My guess would be the intimidation, assault case because the NSWCC is highly secretive and I doubt DB would have a record of what went on in there that he could verifiably confirm. Sean Ogilvy was the officer in charge of the child abuse case and we know he was on the stand in that case. 'You're a bad mother': Court hears more recordings of alleged abuse by Tyrrell foster mother
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"The woman also provided a written reference for the foster parents in a different matter, which has been seen by news.com.au."
In the same article you reference, it says the following just to give context:
The woman also provided a written reference for the foster parents in a different matter, which has been seen by news.com.au.
This reference says, “I know without a shred of doubt that they are not capable or guilty of any negative behaviour towards children.
“I was interviewed by police officers in October 2021,” the reference continues. “What I have written here, is what I told the police.”
Detective Senior Constable Sean Ogilvy told Parramatta Local Court last year that police had a “substantial number of witness statements”.
These were gathered as part of a separate prosecution of the foster parents for the alleged assault and intimidation of a child who is not William, the court heard.
The reference might have been for the NSWCC or for the coroner's court. MOO
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I do appreciate the podcast, and I find Dan's tone very mature.
Yet the premise of the podcast is a little problematic.... "What if I told you everything you thought you knew about the disappearance of William Tyrell was wrong?"
Unless you've solved the case, statements like these are just noise. And I agree with your quote above, they have been selective with their contents. Unhelpful.
But I do appreciate the podcast. Better than listening to "Jubes" build his media profile.
Episode 4 : The Police Theory
We know William was alive at 9.37am as that is when the last known photograph of him was taken.
There has been some controversy over this time but it has since been confirmed at the ongoing inquest into his disappearance.
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In February this year Mr Craddock told the inquest that the head of the police investigation, Detective Chief Inspector David Laidlaw, had not yet provided a witness statement despite one being requested in April 2023 – a delay of 10 months.
“We are still waiting on that statement. We don’t know when it’s going to be provided. We’ve followed up on that statement a number of times,” Mr Craddock told the inquest.
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I read about the X-Ways software that was used to forensically examine the proof of life photos. It is very good. It can tell many things about the EXIF data and the JPEG data.
It looks at the condition of the file, if the file is complete (hasn't lost data), trailing data (if data was added), if JPEG data was retroactively removed with a tool, if it was cropped, if the amount of 'slack' present is what should be expected from the photo source, if the jpeg file is rewritten by an editor the 'slack' disappears, the field sensor size (when a photo is reproduced), the processing state (camera, editor, or content management system) .... among other things.
Just mentioned a few of the things it forensically looks at, to give an idea of its capabilities. But there is much more in this link.
It looks at the condition of the file, if the file is complete (hasn't lost data), trailing data (if data was added), if JPEG data was retroactively removed with a tool, if it was cropped, if the amount of 'slack' present is what should be expected from the photo source, if the jpeg file is rewritten by an editor the 'slack' disappears, the field sensor size (when a photo is reproduced), the processing state (camera, editor, or content management system) .... among other things.
Just mentioned a few of the things it forensically looks at, to give an idea of its capabilities. But there is much more in this link.
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I took a look at the 4 properties that now overlook the Cobb and Co Road location. In 2014 one of the properties wasn't there yet. So, 3 properties overlooked the location at the time.
First screenshot from Google Earth Pro .... Feb 2014. The 4th property first appears in Oct 2020 image (second screenshot) and more buildings are added to that property by July 2021.
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First screenshot from Google Earth Pro .... Feb 2014. The 4th property first appears in Oct 2020 image (second screenshot) and more buildings are added to that property by July 2021.
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I wonder if the software established when the photo created time was changed to the corrected time;
And do we know who changed the photo times on the Bali camera?
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If you read and digest the link I provided it will answer a lot of questions for you.
Simplistically, some times are produced by the camera and some times are pulled in by geotagging.
In other words, the camera provides its version of the time, and the geotagging provides the real time at the location where the photo was taken. No human intervention required.
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Do we know for certain what time fm took that drive to the riding school. DB suggests it’s before ff got home taking into account the ff walkthrough where he tells police he can see fm searching and calling out for W down the street. However CO in her book says that fm approaches AMS who is outside having a cigarette and asks if she has seen a little boy in a Spider-Man suit. Fm runs down to the bus stop at the end of the street where she hears what she thought was a child scream. She looks for W but can’t find him. She then runs back to the house to get her mums keys and drives out onto to Batar Creek Rd to the Riding School. So if fm spoke to AMS at 10:40 then her drive in fgm car would have been after ff arrived. AC also says something similar in her book about the fm drive.
So was her drive before or after ff arrived home?
So was her drive before or after ff arrived home?
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No…..
This needs to be clarified at the next inquest, IMO.
We only have assumptions to work on from various accounts of that morning and the articles written, and it's one of the biggest frustrations with the timeline … IMO
I was hoping that perhaps the latest podcast could clarify that question but they too, only seem to have assumptions ….
JMO
I've always thought it was after, just as CO describes it.
Would be great to get clarification.
Mr Craddock also seemed to say the same in his outline at the very beginning of the inquest when he was describing the morning.
