GUILTY Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 *Arrest* #17

[JBowie]

An interesting article in The Australian by Claire Harvey where she posits that Patterson's motive is clearly domestic violence coercive control and that the prosecution should have presented that as her motive to the jury.

Harvey argues that if a male wiped out a family like that, by whatever means, then no one would be pondering a motive. It would be domestic violence writ large.

(pay-walled)

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/if-erin-patterson-was-a-man-we-would-know-what-the-motive-was/news-story/9b9a1b03594f2e36ee46a0dda294d520

 

[al66pine]

I think its just until sentencing? The first post in the thread says appeals aren't under subjudice as they're judge-only, and judges don't need to be protected from the opinions of the unwashed masses apparently.


technically she is not a mass murderer as 3 people died and not the 4 required by the Australian Institute of Criminology.

@Eloise
Thanks so much for providing AIC's definition of mass murderer.

And your phrasing--- "unwashed masses."

 

[Lisa4]

@Eloise
Thanks so much for providing AIC's definition of mass murderer.

And your phrasing--- "unwashed masses."

I wonder if it makes any difference that there was very nearly a fourth death. I guess it is a "mass murder attempt".

 

[Kemug]

It looks absolutely gross. IMO.

I think I'm àbout to go on a diet, and a vegan one at that!

 

[Lisa4]

I think the standout line from this trial had to be "Are you making this up as you go along?" - Nanette Rogers.

Sleepless night here... just thinking on the enormity of it all for every member of those families.

 

[Salah11]

I think I'm àbout to go on a diet, and a vegan one at that!

If a friend served that up to me I would fake a death in the family to get out of eating it and to go home.

I can see why she did individual pies to hide the Monstrosity of what was inside it.

Gordon Ramsey she is not!!

 

[browneyes]

3m ago

More photos of the leftovers​

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By Mikaela Ortolan​

A number of annotated photos were shown to the jury of leftovers during toxicology analysis.

Here are some of those images that show the beef Wellington in bags and on trays before testing.

(Victorian Supreme Court)

(Victorian Supreme Court)
Different parts of the leftovers were tested including the mushroom paste, pastry and meat from the meal.

(Victorian Supreme Court)

(Victorian Supreme Court)

Jury finds Erin Patterson guilty of three counts of murder — as it happened

The jury in Erin Patterson's triple-murder trial has found her guilty of murdering three relatives by deliberately lacing a beef Wellington lunch with death cap mushrooms. Follow the verdict as it happened.

www.abc.net.au

I’ll be skipping lunch today.

 

[browneyes]

Key Event
17m ago

CCTV of Erin Patterson dumping dehydrator at the tip​

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By Madi Chwasta​

Here are some stills from the Koonwarra Transfer Station's CCTV from August 2, 2023, which was taken days after the deadly lunch.

The vision shows Erin Patterson carrying a dehydrator into a large green shed.

(Supplied: Victorian Supreme Court)

(Supplied: Victorian Supreme Court)

(Supplied: Victorian Supreme Court)

Jury finds Erin Patterson guilty of three counts of murder — as it happened

The jury in Erin Patterson's triple-murder trial has found her guilty of murdering three relatives by deliberately lacing a beef Wellington lunch with death cap mushrooms. Follow the verdict as it happened.

www.abc.net.au

Those cream pants.

 

[3llecia]

An interesting article in The Australian by Claire Harvey where she posits that Patterson's motive is clearly domestic violence coercive control and that the prosecution should have presented that as her motive to the jury.

Harvey argues that if a male wiped out a family like that, by whatever means, then no one would be pondering a motive. It would be domestic violence writ large.

(pay-walled)

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/if-erin-patterson-was-a-man-we-would-know-what-the-motive-was/news-story/9b9a1b03594f2e36ee46a0dda294d520

Interesting.

I speculate there was a “If I can’t have them, no one can” mentality behind this crime. The same thing that drives many male family annihilators to kill partners and children.

The first police interview transcript details how much EP wanted SP’s parents in her life because hers had died.

We can now look back and agree she spoke those words with full awareness that she had caused them to become fatally ill/die.

She even states SP was jealous of her connection with his parents.

That’s her motive. She didn’t have family so SP will suffer the same fate.

 

[browneyes]

It’s a green bean. IMO

Oh my….

 

[browneyes]

At risk of starting the next Dress debate, I can see how someone could see that red bread and butter plate as orange or rust coloured.

MOO

I even zoomed in on the plate.

 

[Tortoise]

I wonder if she thought Simon still might show up, when she was at the stage of serving the meal.

I wonder if she then thought she might get Simon to take home the spare wellington she had prepared, when he dropped their son off that afternoon, and when he dropped their daughter back that evening, but Simon didn't give her the opportunity. I think their son told police that he phoned Simon that afternoon to find out what time Simon would be bringing their daughter home.

I am certain she intended Simon to eat the death caps too, and I've been musing about why she continued with her plan with only the four victims, knowing she couldn't realise her full plan. Possibly either of the above reasons might be why, IMO.

This case bears the hallmarks of a plan that went seriously awry for her, hence the disorganised way in which she stumbled through the aftermath from one mistake to the next, making it look sometimes as if she didn't have a plan or hadn't planned well, IMO.

 

[Lisa4]

Interesting.

I speculate there was a “If I can’t have them, no one can” mentality behind this crime. The same thing that drives many male family annihilators to kill partners and children.

The first police interview transcript details how much EP wanted SP’s parents in her life because hers had died.

