Australia Australia - William Tyrrell Disappeared While Playing in Yard - Kendall (NSW) #79
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Thanks, are you able to link me to these discussions that were had on her, or give me an idea of when & I'm happy to look??
Thank you but it's actually in threads at least 1 or 2 years before FA had been identified publicly as a suspect or the inquests had even begun. It's around the time we were looking at Middle Brother forest and a stump which was a geocachng site.
I'd start looking around the time this article came out Dr. William Tyrrell 'treasure game' slammed by police - 9News
Ok thanks
Also a new episode for the next 3 days this week
The article is Feb 8 2016, so I'm going to start from there.
Cop makes big call on explosive investigation into claims over where William Tyrrell’s body could be
A former homicide cop has claimed one convicted pedophile should be forced to give evidence at the inquest into William Tyrrell’s disappearance.Convicted pedophile Frank Abbott should be forced to give evidence at the inquest into William Tyrrell’s disappearance to determine whether or not he knows what happened to the three-year-old, a former NSW homicide detective says.
Contested claims that the late Jeffrey Abbott claimed his younger brother Frank told him “he did do it” and William is buried up on Big Bird Mountain, a well known area in Kendall on the NSW Central Coast, should be thoroughly investigated and the area searched, ex-detective Peter Hogan said.
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“I appreciate that people have come forward to speak on the podcast, but I implore those who did but have not spoken to police, to do so, provide a statement so your evidence is admissible,” he said.
“It’s important to know that hearsay evidence is admissible in a Coronial Court, so your evidence is vitally important to the Coronial Inquest and to bringing William home.
Here is the link for anyone that wants it, page 46
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I've never understood why FA had so much access and input at the Inquest....was a reason ever given why this happened?? Any legals out there who know why? I think he was even allowed to question witnesses???? Now we will never be given the reason he wasn't questioned at the inquest. Maybe it's all part of a LE plan????
Do you have a news article or podcast quote that specifically says there is a NPO on this?
It's in today's podcast
The Bird Tree |12 - Witness: William Tyrrell
We uncover shocking allegations about a ‘person of interest’ who was never called to answer questions in public. Witness: William Tyrrell is the new, landmark investigation from news.com.au. Read more and watch exclusive video content here Follow us on socials: Instagram: @newscomauhq Facebook...
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Around 14 mins 45 seconds
Because he was classed as an "Interested Party" ie a POI & a significant amount of the inquest was related to him.
He had the same rights to question ( cross examination ) any witness he wanted & certainly did this for the majority of witnesses we heard in the Taree Tranche.
The million dollar question is why he never ended up giving evidence & why that decision is not allowed to be known by the public, when it was suspected that he would give evidence & the Coroner even told him that a few times, when he would ramble on with his statements...........
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IMO, this a case of the law being an a-s-s.
Such NPO's protect the criminal and punish the innocent/victims.
Honestly FA made a mockery of the court IMO. He treated it like his circus . For his own sick twisted pleasure. IMO
A few eg's of his carry on.................
Eg when a witness did not agree with him ( this was Jan Anderson )
FA : " I put to you that is not correct!"
Witness disagrees ( in relation to where FA was living at the time )
Coroner " You put something to her & she disagreed. Stop your statements Mr Abbott, these need to be questions"
More statements from FA
Coroner " You've just got to focus on question's Mr Abbott"
Than FA kept butting in while Me Craddock was doing re - cross & when told to stop his reply was " Just trying to help Jan out"
Than another witness Dean Anderson ( Jan's son )
FA was making statements about this witness illegally dumping asbestos , which the witness denied.
The witness says " I don't see what that's got to do with why we are here today"
Which the coroner replies " Yes, good point!"
Than FA has one further go " I'm not real good on dates ( after he only a few witnesses later was able to rattled of his most recent court dates & gaols he was in & when he got bail etc with no problem ) but you seem to have an outstanding memory for dates all of a sudden!"
Than with Tanya ( protected witness )
Instead of just not having any questions he had to add at the end of her evidence " No question's . she's only a young girl "
Daniel Parish
FA " I can prove to you beyond doubt I was not "
FA " I know I'm telling the truth"
Coroner " Just ask questions Mr Abbott"
FA continues with his statements..........
