CA CA - Bob Harrod, 81, Orange County, 27 July 2009 - #13

[Cubby]

Thanks so much Grainne for your kindness. I've always used Missouri, but I swear I thought I heard that newscaster on the video say Kansas, so then I started thinking I'd made a mistake, or Kansas must be in Missouri. *Do you have to learn all the states by heart at school in the US? If so, direct me to the homework website!

Regardless of my ignorance, I got my idea of the character of Bob and Fontelle from the Missouri photographic archives. They certainly have some weather there. What struck me wasn't the pictures of flooded, ruined houses, hanging by a thread, but of the people rebuilding, with quiet determination. I'm scared of water and have experienced floods. I ran away from them as quickly as I could. I admire the tenacity of people who can stay and cope with them.

Here's the link where there are some lovely old photos. Including the one of a young Bob in the beard competition, I think.

http://www.sos.mo.gov/archives/resources/photo.asp

There is a Kansas City in the state of Missouri.

BBM. The study guide you requested: http://www.vectorkids.com/maps.htm

 

[tlcya]

here in IL we call cockleburs cockaburs and that is what we call any sort of weed/plant which when you walk past it, their spiny, pokey little bits come off stuck to your clothing, hair, pet's coat, etc.

 

[zwiebel]

A bur! That's what they're called in England, and the only way I can get them out of my dog's coat is to cut them out. I know what they are. That transatlantic divide isn't so wide after all.

I'm off to do my homework on vectorkids now.

 

[Cubby]

http://bobharrodmissing.com/index.html

The above site has been updated! adding again for those who may have missed the link the first time it was added.

 

[zwiebel]

Thank you Cubby for the link. If it makes a minute of difference in bringing Bob home, I'll be happy.

 

[GrainneDhu]

Thanks so much Grainne for your kindness. I've always used Missouri, but I swear I thought I heard that newscaster on the video say Kansas, so then I started thinking I'd made a mistake, or Kansas must be in Missouri. *Do you have to learn all the states by heart at school in the US? If so, direct me to the homework website!

Regardless of my ignorance, I got my idea of the character of Bob and Fontelle from the Missouri photographic archives. They certainly have some weather there. What struck me wasn't the pictures of flooded, ruined houses, hanging by a thread, but of the people rebuilding, with quiet determination. I'm scared of water and have experienced floods. I ran away from them as quickly as I could. I admire the tenacity of people who can stay and cope with them.

Here's the link where there are some lovely old photos. Including the one of a young Bob in the beard competition, I think.

http://www.sos.mo.gov/archives/resources/photo.asp

Kansas City straddles the Kansas and Missouri borders. It has a major hub airport that serves all of western Missouri and Kansas. Just to make it all confusing, the Kansas City International Airport is actually located in Missouri.

When the news reporter said she'd flown in from Kansas, I assumed she meant the Kansas City airport.

Missouri is like Iowa in that there isn't a form of natural disaster that hasn't hit Missouri in recorded history. Floods are the least of it; plenty of warning there. We also have tornadoes, blizzards, earthquakes (the New Madrid earthquake) and hurricanes (the great Galveston hurricane of 1900 passed right over Missouri and Iowa on its way to the Arctic Ocean).

If we got flustered at every little thing that happened, we'd never have any peace in our lives.

 

[GrainneDhu]

Thank you Cubby for the link. If it makes a minute of difference in bringing Bob home, I'll be happy.

Please convey my congratulations to Mr Z; that page gives the kind of meaty reading that feels like a treasure trove when a case catches my eye. Lays it all out, for everyone to see.

 

[zwiebel]

Kansas City straddles the Kansas and Missouri borders. It has a major hub airport that serves all of western Missouri and Kansas. Just to make it all confusing, the Kansas City International Airport is actually located in Missouri.

When the news reporter said she'd flown in from Kansas, I assumed she meant the Kansas City airport.

Missouri is like Iowa in that there isn't a form of natural disaster that hasn't hit Missouri in recorded history. Floods are the least of it; plenty of warning there. We also have tornadoes, blizzards, earthquakes (the New Madrid earthquake) and hurricanes (the great Galveston hurricane of 1900 passed right over Missouri and Iowa on its way to the Arctic Ocean).

If we got flustered at every little thing that happened, we'd never have any peace in our lives.

Gosh, I'm not sure what to say about that list. The English are famed for always talking about the weather (which I think is quite true, really) but looking at that.....well, leaves on the line have been known to bring our entire rail network to a halt. I think the 'keep calm and carry on' mantra should go alongside the 'show me'.

And I've just realised why 'show me' sounds familiar. That was the name of an old poster here who was banned. What a coincidence.

 

[Laughing]

I am vague on SoCal geography, but this reporter

http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/girardot

would not let go of the Clark Rockefeller/Christopher Chichester/Sohus murder.

Can we interest him in Bob Harrod's story?

I don't use Twitter or FaceBook & don't see an email link this morning...can some modern tech-user send him a message & links?

Thanks!

Laughing

 

[zwiebel]

When I went back to look up that name, I did notice that in a post by CA Exile, he stated: '...Bob lived alone and his car was in the garage'.

