansas mother who pushed her car with her two children inside in a lake, got life in prison."


Is this an acknowledgement of Caylee's murder??

My part in BOLD. Does it seem Baez is going for insanity or mental illness defense?

 

[Recovering-Lurker]

What crime? Defense stance has been Casey has done nothing, Caylee was kidnapped, Caylee is alive.

I'm sooooo confused....

Yeah, WHAT CRIME???:waitasec:

 

[Intermezzo]

Uh--sure does look like it to me. He's acknowledging it by his qualification that it (filicide) "was not cold, calculated and premeditated".

Definitely appears to be setting the ground work for an insanity / mental illness plea.

Sorry, I posted the same thing before I read your post.

 

[sha-sha]

Their job is defend their client, they can start by attempting to get the prosecuter not to pursue the death penalty. They are arguing that cases where the mother killed the child, which is the accusation, don't generally result in a death penalty.

Even the lack of emotion after her child's disappearance and arrest "is not normal," he wrote.

That does not say after her death her behavior was not normal. It says after her disapperance.

Makes sense, but what CRIME are they referring to? They aren't defending her for child neglect anymore, which would be the part where she didn't report Caylee missing.

 

[trac]

I read that snippet a few times - "Anthony's behavior was described by friends and family as "erratic and not entirely rational"

I thought she was said to act normally, everyone that LE interviewed said that she acted like she did any other day

So how was she erratic and not entirely rational?

 

[Patty G]

Is this normal practice for the defense to submit this even before trial?

Yes it is normal.

 

[BeanE]

They were talking about other mother's who murdered their children and did not get the death penalty, but life in prison. He mentioned Andrea Yates a Texas mother who drowned all five children was sentenced to life in prison. Susan Smith, the Arkansas mother who pushed her car with her two children inside in a lake, got life in prison

Yes I know. What I mean is, why are they talking about moms who murdered their children if Casey is not supposed to have done so?

 

[Pondering Mind]

She'll never meet the legal standard of being mentally ill.

I don't think so either, but we all knew that if they were backed into a corner they would try it. Just surprising now, wonder if plea agreements are going on?

 

[Janis396]

Andrea Yates was legally mentally ill. Casey is nowhere near that, I don't care how much "emotional distress" she's had since Caylee's birth.
How distressing it must have been, to have her mother there to care for Caylee and pay all the bills. Boo hoo.

 

[sha-sha]

I read that snippet a few times - "Anthony's behavior was described by friends and family as "erratic and not entirely rational"

I thought she was said to act normally, everyone that LE interviewed said that she acted like she did any other day

So how was she erratic and not entirely rational?

Excellent point! They certainly did.

 

[Elley Mae]

It definitely does not make her sound like the "mother of the year" Cindy has been describing.

Personally,I am tired of the kind of entitlement afforded "killer moms" as opposed to other murderers. It seems to be assumed that when a "mother" takes her child's life, she must be ill...she suffered abuse...it was an accident. The excuses are stomach turning. (IMO)

I think a woman who kills her baby to "catch a man" is MORE evil than the black widow who kills an old coot for his money. Old coots should KNOW better. Children are innocent.

Thank you Thank You Thank You I am beside myself right now (literally) this drives me crazy. She does not have an excuse. Her only reason for it,was Caylee got in the way. WTH

 

[Patty G]

Yes I know. What I mean is, why are they talking about moms who murdered their children if Casey is not supposed to have done so?

They always bring in other cases to show the judge "see, Mrs. Smith and Mrs. Yates killed their children but they didn't get the death penaty, they only got life in prison."

 

[Avery]

Least we not forget, the judge ordered a psych evaluation after the first bond hearing. I know the results weren't released but just seems to me if she posed a threat to herself or others, we would have heard something about it. PPD, doesn't fly with me. IMO.

 

[impatientredhead]

Makes sense, but what CRIME are they referring to? They aren't defending her for child neglect anymore, which would be the part where she didn't report Caylee missing.

It is one sentence out of 30 pages so I don't know for sure, but it may just be referring to the crime she is charged with? We really don't have a context to frame it in.

 

[Pink Panther]

Isn't this normally discussed reviewed at the end of a trial? How can a decision be made without going through all of the information there is? One can't just ASSUME that "the crime was not cold, calculated and premeditated." Isn't that the point of having a trial?