We can now look back and agree she spoke those words with full awareness that she had caused them to become fatally ill/die.

She even states SP was jealous of her connection with his parents.

That’s her motive. She didn’t have family so SP will suffer the same fate.

Well.. except SImon was intended to be there, he pulled out.

 

[browneyes]

The Australian has a couple more photos that I don't think we have seen yet.

The mushrooms on the dehydrator rack, and the manual for the dehydrator.

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https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/erin-pattersons-mushroom-meal-photos-released-alongside-damning-court-evidence/news-story/da52ef98f099fbf6c3516cf26adaf53e?amp

Excellent evidentiary collection…they found everything. Even the chunk of green bean.

 

[Tortoise]

Why would she still have Gail's fruit platter, and the gravy, in her fridge a week later, on the 5th when police searched her house? It feels like she kept it for a reason.

 

[browneyes]

Erin Patterson is accused of tampering with prison food that made an inmate sick while waiting for the trial to begin: Had job in the Dame Phyllis Frost jail KITCHEN​

UNBELIEVABLE...!

Triple murderer Erin Patterson is accused of tampering with prison food after she was given a job in the jailhouse kitchen while waiting to stand trial.

News of the explosive allegation - levelled by an inmate housed in the same unit as Patterson at Melbourne's Dame Phyllis Frost Centre - was only revealed on Monday after she was found guilty of three counts of murder and one of attempted murder by a Victorian Supreme Court jury.

Patterson, 50, was found guilty of the attempted murder of pastor Ian Wilkinson and the murders of Gail and Don Patterson, 77, and Heather Wilkinson, 66, after serving them a beef Wellington lunch made with death cap mushrooms.

She faces a likely sentence of life in jail - a place she has become accustomed to, having been refused bail since her arrest in late 2023.

The Herald Sun newspaper reported that, following a dispute with the notorious mushroom chef, a fellow prisoner became sick - and pointed the finger at Patterson.

A Corrections Victoria source confirmed to Daily Mail Australia that Patterson had been given a job in the prison kitchen despite the nature of the allegations against her.

Patterson's supporters insisted that the prison poisoning allegation was baseless.

The mother-of-two blinked but appeared emotionless as four guilty verdicts were read out by the jury's foreperson to a court-room full of onlookers on Monday afternoon.

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Erin Patterson accused of tampering with prison food

Mushroom cook Erin Patterson was accused of tampering with prison food while waiting for the trial to begin.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Shocking new claim against mushroom murderer in jail

Alarming new allegations have been revealed about why Erin Patterson was thrown into a notorious isolation cell, before she was found guilty of triple-murder.

thenightly.com.au

Ok, those cells are too “cutesy” for me.

 

[Lisa4]

I wonder if she thought Simon still might show up, when she was at the stage of serving the meal.

I wonder if she then thought she might get Simon to take home the spare wellington she had prepared, when he dropped their son off that afternoon, and when he dropped their daughter back that evening, but Simon didn't give her the opportunity. I think their son told police that he phoned Simon that afternoon to find out what time Simon would be bringing their daughter home.

I am certain she intended Simon to eat the death caps too, and I've been musing about why she continued with her plan with only the four victims, knowing she couldn't realise her full plan. Possibly either of the above reasons might be why, IMO.

This case bears the hallmarks of a plan that went seriously awry for her, hence the disorganised way in which she stumbled through the aftermath from one mistake to the next, making it look sometimes as if she didn't have a plan or hadn't planned well, IMO.

I agree.

My guess on why she went ahead was simply that he pulled out too late for her to cancel. Coming up with an excuse that the kids had to believe as well was too much at such short notice. *Eta - even for her....
I think she still thought he might show.
In fact, I believe I read somewhere that it was only when the others arrived that they confirmed he wasn't attending.

 

[browneyes]

I wonder if she thought Simon still might show up, when she was at the stage of serving the meal.

I wonder if she then thought she might get Simon to take home the spare wellington she had prepared, when he dropped their son off that afternoon, and when he dropped their daughter back that evening, but Simon didn't give her the opportunity. I think their son told police that he phoned Simon that afternoon to find out what time Simon would be bringing their daughter home.

I am certain she intended Simon to eat the death caps too, and I've been musing about why she continued with her plan with only the four victims, knowing she couldn't realise her full plan. Possibly either of the above reasons might be why, IMO.

This case bears the hallmarks of a plan that went seriously awry for her, hence the disorganised way in which she stumbled through the aftermath from one mistake to the next, making it look sometimes as if she didn't have a plan or hadn't planned well, IMO.

I agree. I hope Simon and Ian feel safe…finally.

 

[browneyes]

Images show Erin Patterson's dining room and the dumped dehydrator​

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Here are some more images that were used as evidence during the trial.

They show Erin Patterson's dining room table, where she served up the food, and a food dehydrator which she initially denied owning - despite an instruction manual and receipt being found in her house. Patterson later admitted that she dumped it at a local tip the week after the lunch.

It was recovered by police and a forensic examination uncovered her fingerprints and traces of death cap mushrooms.

These images, which were shown to the jury, are part of about 100 exhibits that the court has now released.

SUPREME COURT OF VICTORIA

Erin Patterson found guilty of all charges in Australia mushroom trial

Patterson's in-laws died in 2023 after eating death cap mushroom-laced beef Wellingtons she had prepared.

www.bbc.co.uk

If I were Simon and Ian, I would burn that kitchen table.

 

[Tortoise]

I am so grateful for the jury's careful deliberations. IMO