Australia Australia - Pheobe Bishop, 17, failed to board a scheduled flight from a Queensland Airport. Last seen Airport Drive, Bundaberg, 15 May 2025

Why would her brother comment and lie though? As I said people can only be charged if the victim contacts police. I don’t know either of them so obv don’t know anything for sure. But comments from locals suggest they are both as dodgy as each other. The brothers comment literally said her mum tried to help her and she cut her off
Sorry, but DV charges can be laid by police. The victim does not need to make a complaint.

 
But in an explosive twist, officers revealed that key evidence may have been moved from the park before they began their search on Friday.”


Police began their search of the Goodnight Scrub National Park on Friday, 23rd May.
The Hyundai i35 would have been seized on Wednesday, 21st May, when it was declared a crime scene.


I wonder how they moved evidence from GNS? Surely there would be plenty of evidence in the Hyundai i35? Bits of grass, dirt, etc. would cling to everything and be hard to clean thoroughly. Or maybe they had a second vehicle and had to do something seeing as the Police had declared their home and car a crime scene?




 
Sorry, but DV charges can be laid by police. The victim does not need to make a complaint.

I see that now. I’m not in Australia. I still don’t think he’s as innocent as everyone thinks he is. DV is mostly perpetuated by males on females. PB was in a family environment with them. We don’t know much yet but I am relatively sure he was involved
 
When was the actual last time anyone saw her or spoke to her? We still don't know if the WA boyfriend actually spoke to her or it was just a text. Correct me if I'm wrong but I have been following this pretty closely.

You're right, I checked all of the Queensland Police updates and there is nothing mentioned about a phonecall.

We're only going off vague media reports such as this:
Another relative told the outlet Pheobe was on the phone with her boyfriend not long before she disappeared. ”She didn’t check in for her flight to visit her boyfriend who she spoke to on the phone at 8.30am,” they said.
“Her phone has been switched off from this point. She hasn’t contacted anyone at all, no one has seen her.”


Third or fourth hand information is probably not particularly reliable. If it was a text like you say, it could have been sent by anyone as a cover before her phone was switched off and disposed of.
 
Does that mean between February and May, more firearms were acquired
RSBM and BBM

It would appear so …. I went back to find further information regarding the initial charges and court dates etc …. To ensure they are new charges.

It is possible that further firearms were already in her possession (but at another location) as it reads like the initial weapons charges were discovered on a traffic stop. (Feb 24)

Paraphrased ….

Court documents show TB was charged with three weapons-related offences and appeared at Bundaberg Magistrates Court on March 28.

She was charged with unlawful possession of a shorted firearm in public, unlawful possession of a weapon category a, b or m and possession of a knife in a public place or school.


Police allege TB had a sawn-off shotgun and flick knife at Emerald on the Capricorn Highway on February 24.

TB is due to appear again in Bundaberg Courthouse on June 23, related to those charges…


At this stage it appears that TB has been charged for possession of further firearms and it appears they were found in her car….. however it is possible that she is “taking the rap” for the firearms, for what ever reason??? Even though it would break her bail conditions…

Police are applying pressure with these new charges …IMO even though rightfully charged …

One could wonder if her partner was there at court for “support” or for another reason??? A standover tactic perhaps ??? (Just speculation and IMO) As media reports he broke cover to attend the hearing ….

I don’t know the answer to any of your other questions and valid points raised in your post ….


 
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This is a different area to GNS 😊 this area is Boolboonda - they were out there for about 2.5hours and this was their map. Looks like they’ve just headed back to Bundy.
I'm not sure it sheds any particular light but it is curious to me that the flight path appears to focus on the ridges.

Edited to add that from my desktop aerial searches the flight path follows some existing tracks...I'm guessing they have data or witness of a vehicle being there
 
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Or it could just be the mother and daughter’s dysfunctional relationship story told by TB's mother to take sides. I have seen it time and time again. I can't imagine TB's mother is a functional wholesome human with a daughter like that.

RSBM and BBM

It would appear so …. I went back to find further information regarding the initial charges and court dates etc …. To ensure they are new charges.

