CA CA - Bob Harrod, 81, Orange County, 27 July 2009 - # 9

[Angelo]

What a sweet story. I can almost taste the pastries. See in your case Grainne, you and your siblings main interest is your father's happiness. Sadly, in Mr. Harrod's case his happiness was of no interest to his children, sil and grandson. They might say they were interested in their father's happiness but there are no actions, none, to support such a statement.

Bob was seen as a means to an inheritance. Anything which stood in the way of receiving that inheritance was a threat. The hairdresser had nothing to gain by Mr. Harrod's disappearance. Any gifts she received were stopped by his disappearance.

Additionally, Mr. Harrod remarrying was a liability to the inheritiance. Mr. Harrod marrying anyone who might out live him was a HUGE liability to the funds these greedy vultures expected. Too risky to get rid of his wife, plus he would have choices, if he were still living.

The only thing to prevent Bob from depleting his daughters, sil and grandsons perceived inheritance was to get rid of the person who could spend his own money, Bob.

It's all crystal clear when looking at the entire picture and all the known facts. Not the bit's and pieces of bs the daughters toss out to deliberate muddy the waters.

The day will come when PPD puts this case to bed and I'm willing to bet money more than one family member will be doing some serious prison time. IMO, all five will do time, two of whom will probably do less than the other three.

:goodpost:

 

[Angelo]

When the Disappeared episode about Mr. Harrod airs, it will be interesting to see if JeM and JuM participated in the show.

 

[suzyq211]

When the Disappeared episode about Mr. Harrod airs, it will be interesting to see if JeM and JuM participated in the show.

Well, I would assume they would since JeM was the last to see him, and JuM was in the house the next day, correct? I mean, if there was nothing to hide...?

 

[gitana1]

Let’s picture it.

• The daughters claim they left Bob’s house on “good terms” the day before Bob went missing.
• 80 year old Bob has been missing for approximately 9 hours when welfare check is made by daughter RB (assuming housekeeper arrived about Noon and welfare check was called in at about 9PM or so).
• None of the 3 daughters or SIL drive to Bob’s that evening – instead, Bob's grandson AH goes or is sent to let the PPD in for welfare check.
• The reporter who interviewed daughter JuM the day after Bob went missing, states JuM “fears the worst,” insists her father has never done this, she said his knees are bad, he can barely walk for more than two blocks, and is showing signs of dementia.
• JuM states in the interview, “Our father means the world to us.”
• Daughter RB posted that Bob's SIL JeM was "like the son Mom & Dad never had."
• SIL JeM does not return to Bob’s house.

http://www.ktla.com/videobeta/watch/?watch=ac85bbd7-919c-45df-8bff-de9407f59354&src=front

Believe just sucked me in a bit to this case. Just watched the video. My impression? Oh my gosh. They killed him. That woman speaking is in on it. :twocents:

Caveat: I just learned a few facts of the case and then watched the video.

 

[gitana1]

Would someone be willing to tell me what all the initials stand for in the case? I'm trying to get up to speed to I can hopefully answer some legal questions for you guys. BTW, this is only a couple miles from my house (where Bob lived).

Is anyone fighting against the vultures who are trying to suck Bob's estate dry? If so, who? Who are the players in this case?

 

[believe09]

Would someone be willing to tell me what all the initials stand for in the case? I'm trying to get up to speed to I can hopefully answer some legal questions for you guys. BTW, this is only a couple miles from my house (where Bob lived).

Is anyone fighting against the vultures who are trying to suck Bob's estate dry? If so, who? Who are the players in this case?

LOL, gitana1. The case is being vigorously litigated, although Bob's wife has chosen to be reactive to the flurry of nonsense filed by the co conservators. I sent you a PM with some of the names of the players.

What do you think about a petition to try and compel Mrs Harrod to pay rent in the marital home?

 

[believe09]

Did he have a key of his own (or did his wife) or did he use his son's?

~jmo~

I guess the question is whether or not there were spare keys and who had them. Remember, Bob was estranged from his family and had paid them to stay away from him. I doubt he let them hold onto keys to his home, but that is a guess.