Coroner " I'll stop you there Mr Abbott, I've given you some leeway"
There was this exchange between FA & Daniel
FA : " Who asked me to move into property?"
DP : "Wasn't me"
FA:" You calling your brother a liar?"
DP: "My brother was the only person stopping my father from kicking you out"
DP: " 3 times my father came to you on the verandah & asked you to leave"
FA " For a start , lets stop these lies right now.
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DP : "Thur 11/9 you were working on the bus. Ray picked you up @ 12pm"
FA : "That again not correct Mr Parish, the police have evidence!"
Coroner: " I've read all the evidence Mr Abbott"
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FA : " On your property only seem GO twice!"
DP : " I've seen him ( GO ) more than twice your honor"
FA : " I didn't know GO until I moved to his property"
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DP " This has nothing to do with WT"
Coroner : " Yes. I know"
This might just give you all a little taste for what FA was like in court, there is much more of his carry on...........
Honestly he makes me sick
A few eg's of his carry on.................
Eg when a witness did not agree with him ( this was Jan Anderson )
FA : " I put to you that is not correct!"
Witness disagrees ( in relation to where FA was living at the time )
Coroner " You put something to her & she disagreed. Stop your statements Mr Abbott, these need to be questions"
More statements from FA
Coroner " You've just got to focus on question's Mr Abbott"
Than FA kept butting in while Me Craddock was doing re - cross & when told to stop his reply was " Just trying to help Jan out"
Than another witness Dean Anderson ( Jan's son )
FA was making statements about this witness illegally dumping asbestos , which the witness denied.
The witness says " I don't see what that's got to do with why we are here today"
Which the coroner replies " Yes, good point!"
Than FA has one further go " I'm not real good on dates ( after he only a few witnesses later was able to rattled of his most recent court dates & gaols he was in & when he got bail etc with no problem ) but you seem to have an outstanding memory for dates all of a sudden!"
Than with Tanya ( protected witness )
Instead of just not having any questions he had to add at the end of her evidence " No question's . she's only a young girl "
Daniel Parish
FA " I can prove to you beyond doubt I was not "
FA " I know I'm telling the truth"
Coroner " Just ask questions Mr Abbott"
FA continues with his statements..........
Coroner " I'll stop you there Mr Abbott, I've given you some leeway"
There was this exchange between FA & Daniel
FA : " Who asked me to move into property?"
DP : "Wasn't me"
FA:" You calling your brother a liar?"
DP: "My brother was the only person stopping my father from kicking you out"
DP: " 3 times my father came to you on the verandah & asked you to leave"
FA " For a start , lets stop these lies right now.
snip
DP : "Thur 11/9 you were working on the bus. Ray picked you up @ 12pm"
FA : "That again not correct Mr Parish, the police have evidence!"
Coroner: " I've read all the evidence Mr Abbott"
snip
FA : " On your property only seem GO twice!"
DP : " I've seen him ( GO ) more than twice your honor"
FA : " I didn't know GO until I moved to his property"
snip
DP " This has nothing to do with WT"
Coroner : " Yes. I know"
This might just give you all a little taste for what FA was like in court, there is much more of his carry on...........
Honestly he makes me sick
Haha , I have nothing nice to say about him, except he's not stupid, not even in old age
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But they can't force him to give evidence if it might incriminate him and the Coroner does not want to give him immunity. And I wouldn't blame her for not wanting to give him immunity. At all.
In Victoria and New South Wales, the Coroners’ Act outlines how a witness may object to giving evidence on self-incrimination grounds.
The witness must show 'reasonable grounds' for their objection, proving their evidence could indicate an offence or civil penalty.
The reasonable grounds cannot be speculative. The coroner then assesses these grounds, and if satisfied, the witness need not provide evidence.
However, if the coroner believes the interests of justice require the witness to provide the evidence, the coroner may compel the witness to give evidence and provide a certificate granting immunity from self-incrimination.
The Inquest Series: The ‘right to silence’ in Coronial Inquests
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