Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 #11 *Arrest*

[tmar]

3m ago22.51 EDT
Patterson says around 11pm she began to feel nauseous and was experiencing diarrhoea.

She says she experienced “quite strong cramping” and an “urgent need to go”.

She says it was “every 20 minutes” at times and was difficult to go back to sleep.

Patterson says this lasted several hours. She took an anti-diarrhoea tablet and was able to sleep for a little bit, the court hears.

Patterson got up around 10am the day after the lunch – 30 July 2023.

She says she made herself a herbal tea.

3m ago22.51 EDT
The jury is shown CCTV footage, previously shown to the court, from Subway in Leongatha.

The court was previously told the footage, captured hours after the lunch, showed Patterson dropping her son at Subway.

Patterson says she did take her son to Subway after the lunch but says the footage does not depict her son.

Didn't Simon state, she had taken her son to Subway, after the lunch!!!

 

[MsMarple]

now16.15 AEST
Court adjourns

Mandy says the defence does not have long to go.

He says he will finish questioning his client in the morning.

The court has adjourned for the day.

The trial will resume from 10.30am tomorrow.

 

[Deleted member 363451]

Just now
Erin begins reflecting on lunch

By Judd Boaz

Erin tells the court the accusation from Simon triggered her to reflect on the lunch.

"It caused me to do a lot of thinking about a lot of things," she says.

"I was starting to think: what if they’d gone in the container with the Chinese mushrooms? Maybe that had happened."

She tells the court it made her feel scared and worried because child protection was now involved.

Erin tells the court that knowing child protection workers were on their way to her home, she decided to throw out her dehydrator.

She says she was worried she would be blamed for making her lunch guests sick, so went to dispose the dehydrator at the Koonwarra tip.

'Chinese mushrooms'? Really?

"I was starting to think: what if they’d gone in the container with the Chinese mushrooms? Maybe that had happened."

So if she was completely innocent and she did in fact purchase the dried mushrooms from a Chinese Grocery shop, she would have NO reason to throw out the dehydrator. if she was completely innocent, she would have told the medical staff immediately that she purchased the mushrooms and she was worried that may have ben the source for the poisoning of Simon's relatives. I hope the prosecution go right through her!

 

[MrJ]

I thought Monday that Erin being on the stand was a bad idea.
Yesterday I was baffled and wondered how it could get any worse for her.
Today I may as well invest in a popcorn machine for tomorrow.

 

[Deleted member 363451]

She 'accidentally' picked Death Caps, even though she admits she saw them near some big oak trees in the park. And she admitted it was a few days after she bought her dehydrator, which was a few days after she looked up the Death Cap sightings in Outrim.

So she accidentally picked the death caps, then dehydrated them, and added them to a Tupperware full of 'funny smelling' Asian mushrooms.

And she used all of them in her fancy beef wellington lunch.

She's still hinting that the Death Caps came from the Chinese Grocers IMO.

 

[katydid23]

Here comes the bowel movement testimony.

Just now
Erin says she began feeling ill near midnight

By Joseph Dunstan

Later that night, Erin remembers feeling "really nauseous", with diarrhoea beginning about 11pm or midnight.

"I would get this quite strong abdominal cramping, and then an urgent need to go," she says.

Ms Patterson says "it felt pretty frequent to me, every 20 minutes at some times, maybe further apart at other times".

"Enough that it was hard to go back to sleep," she says.

Erin says she took a drug to treat the diarrhoea symptoms at some point and was able to get some rest.

She says she got out of bed about 10am and went downstairs, where her son was in the TV room on the couch.

"I think I made some kind of herbal tea, like lemon and ginger tea, something like that," she says.

Compare THAT^^^^ description to what her lunch guests went through that first night. They threw up repeatedly and had explosive diarrhoea so constantly that they were each laying down by the bathroom door. They were weak and so unwell they needed to call an ambulance.

But all EP had to do was take an Imodium and use the toilet 10 times and she was up had tea and ready to go on a 3 hour road trip. In her cream coloured trousers.

 

[MrJ]

Key Event
6m ago
Conflicting testimony between Erin and Simon Patterson
By Judd Boaz

Erin Patterson has spent her second day in the witness box, and has given her account of the events surrounding the deadly July 29 lunch.

Some of the details Erin told the court directly conflict with testimony we've heard earlier in the trial.

A conversation alleged to have taken place on July 31 in hospital was again raised in court by the defence.

Erin told the court that while alone, Simon put forward a shocking allegation.

"He said to me, 'Is that how you poisoned my parents, using that dehydrator?'" Erin told the court.

Earlier in the trial, Mr Mandy asked Simon if he had said, "Is that what you used to poison them?"

"I did not say that to Erin," Mr Patterson replied.

 

[Detechtive]

Curious why she would want to change her phone number when her "loved in-laws" were sick and dying and she couldn't get any updates from Simon...

 

[katydid23]

1m ago
Erin learns Don and Gail Patterson are also ill

By Joseph Dunstan

She says she was still nauseous and had diarrhoea, but it wasn't as bad as it had been overnight.

