GUILTY Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 *Arrest* #17

[Detechtive]

OMG!! I hadn't seen that, thanks Monstradamus. I hope it's not misreporting.

It's in quote marks.

 

[HoneyBunOne]

Re only taking a few things with you.

I have lost count of the number of times I went somewhere that was indoors and realised it was too cold and I hadn't taken a cardigan or jacket with me.

Some of those times I ended up coming down with something after feeling too cold for two long.
Some of those times I was sick for days afterwards.

Just your phone, keys and sunglasses is not enough for everyone, no matter the weather.

Some of us like to be prepared. And EP was carrying stuff for not only herself but her children as well.

Everybody is not the same as everybody else.
Something we might do doesn't mean that everybody has to do the same thing and act the same way.

On this topic, we don't really know what we'd do in a situation exactly like this. (ie: potentially poisoned and need attention ASAP, despite how we may be feeling)

However, there have been times that I, and members of my family, have presented to an emergency department with a bag packed just in case. This is born out of experiences in the past where we've not planned to be admitted and then there's a lot of time and driving involved to get some things together, including daily medication. We don't always do it, but if we feel there's any potential for being admitted, and it's not a dire emergency where time is of the essence, we will throw some things together. We also live about 45 minutes away from a decent emergency department with all the necessary equipment, so that plays into our choices too.

Regardless, she did have a small backpack and we don't know what it contained. AFAIK, we also don't know what Erin was expecting from her presentation at hospital, but given what she knew about her lunch guests, she could assume it wouldn't be super quick. I can see someone in her position (no real friends, all the family currently hospitalised, her ex with more important things on his mind) wanting to tie up loose ends at home because she has nobody to call on, but she really should have had the foresight to see that, given her in laws were all in a bad state by then.

 

[Detechtive]

OMG they have a verdict!!

Australian woman found guilty of murder – as it happened

This blog is now closed

www.theguardian.com

 

[MrJ]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1942066666613153842

VERDICT REACHED!

 

[Scuffy35]

Verdict reached!

 

[HoneyBunOne]

Oh, a verdict will be in this afternoon!

Erin Patterson mushroom murder trial jury reaches verdict LIVE updates

Follow Daily Mail Australia's live coverage of accused mushroom chef Erin Patterson's murder trial here.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[LadyL]

They confiscate assets connected to the crime https://www.justice.vic.gov.au/justice-system/fines-and-penalties/asset-confiscation

As for money etc this might provide some insight

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Make Arrangements for your Property

If you own your house and your absence will mean that your family will be unable to cover the costs of living there, or you live alone, make arrangements well in advance of your incarceration for the relocation of your family and the rental or sale of the property. This obviously involves finding a place for your family to live, packing and moving. It is better to do this in advance and settle into a routine than to arrange for it to be done after you are incarcerated. If you own pets, arrange for someone to care for them whilst you are away.

afaik she owned her properties outright, so mortgages are no issue to her, and her family are already living elsewhere etc because she's been on remand, not out on bail. Sounds like she just needs to appoint someone to care for her things but they're still hers. Nowhere have I found anything that says your things get taken away from you.

I know people want her to like, suffer or something but we don't really do that in Australia. Even prisoners have rights.

I'm not so worried about her suffering if found guilty but how her children will fare (financially).

 

[al66pine]

"What Happens" to EP's Money & Property, if Convicted?
^@LadyL asked ^

@Eloise Thx for your response which supported my post.

They confiscate assets connected to the crime https://www.justice.vic.gov.au/justice-system/fines-and-penalties/asset-confiscation

As for money etc this might provide some insight

Preparing for Prison

If you are facing a prison term, you should be preparing for prison. You can draw on our experience using this guide.

galballyparker.com.au

Arrange a Power of Attorney​

If you have ever moved house, you will have realized how complex relocating is. Well, this is a relocation of your whole life and it is unlikely that you will adequately be able to do this in advance of going into prison. If you need someone to handle your financial interests whilst you are in custody, a power of attorney is a way of allowing someone you trust to handle the practical aspects of your affairs for you. Many people actually appoint two powers of attorney, who must both agree on a course of action before they can make a decision on their behalf. This way their is a safeguard in place. We can prepare a power of attorney for you upon receiving instructions.