It is possible that further firearms were already in her possession (but at another location) as it reads like the initial weapons charges were discovered on a traffic stop. (Feb 24)

Paraphrased ….

Court documents show TB was charged with three weapons-related offences and appeared at Bundaberg Magistrates Court on March 28.

She was charged with unlawful possession of a shorted firearm in public, unlawful possession of a weapon category a, b or m and possession of a knife in a public place or school.


Police allege TB had a sawn-off shotgun and flick knife at Emerald on the Capricorn Highway on February 24.

TB is due to appear again in Bundaberg Courthouse on June 23, related to those charges…


At this stage it appears that TB has been charged for possession of further firearms and it appears they were found in her car….. however it is possible that she is “taking the rap” for the firearms, for what ever reason??? Even though it would break her bail conditions…

Police are applying pressure with these new charges …IMO even though rightfully charged …

One could wonder if her partner was there at court for “support” or for another reason??? A standover tactic perhaps ??? (Just speculation and IMO) As media reports he broke cover to attend the hearing ….

I don’t know the answer to any of your other questions and valid points raised in your post ….


Yes! I didn’t think about that angle. Was JW really at court for support of TB
 
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In many homicide cases, perpetrators may hastily conceal a victim's body in a remote location, such as scrubland, covering it partially with natural materials. This initial concealment is often due to panic or the immediate need to distance themselves from the crime scene. Later, they might return to the site to bury the body more thoroughly in an attempt to prevent discovery.

Forensic investigations have documented such practices. For instance, a study published in Forensic Science International discusses the challenges of locating and analysing clandestine graves, noting that bodies are sometimes initially concealed and later buried more deeply to hinder detection.


 
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In many homicide cases, perpetrators may hastily conceal a victim's body in a remote location, such as scrubland, covering it partially with natural materials. This initial concealment is often due to panic or the immediate need to distance themselves from the crime scene. Later, they might return to the site to bury the body more thoroughly in an attempt to prevent discovery.

Forensic investigations have documented such practices. For instance, a study published in Forensic Science International discusses the challenges of locating and analysing clandestine graves, noting that bodies are sometimes initially concealed and later buried more deeply to hinder detection.


This isn’t about moving a body though. Just concealing it more thoroughly
 
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This isn’t about moving a body though. Just concealing it more thoroughly

The two are highly inter-related.

Research indicates that a significant proportion of homicide perpetrators move victims' bodies post-mortem, often to conceal the crime, hinder identification, or delay discovery. Studies across various contexts have documented this behaviour, highlighting its prevalence and the factors influencing such actions.

Prevalence of Body Movement in Homicide Cases
High Incidence of Body Movement: In a study analyzing 119 adjudicated homicide cases, it was found that in 87% of cases, perpetrators transported the corpse to a location separate from the homicide scene. This suggests that body movement is a common post-crime behaviour among offenders.




BODY DISPOSAL IN HOMICIDE CASES
 
I'm not sure it sheds any particular light but it is curious to me that the flight path appears to focus on the ridges.

There was a little creek underneath the flight path. Hard to see, so I’ve enlarged it. But the creek must be pretty insignificant, isn’t even appearing on a map search. It seems to be a very small tributary of Gin Gin Creek.

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There was a little creek underneath the flight path. Hard to see, so I’ve enlarged it. But the creek must be pretty insignificant, isn’t even appearing on a map search. It seems to be a very small tributary of Gin Gin Creek.

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I think they will likely find the luggage weighed down in a creek.
 
There was a little creek underneath the flight path. Hard to see, so I’ve enlarged it. But the creek must be pretty insignificant, isn’t even appearing on a map search. It seems to be a very small tributary of Gin Gin Creek.

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Looks to be a small quarry or cutting directly beneath this area too.
 
I absolutely don’t believe in anything out of the ordinary. In fact it scares the 🤬🤬🤬🤬 out of me. Tonight I have had two very weird things happen. Very loud screeching noises to the point I’ve checked on my children. Both after commenting on social media posts. I know how crazy this sounds but I think I need to bow out. I’m not built for that 🤣
 
RSBM and BBM

It would appear so …. I went back to find further information regarding the initial charges and court dates etc …. To ensure they are new charges.

