CA CA - Bob Harrod, 81, Orange County, 27 July 2009 - #10

[Angelo]

Who was the last known person to see Mr. Harrod alive? Has this person cooperated with PPD? Has this person taken a polygraph?

 

[GrainneDhu]

Who was the last known person to see Mr. Harrod alive? Has this person cooperated with PPD? Has this person taken a polygraph?

The exact timeline of the day Bob Harrod disappeared changed frequently in the first few weeks he was missing.

Roughly, JeM was at Bob's house during the morning to do some sort of repairs. According to PB when she called her father's house at some point that morning, she heard her brother-in-law in the background.

At some point during the day, JeM left Bob's house to go to a store.

Bob's housekeeper was waiting outside the house when JeM returned. They entered the house together and discovered that Bob was not there.

He hasn't been seen or heard from since that time.

As for whether JeM has cooperated with the Placentia Police Department or has taken a polygraph, I do not know.

 

[Angelo]

We know SIL, JeM, left a note at Mr. Harrod's house the day of Mr. Harrod's disappearance stating he would return the next day to finish up his "home repairs."

JeM did not return. Why not?

Two excuses have been posted by JeM's sister-in-law.

JeM didn't return to the house the next day because Mr. Harrod wasn't answering his phone.

JeM didn't return because he was taking care of the dogs and didn’t want to take them over to Mr. Harrod's house or leave them alone somewhere.

 

[Angelo]

Disappeared Season 5 - Sign of Trouble (Bob Harrod)

Clip (3:23) – Posted 4/26/12

(transcribed below)

Narrator: But Jeff was not the only person at Bob’s house that day. Agnes, Bob’s housekeeper of more than 10 years, arrived around Noon. Normally, she cleans Bob’s house on Tuesday, but this week she’d arranged to come on Monday.

Agnes: And he said that will be fine, I will be here, and Jeff is coming and he’s gonna to take care of a couple of things in the house before Fontelle comes. So I went to the house, knocked on the door, nobody answered, I looked in the mailbox because that’s where he normally leaves me the key, the key wasn’t there, so I sat on the bench in front of the house.

Narrator: The situation made her very uneasy. Nothing like this had ever happened before.

Agnes: Bob always was home when I went over there, or if, him and Georgia, they would always always tell me if they would not be home, and they put a key in the mailbox. But it was a very rare occasion that they were not home.

Narrator: After about 15 minutes, Jeff drove up to the house.

Agnes: I told him right away that, you know, that where Bob is, because he’s not answering the door. And Jeff was just asking me, “Are you supposed to be here today?” I said, “Yeah, Bob knew that I’m coming today.”

Narrator: Agnes was surprised to hear that Bob didn’t tell Jeff that she would be coming that day. As Jeff let her in the house, she began to feel that something was very wrong.

Agnes: I was really concerned at that point, I was afraid to go upstairs, I didn’t want to find anything. So I asked Jeff if he would go upstairs and see if Bob was there.

Narrator: Agnes waited at the bottom of the stairs while Jeff went up to have a look around.

Agnes: I thought he’s just going to look into the room, it takes a minute to go up, look into the room, and just see if Bob was there or not. But he actually ended up spending a couple of minutes there, so I thought maybe, you know, he find something, he find him there or something. So I yelled up, I said, “Is he there, is he ok?” And he said, ‘No, he’s not here.” And then he came back.

Narrator: Uncertain about what to do next, Agnes began cleaning, while Jeff resumed his repairs. As she worked her way around the house, she noticed something disturbing.

Agnes: When I went upstairs, I saw that in his bedroom, the bed was unmade, and never in the 10 years I worked for them, that happened before. It was just so out of character for him to not to make the bed, I just thought it was very strange.

Narrator: Deeply troubled, Agnes finished up and left, shortly after Jeff, who had also completed his work.

Agnes: I was there all together about 3 hours. I can honestly tell you that during the whole time I was there, I was very concerned. I kept thinking, where is he at?

Video Clip: http://investigation.discovery.com/videos/disappeared-sign-of-trouble.html

Narrator: After about 15 minutes, Jeff drove up to the house.

Agnes: I told him right away that, you know, that where Bob is, because he’s not answering the door. And Jeff was just asking me, “Are you supposed to be here today?” I said, “Yeah, Bob knew that I’m coming today.”

Narrator: Agnes was surprised to hear that Bob didn’t tell Jeff that she would be coming that day. As Jeff let her in the house, she began to feel that something was very wrong.



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[Cubby]

It is simple enough for the people named by Mr Algorri to demonstrate that this is patently untrue.

