CA CA - Bob Harrod, 81, Orange County, 27 July 2009 - #14

[Seajay]

I will put my notes up later - Seajay has done a wonderful job! I am sick... I have lost many family members through death (my stepfather in the last week). There is no person I know on Earth that is worth disappearing for $. NONE! I am so sad that these kind of people exist and live in our world. I will try to watch the 11 pm showing also, in case I missed something.

This man said (in his own words!) "Tell them how you feel' (with tears in his eyes.) I don't believe for a minute that this man was heartless, evil, selfish etc. I believe that this man spent most of his life doing what everybody else wanted him to do. When he did what he wanted to do - the wolves came out.

jmo

Thanks mikkismom. I know a missed a bunch of stuff, I was trying to hit the highlights. It would be great if you would add your notes to what I put forth so we have a more comprehensive record here of what was said.

I'm sorry to hear about your loss. I'm still dealing with the loss of both my in laws in a two month period and the aftermath of all that. We had a dispute about their estate as well so this hits close to home in that regard.

 

[zwiebel]

Wow, that photo of Josie at Georgia's memorial (cremains disposed at-sea) was a shocker!

All cuddled-up next to Mr. Harrod, the grieving widower, with her hand on his thigh.

Don't know about the rest of you, but I would not take kindly to such a gesture were I to see a photo of my husband like that!

Inappropriate at best, and worse yet if a woman conducted herself in such a manner with my father at my mother's memorial (as was portrayed further in the re-enactment).

~jmo~

That's not very nice. Especially as you haven't even told us where to see the picture.

 

[Angelo]

Wow, that photo of Josie at Georgia's memorial (cremains disposed at-sea) was a shocker!

All cuddled-up next to Mr. Harrod, the grieving widower, with her hand on his thigh.

Don't know about the rest of you, but I would not take kindly to such a gesture were I to see a photo of my husband like that!

Inappropriate at best, and worse yet if a woman conducted herself in such a manner with my father at my mother's memorial (as was portrayed further in the re-enactment).

~jmo~

Don't mean to be rude but who cares.

Let's talk about the noon arrival of Agnes, the family fight over money and the fact that JuM and JeM did not appear on the show.

 

[mikkismom]

Wow, that photo of Josie at Georgia's memorial (cremains disposed at-sea) was a shocker!

All cuddled-up next to Mr. Harrod, the grieving widower, with her hand on his thigh.

Don't know about the rest of you, but I would not take kindly to such a gesture were I to see a photo of my husband like that!

Inappropriate at best, and worse yet if a woman conducted herself in such a manner with my father at my mother's memorial (as was portrayed further in the re-enactment).

~jmo~

Shana - I guess it's perspective. My stepmother found love after divorcing my father after 30 years. Her husband was awesome! I was so glad to see her like a 'schoolgirl' after raising all of us and working her whole life for us.

My mother passed away 2 1/2 years ago. I hope my stepfather finds that kind of love also.

The smile on Bob's face was priceless! I, personally, know the struggle of staying by a loved ones bedside as they are dying. You want them to go, you want them to stay... It is an extremely difficult time. Goodbye, please stay etc.

jmo

 

[zwiebel]

I will put my notes up later - Seajay has done a wonderful job! I am sick... I have lost many family members through death (my stepfather in the last week). There is no person I know on Earth that is worth disappearing for $. NONE! I am so sad that these kind of people exist and live in our world. I will try to watch the 11 pm showing also, in case I missed something.

This man said (in his own words!) "Tell them how you feel' (with tears in his eyes.) I don't believe for a minute that this man was heartless, evil, selfish etc. I believe that this man spent most of his life doing what everybody else wanted him to do. When he did what he wanted to do - the wolves came out.

jmo

Hugs mikkismom. Thank you for still supporting Bob at this sad time.

 

[shana]

I believe that is exactly what they thought. They wanted Fontelle to believe that Mr. Harrod had run out on her. They hoped Fontelle would go back to Missouri and there would be no questions asked.

Furthermore, the daughters then started posting disparaging things about their father on internet forums to, IMO, keep people from taking an interest in Mr. Harrod's disappearance.

They? Who, Loomis and the PPD?

~jmo~

 

[Angelo]

That's not very nice. Especially as you haven't even told us where to see the picture.

The picture is shown during the Disappeared episode.

 

[Seajay]

It was daughter PB that stated she spoke to her father at 11:30am.

PB has a dog in this fight and her phone call statement is, IMO, not believable.

If JeM arrived at the house around 9:30am and supposedly did some "odd jobs", why did he not know Agnes was coming over?