Erin says her son told her he had a sore tummy and asked her if they could give church a miss and she wondered if he had a bug like her.

Ms Patterson says she recalls Simon calling at some point in the morning and asking if they were at church, and she explained to him why they'd given it a miss.

"He told me that Don and Gail had diarrhoea too," she says.

"We spoke twice that day, and he did tell me at one point they were getting fluids at Korumburra Hospital."

I bet Simon said a little bit more than his parents were 'getting fluids' at the hospital.

They arrived by ambulance and were admitted into the hospital, Sunday July 30th---and reportedly had about 40 episodes of vomiting and diarrhoea---before being transferred to a larger hospital the next morning.

I am pretty sure he would have told her how weak and unwell they were that day and he would be asking about his children out of concern. Her response was to serve them up the leftovers.

Even though she supposedly had been unwell all night and day, and her 4 lunch guests were hospitalised....

 

[katydid23]

1m ago
Erin learns Don and Gail Patterson are also ill

By Joseph Dunstan

She says she was still nauseous and had diarrhoea, but it wasn't as bad as it had been overnight.

And yet her 4 guests were quickly getting much worse, but she was miraculously feeling much better the next morning.

Erin says her son told her he had a sore tummy and asked her if they could give church a miss and she wondered if he had a bug like her.

Ms Patterson says she recalls Simon calling at some point in the morning and asking if they were at church, and she explained to him why they'd given it a miss.

"He told me that Don and Gail had diarrhoea too," she says.

"We spoke twice that day, and he did tell me at one point they were getting fluids at Korumburra Hospital."

So her response is to serve her children the left over meat, that apparently made everyone else unwell? Including herself supposedly?

 

[L_B]

I hope the prosecution can gather what she knew that Sunday, and then ask why she served leftovers!!

 

[Shortfusepsb]

DBM

 

[katydid23]

Gross....

Just now
Flight lessons cancelled and Pattersons return home

By Joseph Dunstan

On the way back, after the flying lesson was cancelled, they stopped at the Koo Wee Rup donut van.

Erin says her children took her ATM card and bought some things, including a coffee for her.

She says she didn't ask for a coffee specifically, and it would have been "habit" for her son to get something for her.

Ms Patterson says as soon as they arrived home, she ran "pretty quickly" for the toilet.

"The diarrhoea was continuing but my nausea wasn't such a huge issue anymore," she says.

That's BS imo. If she truly had food poisoning and the requisite diarrhoea and vomiting then she would have to stop more than once on a 3 hour car trip.

Her lunch guests were admitted into the hospital because they could not stop from those physical reactions, from both ends. But she describes her 'illness' as pretty mild comparatively. And she ate the same amount as Gail did.

And the supposed vomiting would not have prevented the deadly toxins from entering her blood stream. I'm sure there will be evidence offered to show that at some point. IMO

 

[katydid23]

I am sure her son would have mentioned that she stopped on the side of the road....

unless he was loyal good son trying to protect her, as he seems to be doing and can't fault him...

 

[katydid23]

Five people.

7 people actually. She and her 2 kids. They all reportedly ate the meal.

 

[Deleted member 363451]

7 people actually. She and her 2 kids. They all reportedly ate the meal.

Except we know that they didn't...

 

[katydid23]

I find this hard to believe. Didn't the son say they had steak? happy to be corrected by the way, but yeah the rest of this is a bit... hmmmmmm

1m ago
Erin tells court she served leftover Wellington to children

By Joseph Dunstan

When it came time for dinner, Ms Patterson says she took the leftover beef Wellington out of the fridge and removed the mushroom and pastry before cutting up the meat and microwaving it for her children.

Erin says she tentatively attempted some other food, but it "didn't go down well" so she stopped.

For the rest of the evening, she says she remained "a little bit off in the tummy" before going to be about 10pm or 11pm.

Overnight, she says "I felt the diarrhoea coming back a bit more strongly than it had been and that happened for a few hours".

"My best guess is around 1 or 2[am], or somewhere around there-ish," she says.

If she had scraped off the mushrooms and pastry and fed the meat to her children, they'd have been deathly ill. The deadly toxins would have been throughout that meat because it was baked in an oven with the toxic mushrooms pasted on top of it. Scraping them off would have done nothing.

 

[MrJ]

unless he was loyal good son trying to protect her, as he seems to be doing and can't fault him...

A pity that Erin appears not to have that same protective instinct when it comes to divulging private medical info

 

[katydid23]

Except we know that they didn't...

Exactly and we only know that because if it were an accidental poisoning they would all have been deathly ill. Including the Labrador most likely.

 

[Deleted member 363451]

That's BS imo. If she truly had food poisoning and the requisite diarrhoea and vomiting then she would have to stop more than once on a 3 hour car trip.

Her lunch guests were admitted into the hospital because they could not stop from those physical reactions, from both ends. But she describes her 'illness' as pretty mild comparatively. And she ate the same amount as Gail did.

And the supposed vomiting would not have prevented the deadly toxins from entering her blood stream. I'm sure there will be evidence offered to show that at some point. IMO

Does anyone else get the feeling that someone involved with the case is watching this forum? We see you Colin...