I think it is unknown in the sequence of events when she took the car out, however DB is using logical deduction based on everyone else's statements and evidence given at the inquest who observed the FM in the 1st hour of searching. No one else describes her taking her mother's car out in their statements.
“That was one of the theories, yes,” Mr Lonergan said in court in 2022.
“I’ve formed the view that (the foster mother) knows where William Tyrrell is,”
he told the court.
I have felt that a number of scenarios/theories have been investigated by the police around the FM besides WT dying. MOO
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If it was after FF arrived home, why would FM take the FGM car and not their own vehicle?? Especially as you can see far more sitting in a 4WD than a little sedan???
JMO ….
Agree that clarification is needed … Badly …
The only place the drive appears to be mentioned is in the Walkthru Interview that was released by the coroner ….. Surely the time of the drive must be in the NSWCC transcript somewhere to make such accusations …..
All IMO
I think maybe it didn't happen at all. She dreamt it. That's why it doesn't fit with anything else, and why she didn't mention it in the first interview. And why the truck driver seems not to have come forward.
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I don't know that it will ever be clarified (to the public). Maybe it will, maybe it won't.
We are probably not going to hear everything that is in the police brief. We didn't at the previous tranches. Some things are just known by the police and the Coroner, and that is as far as it goes.
If I had to choose someone's version, I would probably choose Caroline Overington's version. Not because it fits any better, but because I think she probably had the best police sources at the time.
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We are probably not going to hear everything that is in the police brief. We didn't at the previous tranches. Some things are just known by the police and the Coroner, and that is as far as it goes.
If I had to choose someone's version, I would probably choose Caroline Overington's version. Not because it fits any better, but because I think she probably had the best police sources at the time.
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It seems that there are a few people that we don't know if they ever came forward. Or if the police were ever able to locate them.
- Like the cars that Ronald Chapman saw, one with a little boy in the back wearing a Spiderman outfit (he thinks).
- Or the car that did a turn-around while the children were riding bikes.
- Or the vehicle that the Crabbs heard, that turned out not to be postie - even though it sounded like postie's vehicle. (I am guessing this one was never located because I think that Laura Beacroft thinks that this is when William disappeared. I think this one is also why Craig Lambert suspected postie was responsible for William's disappearance.)
I would have thought that if anyone could be tracked down it would have been the truck driver, because surely he would have been coming from a fairly local area, transporting goods to or from a local-ish place. Or maybe a truck driver who lived in the area and kept his truck at his place. I would have thought that to be using Batar Creek Road he would have business to do in the area or live locally.
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- Like the cars that Ronald Chapman saw, one with a little boy in the back wearing a Spiderman outfit (he thinks).
- Or the car that did a turn-around while the children were riding bikes.
- Or the vehicle that the Crabbs heard, that turned out not to be postie - even though it sounded like postie's vehicle. (I am guessing this one was never located because I think that Laura Beacroft thinks that this is when William disappeared. I think this one is also why Craig Lambert suspected postie was responsible for William's disappearance.)
I would have thought that if anyone could be tracked down it would have been the truck driver, because surely he would have been coming from a fairly local area, transporting goods to or from a local-ish place. Or maybe a truck driver who lived in the area and kept his truck at his place. I would have thought that to be using Batar Creek Road he would have business to do in the area or live locally.
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I just listened to episode 4 of Witness.
Dan Box and his producer time how long it takes to drive to the riding school and back to dispose of William and estimate 26 minutes.
We know the mother took the drive to the riding school but did not tell the police for 6 days, did not tell her husband when he arrived home, and did not tell the person she spoke to on the 000 call.
Her behaviour between around 9.40am and 10.30am is so so suspicious.
Why did she tell her husband that “William was here 5 minutes ago” when she has already been in grandmas car for 30 minutes? Why did she delete his text when he said “home in5”? Why did she tell 000 call receiver he may have been missing for 5-20 minutes when it was clearly an hour ago that she went for the drive? Why did she say there were no cars around then change her story to 2 suspicious cars much later.
With all of these things I can’t get past her guilt of something- otherwise why do all of the above???? Something smells and Laidlaw can smell it IMO.
Dan Box and his producer time how long it takes to drive to the riding school and back to dispose of William and estimate 26 minutes.
We know the mother took the drive to the riding school but did not tell the police for 6 days, did not tell her husband when he arrived home, and did not tell the person she spoke to on the 000 call.
Her behaviour between around 9.40am and 10.30am is so so suspicious.
Why did she tell her husband that “William was here 5 minutes ago” when she has already been in grandmas car for 30 minutes? Why did she delete his text when he said “home in5”? Why did she tell 000 call receiver he may have been missing for 5-20 minutes when it was clearly an hour ago that she went for the drive? Why did she say there were no cars around then change her story to 2 suspicious cars much later.
With all of these things I can’t get past her guilt of something- otherwise why do all of the above???? Something smells and Laidlaw can smell it IMO.
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I don't know how they can estimate a length of time to "dispose of" William--it would have to depend on the method--but the distance is under a kilometre each way. Assuming she was searching not disposing, she wasn't in the car for 30 minutes, but under 5.
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