Make Arrangements for your Property

If you own your house and your absence will mean that your family will be unable to cover the costs of living there, or you live alone, make arrangements well in advance of your incarceration for the relocation of your family and the rental or sale of the property. This obviously involves finding a place for your family to live, packing and moving. It is better to do this in advance and settle into a routine than to arrange for it to be done after you are incarcerated. If you own pets, arrange for someone to care for them whilst you are away.

afaik she owned her properties outright, so mortgages are no issue to her, and her family are already living elsewhere etc because she's been on remand, not out on bail. Sounds like she just needs to appoint someone to care for her things but they're still hers. Nowhere have I found anything that says your things get taken away from you.

I know people want her to like, suffer or something but we don't really do that in Australia. Even prisoners have rights.

@Eloise I'm calling your post to the attn of @LadyL, who originally posed the question.

I believe the above post by @Eloise provides more relevant info to your question about "What happens" than the previous post by @Eloise (which dealt w other types of a/c's).

Yes, VIC laws authorize confiscation of an inmate's "outside" assets connected to the crime" in some circumstances when the the assets are connected tomthe crime, as posted & linked by @Eloise.
https://www.justice.vic.gov.au/justice-system/fines-and-penalties/asset-confiscation
IDK whether if or how that info is relevant or applicable to EP, if she is convicted.

That's all.

 

[Oz Jen]

Jury finds Erin Patterson guilty of three counts of murder — as it happened

The jury in Erin Patterson's triple-murder trial has found her guilty of murdering three relatives by deliberately lacing a beef Wellington lunch with death cap mushrooms. Follow the verdict as it happened.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Deleted member 363451]

Dr Rogers says the leftovers he found contained a "single beef Wellington cut in half".​

Prosecution quizzes Erin Patterson on days after deadly mushroom lunch — as it happened

Erin Patterson gave evidence for a sixth day as her triple murder trial resumed in Morwell. Follow the court proceedings as they happened

www.abc.net.au

I will find the other bit I am referring to - I remember commenting about it in the thread previously.

I remember you commenting on it as well.

 

[Tortoise]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1942066666613153842

18 minutes time folks!!!

 

[Scooby-Doo]

Mushroom murder trial live updates: Erin Patterson found guilty of all charges in mushroom triple-murder trial

Welcome to our coverage of the mushroom murder trial as 12 jurors decide whether Erin Patterson, 50, inten...

www.9news.com.au

 

[MrJ]

As is tradition, I'll be covering the ABC's live blog updates

 

[Tortoise]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1942070456783446247

 

[Scooby-Doo]

Jury finds Erin Patterson guilty of three counts of murder — as it happened

The jury in Erin Patterson's triple-murder trial has found her guilty of murdering three relatives by deliberately lacing a beef Wellington lunch with death cap mushrooms. Follow the verdict as it happened.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Doesitmakesense]

I'm so glad this has come back now I've finished work for the day! No radio is going to spoil it for me on the way home

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Thanks @Oz Jen!

 

[L_B]

oh gosh, i wonder what it will be!!

 

[Scooby-Doo]

A fair bit of frantic energy at court​

Good afternoon from Morwell.

News that the jury had reached a verdict was sent out during the usual lunch break period a short time ago.

Journalists who were lunching in nearby cafes dropped everything to immediately head into the Latrobe Valley Law Courts.

There's currently a queue outside Courtroom 4, ahead of the highly anticipated hearing, which we're told will get underway about 2:15pm.

Jury finds Erin Patterson guilty of three counts of murder — as it happened

The jury in Erin Patterson's triple-murder trial has found her guilty of murdering three relatives by deliberately lacing a beef Wellington lunch with death cap mushrooms. Follow the verdict as it happened.

www.abc.net.au

 

[drsleuth]

Just another 15minutes for our over seas members. It's 2pm her now