It is possible that further firearms were already in her possession (but at another location) as it reads like the initial weapons charges were discovered on a traffic stop. (Feb 24)

Paraphrased ….

Court documents show TB was charged with three weapons-related offences and appeared at Bundaberg Magistrates Court on March 28.

She was charged with unlawful possession of a shorted firearm in public, unlawful possession of a weapon category a, b or m and possession of a knife in a public place or school.


Police allege TB had a sawn-off shotgun and flick knife at Emerald on the Capricorn Highway on February 24.

TB is due to appear again in Bundaberg Courthouse on June 23, related to those charges…


At this stage it appears that TB has been charged for possession of further firearms and it appears they were found in her car….. however it is possible that she is “taking the rap” for the firearms, for what ever reason??? Even though it would break her bail conditions…

Police are applying pressure with these new charges …IMO even though rightfully charged …

One could wonder if her partner was there at court for “support” or for another reason??? A standover tactic perhaps ??? (Just speculation and IMO) As media reports he broke cover to attend the hearing ….

I don’t know the answer to any of your other questions and valid points raised in your post ….


Yes, they might be existing rather than purchased post Feb. My understanding is the Feb firearms & knife were in the car (traffic stop). The new charges appear to be firearms found in the car due to car being searched now for PB. So whether newly acquired or had more than what she was caught with, they’ve felt a need to put guns back into the car between Feb & May. Is crime so bad there you need guns in your car? It seems a deliberate act to re-arm the car. Whether it’s TB or she’s taking the rap and that could be the case, someone has re-armed the car which is either supremely stupid or the need ‘they’ felt over rode concerns of getting caught.

Let’s assume they weren’t responsible for PB, just knowing you’re the last one she was with in your car, the first thing you’d do would be remove the ‘new’ guns as odds are the police are going to want to look in your car, especially with a pending charge (unsure if that’s the correct terminology) of firearms in your car from Feb. They’d know if caught that means no bail & jail.

I struggle to think anyone could be that stupid but they could be 🤷‍♀️
 
I see that now. I’m not in Australia. I still don’t think he’s as innocent as everyone thinks he is. DV is mostly perpetuated by males on females. PB was in a family environment with them. We don’t know much yet but I am relatively sure he was involved
I don't anybody is implying that he is innocent. As an ex-QPS officer I can say- with absolute conviction- woman are just as capable of violence as men. In fact, woman statistically are more likely to inflict physical violence on a child. I think it's best to keep an open mind with this one. Only TB has been charged, indicating that not enough evidence exists to charge JW as yet. Neither fact makes either party less culpable than the other.
 
I also think having a gun under your car seat is helpful if you want to control a situation even if it’s not used 😞
 
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Third or fourth hand information is probably not particularly reliable. If it was a text like you say, it could have been sent by anyone as a cover before her phone was switched off and disposed of.

And if it was a text, it seems very common for people to send texts from a victim's phone to act like the person is still alive when they are not.

It has happened in countless cases. imo

Eg: the recent case of Frances Crawford where her husband conducted a text conversation between their two phones - the conversation is thought to have happened after he (allegedly) killed Frances.

 
Not quite correct at Bundy airport. There is a passenger dropoff/pickup thoroughfare that you access directly from airport drive. Dropping PB off in this area would have cost an additional minute or two and exited the vehicle northbound directly. As someone that regularly uses this airport, being dropped off on airport drive makes zero sense to me.

Why are assuming it was a Qantas flight? Has that been reported somewhere? There is a daily flight from Bundy to Brisbane at 0925 via Link airways. This fits much better with the timeline.
I regularly use the airport. To park you need a ticket and often the drop off zone is full. It's not my choice but I know of others who have done that. I don't think it is suspicious behaviour by itself (if you add it to everything else that has been released, then yes, but that alone isn't suspicious to me).
 

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