CA CA - Bob Harrod, 81, Orange County, 27 July 2009 - #16

[believe09]

I love the idea of a sculpture from metal medical parts -I'm fascinated by the mix of medicine and art and have seen some wonderful exhibitions.

Me too-I also like the weird recycling aspect of it all.

 

[zwiebel]

San Bernardino County Sheriff's Office is holding a protect and serve event tonight. It's to raise funds for a fallen officer and an injured officer. I wonder if any of Bob's family will use this opportunity to support the families of their local law enforcement, and maybe hand out a few flyers for Bob at the same time? With his anniversary so close, it would be a shame to miss the chance.

http://www.sbcounty.gov/Uploads/CAO/Feature/Content/66ers_Benefit_Registration.pdf

ETA: Whoops. Amend all the above to the past tense. It was yesterday.

 

[sreshowtime]

thank you- hope you don't mind me piggybacking off the other posters for that one...
gonna be a busy week

 

[zwiebel]

There is another event, the day before Bob's anniversary. But I'm not sure I'd hand out flyers there - maybe this is Kimster's kind of fishing? I've never heard of it.

http://www.sbcounty.gov/uploads/cao/feature/content/cosmic_fishing_flyer.pdf

 

[Oriah]

Zwie, your post made me think of something - why don't we get police2police fax Mr. Harrod to all the hotels, motels, busineses, etc on their anniversary? I've got to check into that. I couldn't open your link, but for some reason it made me think of that, so thanks!

 

[zwiebel]

Glad it gave you an idea. You are probably better off not seeing the link anyhow - it's fluorescent. A 'cosmic' fishing event...at night??

ETA: Cucamonga- Guasti Regional Park.

 

[zwiebel]

I found all these old brochures for CA tract homes that someone's put online. If you scroll down there are Placentia ones advertized that look very, very similar to Bob's. I think the same company may have built his, and some of these plans might accurately represent the plan of the house Bob disappeared from in 2009.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/teamperks/sets/72157603381902237

*My patient's sleeping peacefully now, the op went fine. He was more distressed about not knowing the exact number of metal parts he has now, than any pain. I'm in shock though - I'm from England, where we don't have hospital bills. Is THAT how much an ambulance costs!!!

 

[zwiebel]

I've also asked an English angler friend of mine about cosmic fishing. He told me to stop being such a ruddy fool.

 

[Cubby]

Every day I am reminded someone knows where Bob is currently located and isn't telling. Someone knows and keeps that dark dirty secret which could erase some of the pain of not knowing where Bob is located for the last four years.

Someone, who is a coward, stole something that is not theirs and will face justice. If not in this world, in the next.

On kind of an ot note, I recently finished reading, "Heaven is for Real" by Todd Burpo. It reminded me of all of those who are watching over us from heaven and those who we will someday meet in the next life.

Bob knows, Georgia knows, all of both of their families know who is responsible and how Bob disappeared.

The person(s) responsible should know, NOTHING is hidden. not.a.thing. and all will be revealed.

Praying justice comes for Bob soon and he is brought home soon.

 

[zwiebel]

Something is gaining momentum and gathering steam around Bob's case. I hope it helps bring him home. Maybe justice will arrive first, and we'll see an arrest in this case, who knows?

I think if we do see an arrest, the location of Bob will quickly be discovered. That's my feeling, anyhow. And my hope.

 

[zwiebel]

I heard on Tricia's true crime radio show that assault with a deadly weapon isn't classed as a violent crime in California. This seems the height of oddness to me, so I've tried to find out why. I haven't got far because I can't find out what a deadly weapon is. Does anyone know if it's just a gun, or can it be something else too?

ETA: It's anything from a dog to a pencil, apparently. If it's used violently. But it's not a crime of violence......this one's really confuddled me. I think it's going to remain a mystery. I'm sure folks in California have the commonsense to judge what's violent and what's not, anyhow.

http://www.shouselaw.com/assault-weapon.html#what

 

[zwiebel]

I also heard on the show Mark Klaas say about another case here that he didn't think it would ever be solved. I have the greatest respect for him but it did make me feel the same as when I read Bob's neighbour's last blog, where he seemed to have given up hope.

I know some people are never found - but Bob never had a fair chance, as far as I'm concerned. He didn't have the searches, the vigils, the family out there begging and pestering media and the community to highlight his case. He didn't really have the police appealing for the public to come forward with info either, because there was so much confusion at the beginning. He did have Mrs Harrod, but she was at a distinct disadvantage, being so new to California, and the family.

Other people get all that and they ARE found eventually. I don't see why Bob shouldn't have that too. It's not fair to even think of giving up until Bob's had those opportunities too, I think. And it's an absolute shame that his own children don't appear to have held a single event for him in all these years.....but hopefully I'll have to eat my words on July 27th this year........

 

[believe09]

Bob will be found. Of that I am completely confident.

However, he doesnt need to be found for someone to be held responsible, either in the justice system or the court of public opinion.

The thing is, having him declared dead doesnt make all of this go away. Sure the clock is ticking and we have seen the co conservators take the steps to put this into motion, but there are two sides to that coin. When Bob is declared dead, a wrongful death case can be filed and can proceed. So even if there isnt traditional justice for Bob, there will be some.

But Bob will be found. I am positive.

