Australia AUSTRALIA - 4YO AUGUST (GUS) Missing from rural family home in Outback, Yunta, South Australia, 27th Sept 2025

  • #1,861
As far as I know Gus's father has full parental rights so he was able to take his son to his living place in a fully legal way. There was no need to ambush him or keep him in the dark.

Exactly!!!

He might have had alleged argument with his in-laws
but it doesn't affect the son to whom he has full parental rights as a father.
 
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  • #1,862
As far as I know Gus's father has full parental rights so he was able to take his son to his living place in a fully legal way. There was no need to ambush him or keep him in the dark.
That's my understanding also.
But if dad wanted to take Gus, he would have organised it with the mum and not just randomly take him from the sandpit, right??

Because he's got full parental rights, so when he has Gus it's at his discretion?

Maybe Jess did call him to let him know his son was missing, and his phone may have been on do not disturb if he was sleeping.

Imho
 
  • #1,863
@katydid23 you make an excellent point.

The fact that no one called the dad, not even the cops tells me there may have been some initial suspicious on the dad. But since then the dad has been cleared of involvement and he's been holed up in Adelaide, reportedly upset about his son being missing.

Was the geographic seperation of parents amicable?

I am not certain that this is a fact. We don't know who may have tried to call the dad, or even if they successfully reached him. The arrival of the police at his home does not exclude the possibility of phone calls.
 
  • #1,864
I am not certain that this is a fact. We don't know who may have tried to call the dad, or even if they successfully reached him. The arrival of the police at his home does not exclude the possibility of phone calls.
You're quite right. I have edited my post.
 
  • #1,865
Well...

As was reported
Father was angry that it was Police, not the in-laws, who notified him about son's disappearance.
And that it happened so late.

So I guess he was on phone all the time.

JMO

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"It is understood Mr Lamont only found out his child was missing when police woke him up at his Belalie North home,
hours after Gus had vanished."

 
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  • #1,866
@katydid23 you make an excellent point.

Ok so let's hypothesise that no one called the dad, not even the cops...were initial suspicious on the dad?


So perhaps since that time the dad has been cleared of any involvement and he's been holed up in Adelaide, reportedly upset about his son being missing.

Was the geographic seperation of parents amicable?

Respectfully, I think the expression "holed up" has connotations that perhaps may have been unintended.
 
  • #1,867
If I were to have suspicion, and I'm not saying I do, but if I did, the focus for me wouldn't be on dad. I don't think Gus was 'taken' from that property. I don't think Gus wandered off into the bush....and I don't even think Gus was playing on that sand/dirt pile. I think one must look back prior to the young lad's reported disappearance for answers. That's just me, and it's my opinion, admittedly potentially being completely wrong.
 
  • #1,868
As far as I know Gus's father has full parental rights so he was able to take his son to his living place in a fully legal way. There was no need to ambush him or keep him in the dark.
As far as we know, but we don't have the full picture, imo. And I do NOT believe the father took Gus. I was just saying that LE, in immediate aftermath, would have to be open to that possibility.
 
  • #1,869
Ok so let's hypothesise that no one called the dad, not even the cops...were initial suspicious on the dad?
When a woman goes missing or is found dead, it seems that in many western countries and quite possibly Australia, New Zealand as well initial suspicions are on her husband or partner. It's possible that it's similar for a missing child when one parent doesn't live on the property - that this parent gets checked out by the police asap.

MOO
 
  • #1,870
If I were to have suspicion, and I'm not saying I do, but if I did, the focus for me wouldn't be on dad. I don't think Gus was 'taken' from that property. I don't think Gus wandered off into the bush....and I don't even think Gus was playing on that sand/dirt pile. I think one must look back prior to the young lad's reported disappearance for answers. That's just me, and it's my opinion, admittedly potentially being completely wrong.
I don't think Dad took him either. I was just saying that LE would have to consider that as a possibility on that first night he went missing. He would be an automatic suspect until cleared. IMO
 
  • #1,871
When a woman goes missing or is found dead, it seems that in many western countries and quite possibly Australia, New Zealand as well initial suspicions are on her husband or partner. It's possible that it's similar for a missing child when one parent doesn't live on the property - that this parent gets checked out by the police asap.

MOO
Yes, that was my point. When a child goes missing, a custody battle is often the motive behind it. LE is always going to look to the other parent if they are not in the home. IMO
 
  • #1,872
As far as I know Gus's father has full parental rights so he was able to take his son to his living place in a fully legal way. There was no need to ambush him or keep him in the dark.
If that had happened (if Gus had been perfectly legally taken by his own father), would the father be legally required to tell the other parent where Gus was?

I would think yes, but maybe it's actually more of a moral "requirement" than a legal one.
 
  • #1,873
If I were to have suspicion, and I'm not saying I do, but if I did, the focus for me wouldn't be on dad. I don't think Gus was 'taken' from that property. I don't think Gus wandered off into the bush....and I don't even think Gus was playing on that sand/dirt pile. I think one must look back prior to the young lad's reported disappearance for answers. That's just me, and it's my opinion, admittedly potentially being completely wrong.
I’m with you on this I don’t think the dad has taken him.
If Gus wandered off surely he would have been found given the extensive searches .
I think if he was abducted someone living in the area would’ve noticed dust clouds from a vehicle.
It seems suspicious to me too but I may be wrong
 
  • #1,874
It’s annoying me now that Gus’s family seemed reluctant to accept much help or even want a photo of him out there.
Not a single close family member has made an appeal.
Why is it all so secret?
 
  • #1,875
Well...

As was reported
Father was angry that it was Police, not the in-laws, who notified him about son's disappearance.
And that it happened so late.

So I guess he was on phone all the time.

JMO

Quote

"It is understood Mr Lamont only found out his child was missing when police woke him up at his Belalie North home,
hours after Gus had vanished."

I can only see it says he was furious "he went missing".
 
  • #1,876
It’s annoying me now that Gus’s family seemed reluctant to accept much help or even want a photo of him out there.
Not a single close family member has made an appeal.
Why is it all so secret?
I don't speak for them but I assume its because they want to avoid the inevitable transphobia and also probably the judgment of their unusual living situation of the dad and mum still being in a relationship but living apart. Also its not like he went missing in a city where getting a photo out there helps in the public recognising the child; there's nobody really out there and nobody to make an appeal to.
 
  • #1,877
Yes, that was my point. When a child goes missing, a custody battle is often the motive behind it. LE is always going to look to the other parent if they are not in the home. IMO
Exactly, parental abduction would be one possibility for the police to either rule out or rule in.

Imo
 
  • #1,878
I don't speak for them but I assume its because they want to avoid the inevitable transphobia

The gate has well and truly shut on that deeply personal secret.


and also probably the judgment of their unusual living situation of the dad and mum still being in a relationship but living apart. Also its not like he went missing in a city where getting a photo out there helps in the public recognising the child; there's nobody really out there and nobody to make an appeal to.
 
  • #1,879
Well...

As was reported
Father was angry that it was Police, not the in-laws, who notified him about son's disappearance.
And that it happened so late.

So I guess he was on phone all the time.

JMO

Quote

"It is understood Mr Lamont only found out his child was missing when police woke him up at his Belalie North home,
hours after Gus had vanished."

Well that’s suspicious
 
  • #1,880
It’s annoying me now that Gus’s family seemed reluctant to accept much help or even want a photo of him out there.
Not a single close family member has made an appeal.
Why is it all so secret?
It’s weird
I’d love to know what the police really think
 

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