The context of his sentence really seems to imply Bob's car was always kept in the garage, as far as he had seen.

CA Exile left Placentia the Monday before Bob disappeared. Fontelle would have been in Missouri then, I believe? Does anyone know if she had been sending packages from MO that might have needed storing, in the week up until Bob disappeared?

The point of me asking is that, if it was true - as CA Exile said - that Bob always parked his car in the garage; then why was Bob's car on the drive the day he disappeared? Surely he hadn't used it that day, what with waiting for JeM and the CL to arrive, and not even having time to make his bed.

The only reason I can think of for Bob changing his parking habits in the week following CA's departure, is if his garage had become too full to get the car in. If that wasn't the case, then I'm back to square one; why was Bob's car parked on his driveway the day he disappeared?

 

[GrainneDhu]

When I went back to look up that name, I did notice that in a post by CA Exile, he stated: '...Bob lived alone and his car was in the garage'.

The context of his sentence really seems to imply Bob's car was always kept in the garage, as far as he had seen.

CA Exile left Placentia the Monday before Bob disappeared. Fontelle would have been in Missouri then, I believe? Does anyone know if she had been sending packages from MO that might have needed storing, in the week up until Bob disappeared?

The point of me asking is that, if it was true - as CA Exile said - that Bob always parked his car in the garage; then why was Bob's car on the drive the day he disappeared? Surely he hadn't used it that day, what with waiting for JeM and the CL to arrive, and not even having time to make his bed.

The only reason I can think of for Bob changing his parking habits in the week following CA's departure, is if his garage had become too full to get the car in. If that wasn't the case, then I'm back to square one; why was Bob's car parked on his driveway the day he disappeared?

I don't have a link but I recall reading that Fontelle had shipped 20-25 or so boxes from Missouri to Placentia. Oddly enough, depending on what you're moving and where you are moving to, it can be much cheaper to ship boxes than to hire a moving company.

I think that is some of what was filling Bob's garage up. I can't imagine Bob opening her boxes before she came back to California. Seems to me to be the sort of task that would take both of them, to decide where to put her things so that the house became their shared home as a couple.

Tangentially: I knew a girlfriend had made a bad choice when her fiance told her that she could have one bookcase for her things in his house after they married. Fortunately, she saw the giant red flags before she actually married him.

 

[Cubby]

Was it the vintage car or his everyday car that he always kept in the garage? I was under the impression it was the vintage car only, but I could be wrong.

 

[zwiebel]

Here is a link to the post I was talking about. CA Exile does seem to believe Bob always parked the car in the garage. He also talks of it being full of stuff. If it had the classic car in there too, it must have been pretty big.

CA Exile also mentions that JuM and JeM would visit about every other week, and they always arrived in JuM's car.

Link: Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - CA - Bob Harrod, 81, Orange County, 27 July 2009 - #2

 

[zwiebel]

I really would like to know if there was room for a vehicle in the garage the day Bob disappeared.

 

[Angelo]

I really would like to know if there was room for a vehicle in the garage the day Bob disappeared.

I don't believe there was.

 

[cloudajo]

On Disappeared's Meet the Missing it now says 'Long Lost Love' on top of Bob's profile. Is it safe to assume that's going to be the final title of his show, does anyone know?

http://investigation.discovery.com/tv-shows/disappeared/meet-the-missing/bob-harrod.htm

I believe so: Long Lost Love.

 

[cloudajo]

I am vague on SoCal geography, but this reporter

http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/girardot

would not let go of the Clark Rockefeller/Christopher Chichester/Sohus murder.

Can we interest him in Bob Harrod's story?

I don't use Twitter or FaceBook & don't see an email link this morning...can some modern tech-user send him a message & links?

Thanks!

Laughing

I found a contact page with his email address:

Frank Girardot
Editor
[email protected]

http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/contactus

 

[zwiebel]

Of course I've never heard of the Rochester/Chichester/Sohus cases and I've tried to resist looking them up in case I go off at a tangent. I haven't lasted very long though. I'm off to see what I can see.

What I cannot see is why Bob's case has gone so quiet in the media. It has everything, as far as I can see; long lost love, joy, tragedy, mystery, money, family feuding and 'characters'. According to the casting call for 'Disappeared', even the ubiquitous attractive blonde makes an appearance. And just because Bob is still missing doesn't mean nothing is happening. A lot has been happening around his estate. I mean, isn't it a story that a lady nearing 80 finds herself struggling to stay in her single marital home, just because her husband is missing and probably a victim of foul play? Even though her husband was a millionaire and a 'mini real-estate mogul' as one article said?

I still find that shocking, myself. It may be legal but it just doesn't seem morally right to me.

 

[zwiebel]

I see, I know his neck of the woods. Christian Gerhardsreiter, a monstrous liar from a part of Germany where they're not known for telling lies but are known for liking money; earnt through their own hard work though, rather than living off others, as he seemed to do. I see your point now Laughing, his story must have taken a lot of unraveling and tracking down.

 

[Angelo]

I found a contact page with his email address:

Frank Girardot
Editor
[email protected]

http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/contactus

I found his phone contact as well.