I agree. Yet, instead of doing something simple to demonstrate it being untrue, the choice made by his daughters appears to be make dad appear as detestable as possible. Now, why would one make the choice of making him publicly detestable over the other?

 

[cloudajo]

We know SIL, JeM, left a note at Mr. Harrod's house the day of Mr. Harrod's disappearance stating he would return the next day to finish up his "home repairs."

JeM did not return. Why not?

Two excuses have been posted by JeM's sister-in-law.

JeM didn't return to the house the next day because Mr. Harrod wasn't answering his phone.

JeM didn't return because he was taking care of the dogs and didn’t want to take them over to Mr. Harrod's house or leave them alone somewhere.

Yes, and the dog ate my homework!

 

[cloudajo]

Narrator: After about 15 minutes, Jeff drove up to the house.

Agnes: I told him right away that, you know, that where Bob is, because he’s not answering the door. And Jeff was just asking me, “Are you supposed to be here today?” I said, “Yeah, Bob knew that I’m coming today.”

Narrator: Agnes was surprised to hear that Bob didn’t tell Jeff that she would be coming that day. As Jeff let her in the house, she began to feel that something was very wrong.



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Thank you. That's very important.

 

[shefner]

When does the new season of Disappeared begin?

 

[shana]

When does the new season of Disappeared begin?

Good question! I looked around its website and found no notice, yet. I believe the episode re Robert Harrod was said to be due to air in October (exactly when, I don't recall).

Hopefully, the site will update soon. Like most crime entertainment sites, it is not easy to navigate. :-o

LINK

~jmo~

 

[GrainneDhu]

We know SIL, JeM, left a note at Mr. Harrod's house the day of Mr. Harrod's disappearance stating he would return the next day to finish up his "home repairs."

JeM did not return. Why not?

Two excuses have been posted by JeM's sister-in-law.

JeM didn't return to the house the next day because Mr. Harrod wasn't answering his phone.

JeM didn't return because he was taking care of the dogs and didn’t want to take them over to Mr. Harrod's house or leave them alone somewhere.

Good catch!

The primary reason behind an action doesn't usually change in retrospect.

 

[GrainneDhu]

Narrator: After about 15 minutes, Jeff drove up to the house.

Agnes: I told him right away that, you know, that where Bob is, because he’s not answering the door. And Jeff was just asking me, “Are you supposed to be here today?” I said, “Yeah, Bob knew that I’m coming today.”

Narrator: Agnes was surprised to hear that Bob didn’t tell Jeff that she would be coming that day. As Jeff let her in the house, she began to feel that something was very wrong.



Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - CA CA - Bob Harrod, 81, Orange County, 27 July 2009 - #9

I've said it before: I believe that Agnes had a very close call that day. I believe that she said something that indicated that someone other than Bob and JeM knew where she was going to be that day. It was probably so innocuous that she may not even remember it.

I wonder if that thought has occurred to Agnes?

 

[cloudajo]

Good question! I looked around its website and found no notice, yet. I believe the episode re Robert Harrod was said to be due to air in October (exactly when, I don't recall).

Hopefully, the site will update soon. Like most crime entertainment sites, it is not easy to navigate. :-o

LINK

~jmo~

Agree, not very easy to navigate. The schedule of shows on the website currently only goes through Oct 11th and I don't see Bob's episode or any of the other Season 5 Disappeared episodes.

I had sent an online inquiry to ask about the air date. They responded and referred me back to the website.

 

[suzyq211]

Two things that seem very suspect to me are:

JeM did not return DTH the next day although he left a note saying he would be back.

AH stopped paying his mortgage payments

To me these are the actions of people who know that Mr. Harrod would never return. IMO

 

[Allusonz]

When does the new season of Disappeared begin?

I believe you will find that it is in November. That may of changed though.

 

[Allusonz]

I should be shocked by the replies to my posts sadly I am not. Rather than trying to even tackle each and every individual post that has responded to my posts, let me try to sum up why I am looking at every angle and everyone in one post.

Let me ask this. If this situation was completely reversed and Bob Harrod married Fontelle 6 days after his arrival, and the new bride disappeared after a few weeks, who would be the first person looked at? My guess would be Bob Harrod. If Bob Harrod, a new husband of a few weeks, was receiving her pension as well as his own plus an additional $3850/month from the trust account that had been set up from the labour of Fontelle's and her husband's hard work of close to 60 years, would this be acceptable to her family and various individuals without question? Would Bob Harrod be entitled to her home that formulated part of her family trust or would individuals question this? Would Bob Harrod be entitled to various possessions that Fontelle and her husband had acquired over 60 years of marriage? Would people feel that it is proper conduct to contest the trust and apply for conservatorship after a few weeks of marriage that Fontelle and her husband had set up during 60 years of marriage? Would her family be accused of elder abuse? Would people simply accept the word of one side, simply because Bob Harrod stated that it is so? Would anyone be questioning the story of how they reconnected and which the media has exploited to sell newspapers? Would anyone be taking the time to look closer at other players peripherally? Would individuals be posting that Bob Harrod better not eat anything provided from her family due to poisoning?

