CA CA - Bob Harrod, 81, Orange County, 27 July 2009 - #10

[Allusonz]

Yes, I've seen a pic of Bob and there's a white hat in the background, but of course there would be no need to wear one in the house. So it is natural to infer the hat meant he was going out......except the CL was coming. Bob knew that, but we don't know if anyone else did. We do know Bob didn't leave the key in the mailbox for her though, which he always did on the rare occasions he was not there to open the door. Ummmmm....

Maybe the neighbours did

 

[zwiebel]

Yes which begs the question of what exactly her real intentions were.

She has stated that she knew Bob, depending on which MSM article you believe 1 - 2 years prior to their engagement in January of 1950.

This would mean that she was 12 or 13 when they met and 14 years old when they supposedly became engaged. This as well puts Bob into his 20's.

All this information can be found in the MSM links which have been previously provided.

This sounds a bit like Elvis and Priscilla, doesn't it? What an amazing boy. So sad he passed so young. You can tell Priscilla never really stopped loving him.

I wouldn't let a 14 year old get engaged, or even move in with Elvis, but times were different then. And even if this is the case, it doesn't mean Bob deserved to be disappeared just after he'd got married and was looking forward to a new life in his old age. I think repeating this kind of information is damaging to Bob and hopes of finding him, IMO.

 

[Allusonz]

Not sure why it is necessary to go off and search for applicable laws, or I would. As it is, the house has been forensically searched once, so evidentally whoever was required to give permission, gave it. I can't imagine anyone wanting to find Bob would stand in the way of further attempts to find evidence of what happened to him.

I don't see the relevance at all of where FH chooses to spend her time. I can't imagine her rights to live in her husband's house come with a caveat that she has to do so in splendid isolation and never visit her family who live far away. If her husband was there as he should have been, she wouldn't need so much support from her family, poor lady.

Searched only 1 time? Do you have a cite for this? Of course though it must be at least a couple of times as I am sure LE would of searched it in the beginning as well as the 2011 time.

The blonde in me. My Straight Jacket (TM Spelling sooner or later) is in need of repairs.

I know it was searched in 2011 as well as LE decided a trip to Fontelle's home state was necessary.

 

[Allusonz]

This sounds a bit like Elvis and Priscilla, doesn't it? What an amazing boy. So sad he passed so young. You an tell Priscilla never really stopped loving him.

I wouldn't let a 14 year old get engaged, or even move in with Elvis, but times were different then. And even if this is the case, it doesn't mean Bob deserved to be disappeared just after he'd got married and was looking forward to a new life in his old age. I think repeating this kind of information is damaging to Bob and hopes of finding him, IMO.

Not to me it does not.

Again though, my asylum is in the caribbean

 

[Allusonz]

Wow!

Sanding a 150 year old banister! HUGE undertaking!

I would not even be able to give an accurate estimate as to the time which may be involved. Of course you never know what one might find once a minor repair takes a funky turn.

Especially if mold or something was found in a place such as a washroom.

Amazing the added time something might take.

Certainly hope you find no termites et al.

 

[Allusonz]

I wonder what materials one would need for mold?

If i recall, in one of my rental places a shower stall developed a leak and mold was found.

It was such a small amount though that a simple solution was used to remove it. I was so thankful that it was not a larger issue as mold in homes is never good for both health and resale. I might add the pocketbook as well.

 

[Allusonz]

I wonder.

It has been stated that the SIL did handyman jobs for his inlaws over the course of approximately 30 years.

I wonder if he ever requested payment for all these odd jobs he did?

My children are not married so have not had the benefit of having a son-in-law that I could call upon whenever to do such odd jobs such as fixing light switches etc.

Of course I am too young for grandchildren according to my way of thinking.

 

[zwiebel]

Not to me it does not.

Again though, my asylum is in the caribbean

I want to envy you but I've vowed not to moan about German weather today as there's such awful conditions across the US and I'm worried about our posters....

Back to Bob though, I didn't mean to imply only one search took place, in 2011, but actually, I am not sure if there was a forensic search originally? Or just LE looking round?

Could you give me any more details about LE's visit to MO? I hadn't heard about this.

 

[Allusonz]

If the son-in-law did request payment for this odd jobs,

Of course he may never of requested payment but I would think Bob would of wanted to reimburse him for his time.

Then again, maybe the son-in-law only requested payment for any parts he may of required....

I am positive these would be questions LE would of asked.