 

[zwiebel]

Has anyone in the US heard of this site please? Or is it just a European thing?

http://www.pr-inside.com/categories.htm

 

[zwiebel]

August 26, 2011:

'The man's (Bob) assets are frozen in a trust'

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2011...in-disappearance-of-placentia-millionaire-81/

Really? This was stated by a reporter in an article just over two years after Bob disappeared, who spoke to Mrs Harrod and Detective Loomis. Could it possibly be either of them who told the reporter Bob's assets were frozen?

By this date hadn't; two daughters been appointed paid conservators, one daughter stopped paying her rent to Bob's estate, grandson stopped repaying his loan, a reward been offered, a court case against the hairdresser been brought and lost, a PI/bodyguard been hired and lawyers been hired for negotiations with Mrs Harrod, all from Bob's assets? As well, hadn't daughters 'agreed' to pay Mrs Harrod an allowance from the assets (even though they seemed to try and backtrack on that a little afterwards)?

That's probably only a partial list of all the activity that has gone on around Bob's estate since a few days after he disappeared. Surely that can't be classed as frozen? What about the removal of his home contents? If it was Det Loomis who told the reporter that, it makes me worry LE aren't fully aware of who gained from Bob's death, and who lost.

 

[Opie]

zwiebel, let's hope it's just a case of what happens too often with media articles. Could be lack of more complete information, an assumption based on incomplete or incorrect comments made, or just poor reporting without verification of material before printing.

Anyway, in light of all the things you listed, it makes little sense to say assets were frozen.

 

[zwiebel]

I'm glad I'm not the only one Opie, because that's not my idea of frozen at all. I doubt the journalist just came up with that phrase out of thin air; so I do think someone, somewhere, said it, and it was just repeated without question.

I would have loved it if a financial journalist had been on the receiving end of that 'frozen assets' remark - the ensuing story would have been a few pages longer, I should think.

In the end, Bob's money and other assets will be dispersed, and the trust will be drained, and there will be a trail of who got what, and when. So in the end I suppose everyone will know who got what, and when. Hopefully, Bob will be home long before that so I won't have to think about it or care. I just hate the way all along daughters seem to have tried to give the impression money is the last thing on their minds, when (I think) it's obvious it was always the overriding concern for them. And they have criticized Bob for the very traits that they have shown, again and again.

I wish they'd just been honest from the start - that they wanted their Mom and Dad's money. There's nothing I essentially object to in that, people want what they want. I just hate the way Bob Harrod, missing person, seemed to become collateral damage in the quest for it. There was just no need or reason for it. It isn't Bob's fault he was disappeared and never will be, no matter what people say.

Horrible. Shrug. Never mind. Once Bob is brought safely home, it will all come right in the end. I'm hitching my wagon to believe's - it's going to happen.

 

[zwiebel]

O/T Mr Z's out of hospital tomorrow, save a wish for us - he's not allowed a wheelchair as he has to keep on his feet but he is so, so clumsy. The hospital pinched his plaster too, which is really annoying as we'd written Bob Harrod Missing on it and I wanted to take a photo.

 

[zwiebel]

Does anyone remember how in all the chaos of the accident, I said I rushed into a store and saw a gift pack that said (in german) where is Bob? And I said I would go back and buy it and take a pic?

Well I did, but I forgot to post it. And it didn't say 'where is Bob', it said 'Wer ist Bob' - that's 'who is Bob'. It is a bottle of pear and lemonade drink with a glass, in a box. And I can't find any explanation as to why it says that, but it does. The photo of the text is in my photo album but I can't work out how to link it here - sorry! Look in my album if you want to see it. It's just going to have to remain an unfathomable German mystery, but I'm taking it as a good omen.

ETA - it's in my photo album here, so I think you can click on my name to get to it.

 

[zwiebel]

Good morning Mr Harrod.
On this date in 2009 (a Saturday) you had only two more days until someone disappeared you. But you didn't know. You were busy preparing for your wife's return on Wednesday, and an important family meeting you had to attend tomorrow. It was to discuss your will and estate with your three daughters.

Locally, on this day in 2009;
The housing market was recovering although salvation still seemed a long time away for those who had overextended themselves:
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/foreclosures-26449-percent-county.html
The Orange County Fair which had begun July 10 was still in full swing:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Jst50UpwjKY&desktop_uri=/watch?v=Jst50UpwjKY
Today was also the last day for OC residents to use their free landfill permits- and Monday 27th mattresses and boxsprings would no longer be accepted at solid waste convenience centers. Were you thinking of changing yours, Mr Harrod? Were you hoping someone could take an old one away for you first thing Monday, and beat the deadline?
http://www.carrborocitizen.com/main/2009/07/09/new-landfill-rules/
Swine flu, which had broken out in CA in March, had killed 11 Orange County residents by this day, and a jail had been placed on lockdown because of a new outbreak. Did you see your doctor for a flu jab, Mr Harrod? Is that when he noticed how healthy you were?
http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-303971

In the larger world, the death of Michael Jackson was still making headlines, a month to the day since he died:
http://www.metrolyrics.com/2009-mic...cret-son-admits-close-family-friend-news.html
Which largely eclipsed the one-month anniversary of the death of Farrah Fawcett:
http://myfriended.wordpress.com/tag/farrah-fawcett/
President Obama was still beating the drum for health insurance reform, meanwhile:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press...rance-Reform-Will-Strengthen-Small-Businesses