Whether one wishes to accept it or not, LE has not named any POI and are the only ones that have the actual facts. Would anyone question the statements in the court documents if this was Bob Harrods lawyer or would individuals accept them as fact because he stated them as being so if this situation was reversed?

Everyone here is entitled to express their opinion as well as have an opinion with respect to this case. There is a "group think" with respect to this case, and if my opinion differs from those, it is my posts which are reported and removed and jumped on by a number of individuals. I expect that as soon as I hit my submit button to have every aspect of my post dissected, usually by more than one person. If I don't quite express a "thought" correctly, even though I know most here are intelligent enough to understand the thought process I am trying to express, it is jumped on and called out. I would find it amusing if it were not the fact that it is so terribly sad and discouraging. I suspect this post will as well be reported and removed. It as well discourages others from expressing their opinions if they differ and being involved in this case, and one by one many of those posters no longer participate in this thread. Once again it simply disappoints me. I especially find it sad as many that post in this thread are posters that I normally enjoy reading their thoughts. As well, many have been moderators on this forum, so to post in this thread makes it interesting to say the least.

From the very beginning of this case, there were individuals that jumped very quickly on one thought process and I was surprised by that. I read through the various posts starting in the very first thread as I joined after Bob Harrod disappeared, but had followed it prior to. I spent the time to go through the various posts from threads which I had not read prior to joining.

I do not have all the answers but I do know what my research has found.

 

[Angelo]

Two things that seem very suspect to me are:

JeM did not return DTH the next day although he left a note saying he would be back.

AH stopped paying his mortgage payments

To me these are the actions of people who know that Mr. Harrod would never return. IMO

Agree.

 

[Cubby]

Allusonz, Respectfully. A few of us started following this case close to the 1 yr anniversary of Mr. Harrod's disappearance. We went back and started from the beginning. We scrutinized information that somehow had been lost or glossed over because Bob's daughters were clearly misleading people.

LE stated the hairdresser was ruled out within weeks, WEEKS of Mr. Harrod's disappearance, yet a year later they were still harping away on what LE had already ruled out. Why? If you want your fathers case solved, why pound away at what LE stated was not so almost immediately upon his disappearance?

Additionally, the daughters made the most horrific accusations and stated the worst things about their dad. things that would serve one purpose and one purpose only and that being making this man is so repulsive he is not worth finding.

It led those of us to ask, why? Why would those closest to Mr. Harrod choose the route they did versus a much simpler route such as doing all they could to be ruled out individually? Three years have gone by... it's a bit too late to rewrite the script here and change history. What is done is done. Much has been scrubbed off the net by Bob's daughters knowing how it appears.

Group think is an insult to those of us who have looked at every dotted i and every crossed T to come to our own conclusion. I suggest each person do their own research independently of what anyone else is saying or suggesting. Look at ALL the facts and come to your own conclusion. That is how I arrived at mine and I am sure others did the same.

 

[Cubby]

Maybe it's time to repost some of the posts Bob's daughters made in the earliest days of this case. Anyone have the old IS posts? The ones Bob's daughters had scrubbed off the net? If so, please post them as time permits. It's been some time since those have been posted. I think it's time to refresh some faded memories.

tia

 

[Cubby]

Why did daughter JuM originally report that Mr. Harrod was last seen at 11:00 am the day of his disappearance and then sometime later she and/or her husband changed the time last seen until later during the day?

Sources:

Missing Persons report filed with police:
Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - CA CA - Bob Harrod-Court Documents No discussion

OC register article Oct 8, 2009
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/-214111--.html

 

[mikkismom]

Here is what I don't understand...

Why is all of this time and effort and money being spent on lawyers and court cases and depositions and not finding Bob?

I mean, how far could an 81yo man be?

He is a PERSON and he is MISSING!!!!

I spent more time and effort trying to find my class ring than has been spent on actually LOOKING for Bob Harrod!


JMO, etc.

btw - I did find my ring after 25 years - don't wear it now because I have my wedding rings and Mother's ring which are so much more precious to me. I still put in the effort to find it!