 

[Allusonz]

You know I have been thinking.

To repeatedly ask your son-in-law to do minor jobs around the home must of meant that the work must of met Bob's high standards.

Especially considering it was approximately 30 years worth. Bob must of as well trusted him to continue to invite him into his home. Thirty years is a long time to ask that of one person....

 

[Allusonz]

I see the issue of keys has been brought up.

I have 5 entrances to my home.

You have no idea how heavy my key rings are as surprisingly only one garage door and one other door into my home have the same darn lock!

I wonder why a general contractor would do that? Will have to ask that person.

Dang!

I forgot I was the general contractor on this particular home.

 

[zwiebel]

I wonder.

It has been stated that the SIL did handyman jobs for his inlaws over the course of approximately 30 years.

I wonder if he ever requested payment for all these odd jobs he did?

My children are not married so have not had the benefit of having a son-in-law that I could call upon whenever to do such odd jobs such as fixing light switches etc.

Of course I am too young for grandchildren according to my way of thinking.

They got a house, didn't they? In California, where it's always sunny? I'd take that deal for minor repairs for 30 years, and I WOULD finish them........

Vinegar's the bio- friendly cure for mould. Bleach is the zap it method. Neither are cures unless you tackle the source.

Termites are not a problem here - woodworm certainly is ( fachwerk houses. Sigh). Am resigned to living with them now.....

 

[Allusonz]

Speaking of keys and alarm systems.

Since the home is part of the trust, by law I believe the owner is to have keys to all doors which have locks.

I know on both rental and business properties I must so I am sure something must be the law in California.

I wonder if the conservators have made sure to request these?

 

[zwiebel]

I see the issue of keys has been brought up.

I have 5 entrances to my home.

You have no idea how heavy my key rings are as surprisingly only one garage door and one other door into my home have the same darn lock!

I wonder why a general contractor would do that? Will have to ask that person.

Dang!

I forgot I was the general contractor on this particular home.

Bet my bunch of keys is bigger than your bunch

 

[Allusonz]

They got a house, didn't they? In California, where it's always sunny? I'd take that deal for minor repairs for 30 years, and I WOULD finish them........

Vinegar's the bio- friendly cure for mould. Bleach is the zap it method. Neither are cures unless you tackle the source.

Termites are not a problem here - woodworm certainly is ( fachwerk houses. Sigh). Am resigned to living with them now.....

Simply amazing is it not?

Something as simple as vinegar and water can take care of things like mold.

I wonder how much garbage that would create? Maybe you may know zw?

You know I have been told that the shower was leaking and that there was mold but I never thought to look in the garbage can to see what they used to clean it up with.

Of course if it was vinegar and water they probably poured the solution down the drain. How silly of me. Another blonde moment

 

[Allusonz]

Well I have another little fella I have sadly neglected of late on this forum.

Hope you have a wonderful weekend all

 

[zwiebel]

Simply amazing is it not?

Something as simple as vinegar and water can take care of things like mold.

I wonder how much garbage that would create? Maybe you may know zw?

You know I have been told that the shower was leaking and that there was mold but I never thought to look in the garbage can to see what they used to clean it up with.

Of course if it was vinegar and water they probably poured the solution down the drain. How silly of me. Another blonde moment

Ya got me there, Allusonz! But I can get round it........

 

[Allusonz]

Bet my bunch of keys is bigger than your bunch

I am quite certain it would be.

My children found these amazing and totally cool key rings. One even sings . I am easily pleased

 

[zwiebel]

Gosh, it's hard to keep up with Allusonz, and there's never anyone else here when she appears. Sigh.

 

[gitana1]

Fontelle can give her permission. I doubt that it would stand up in a Court of Law. I guess LE could take their chances and hope it would.

The proper legal channels would be serving the conservators of the trust.

Interesting about the CL as well as some of the neighbours....

I am positive LE is very well aware of this though

Under California law, Fontelle has a legitimate expectation of privacy in that home, has a legal right to be there, and can give her consent. Her consent would be enough, in a court of law, to support the inclusion of any evidence found as a result of her consent alone, in my professional opinion.

I have no doubt, however, that as soon as LE realized the home was likely a crime scene, they obtained a warrant. So it is likely that by the time Fontelle got there, her consent was no longer necessary.

Please note that, IIRC, it was the beneficiaries of the trust who gave LE access to the home, initially. Fontelle was not there yet when Mr. Harrod went missing.