Thanks Angelo, it was PB, not RB. But like you said, that's not verifiable IMO, and not reliable.

Wasn't there another phone call, at 10:30 am from someone outside the family?

 

[Angelo]

Shana - I guess it's perspective. My stepmother found love after divorcing my father after 30 years. Her husband was awesome! I was so glad to see her like a 'schoolgirl' after raising all of us and working her whole life for us.

My mother passed away 2 1/2 years ago. I hope my stepfather finds that kind of love also.

The smile on Bob's face was priceless! I, personally, know the struggle of staying by a loved ones bedside as they are dying. You want them to go, you want them to stay... It is an extremely difficult time. Goodbye, please stay etc.

jmo

BBM~~~~~~

Beautifully said!

 

[Seajay]

Seajay, I believe you are mixing-up daughters RB and PB in your observations and posts.

~jmo~

Thanks. I had them straight to start with and then got them confused with the going back and forth. The show was going faster than I could type.

 

[Angelo]

Thanks Angelo, it was PB, not RB. But like you said, that's not verifiable IMO, and not reliable.

Wasn't there another phone call, at 10:30 am from someone outside the family?

I believe the call was around 10am. I have wondered if that may have been Agnes asking if she could come that day, (Monday) instead of her usual Tuesday.

 

[Seajay]

Of note: Fontelle's family is also excluded from the Reward.

~jmo~

I guess they would be, but I don't think they ever knew anything since they were several states away and weren't around for any of this. Unless they talked to Bob on the phone and he told them things others didn't know. Fontelle's family is totally out of this. IMO.

 

[shana]

Didn't you say earlier the narration wasn't in the episode, shana?

No, that is NOT what I said.

~jmo~

 

[scorekeeper]

(((mikkismom)))

sorry for your loss

 

[shana]

I believe the call was around 10am. I have wondered if that may have been Agnes asking if she could come that day, (Monday) instead of her usual Tuesday.

Could have been Agnes. It was HER idea to change the day from her usual, not Mr Harrod's.

~jmo~

 

[Angelo]

This sort of programming is not atypical. Essentially it means that, for example:

I can watch the earlier airing at 5pm Pacific while at the very same time my friend in NYC can watch the earlier airing for her zone at 8pm Eastern. We can do the same thing again at 8 pm Pacific/11pm Eastern for the later (2nd) airing. Neither one of us gets to see the program first.

With reference to other posts concerning Timelines, it is not unusual for LE not to release a TL in an ongoing investigation. If you cobble one together from various media reports, you will need frequent revisions, such as what has been done here and may be needed after the narration of the upcoming "Disappeared" omits the earlier preview information stating that Agnes arrived at noon. Personally, I would not have ever depended on that info being accurate, but to each hir own. ;->

~jmo~

Shana, why did you believe the noon time was going to be omitted?

 

[Seajay]

They? Who, Loomis and the PPD?

~jmo~

They, as in the daughters, I believe is what Angelo was getting at.

 

[shana]

I guess they would be, but I don't think they ever knew anything since they were several states away and weren't around for any of this. Unless they talked to Bob on the phone and he told them things others didn't know. Fontelle's family is totally out of this. IMO.

Are you sure that none of them live in CA?

~jmo~

 

[zwiebel]

Shana, I think you need to get verified as an insider <modsnip>

 

[zwiebel]

So, the houseeper says she arrived at 12noon.

Just to give newcomers a taster, here is a timeline of when Bob went missing, compiled from statements by Bob's daughter, JuM. She is the wife of the son-in-law who was working in Bob's house the day he disappeared, and who must have known approximately when he left the house. And know approximately when he got back and noticed Bob was missing.

11am - JuM told Mrs Harrod this in a phone call, according to Mrs Harrod.

10am - a posting on a website by someone claiming to be JuM (rimoftheworld)

Maybe one? Noon? - JuM in an interview with ktl TV.

Unknown time - JuM told Mrs Harrod that son-in-law had seen a very suspicious car driving by Bob's house for 10 minutes, and Bob probably got in it.

Meanwhile....the cleaning lady says she arrived around 12 and Bob was gone then, and son-in-law was just returning to the house. And son-in-law told her Bob must have gone to see a neighbour.

Son-in-law is widely reported in the media, via police statements, to have produced a receipt for 3.04pm from Home Depot as establishing where he was when Bob went missing?

Later that night, son-in-law's SON tells police there had been fighting in the family and Bob probably left because of that.

Summary: Bob disappeared at 10am, 11am, 12pm, 1pm and 3pm.
He got into a suspicious car, he left because he was frustrated at family fighting, he went to see a neighbour.