 

[believe09]

I am going back to the keys again.

Where are Bob's wallet and keys? I guess the implication is that he took them with him. OK, where is his checkbook and other miscellaneous things he was known to carry. It was hot that day and Bob was bald. Where is his hat?

The keys, the keys, the keys....

 

[shana]

I guess the question is whether or not there were spare keys and who had them. Remember, Bob was estranged from his family and had paid them to stay away from him. I doubt he let them hold onto keys to his home, but that is a guess.

Yep, that's the question.

We know that grandson AH had a key or access to one, in order to open the house for the officers on the welfare check.

Who locked-up after the housekeeper finished? hmm

Who let JuM into the house to change the linens the following day or did she bring her 'own' key? double hmm

~jmo~

 

[shana]

I am going back to the keys again.

Where are Bob's wallet and keys? I guess the implication is that he took them with him. OK, where is his checkbook and other miscellaneous things he was known to carry. It was hot that day and Bob was bald. Where is his hat?

The keys, the keys, the keys....

Basic setup. I'm guessing that 'someone' knew or figured that Bob typically took his wallet (and of course his keys) when he went for his morning walk, or that he would certainly take both if he left home willingly as in going-off with a friend who just happened to drive-by. :-o

There's a good possibility he was not in the habit of carrying a checkbook, preferring to pay with cash or plastic instead.

Excellent question about his hat, especially if there was one he usually wore and it was found among his possessions in the home.

(Hoping my posts don't annoy or sound too unclued...I'm trying to catch-up with all of you fabulous sleuths!)

~jmo~

 

[shefner]

I agree with you, gitana! The woman on the video is guilty of something related to this case. Eeby geebies!

 

[Cubby]

I guess the question is whether or not there were spare keys and who had them. Remember, Bob was estranged from his family and had paid them to stay away from him. I doubt he let them hold onto keys to his home, but that is a guess.

That doesn't mean they didn't have a set of spare keys Mr. Harrod was unaware of, or that the SIL picked up Bob's key's the day of his disappearance to make it appear as if Mr. Harrod left with his key's.

Personally, I've always believed the SIL walked off with Bob's key's that day and that is how his wife was able to enter Bob's home the day following his disappearance.

ETA: IMO, the SIL had a spare key and entered the home the morning of Bob's disappearance without Mr. Harrod's knowledge - surprising him.


Speculation, but it is what I believe.

 

[shana]

That doesn't mean they didn't have a set of spare keys Mr. Harrod was unaware of, or that the SIL picked up Bob's key's the day of his disappearance.

Personally, I've always believed the SIL walked off with Bob's key's that day and that is how his wife was able to enter Bob's home the day following his disappearance.

Does Home Depot have a locksmith or key-duplicating service?

A quick netsearch says Yes.

Sure would be good to see the itemized receipt of JeM's purchases.

~jmo~

 

[believe09]

How about a trusted neighbor? I wish I knew more about the welfare check...if the family had keys, why wouldnt they just drive over or have AH walk over and go into the house to see if Bob was there?

So many questions...I am leaning towards AH, RB and PB at least having no keys.

 

[Cubby]

Believe just sucked me in a bit to this case. Just watched the video. My impression? Oh my gosh. They killed him. That woman speaking is in on it. :twocents:

Caveat: I just learned a few facts of the case and then watched the video.

That woman is Mr. Harrod's youngest daughter, Julie Michaels, wife of Jeff Michaels the last (known) person to see Bob alive. JeM was allegedly doing odd jobs and handy man jobs at Mr. Harrod's, even though those odd jobs have remained top secret never being revealed.

She (JuM) is also the author of the 'mile long' memorabilia list which she claims to have written from memory.

Oh, and she spent the entire day at Mr. Harrod's to "change the linens" and get the house ready for Mrs. Harrod the day following her fathers disappearance, even though his housekeeper was there the afternoon he disappeared.

link to the memorabilia list:

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - CA CA - Bob Harrod-Documents No discussion

 

[shefner]

I just loved that, "...and I'm going to be right here to greet his new wife when she gets here...and I wish daddy was with me." Uggghhhh.....

 

[Cubby]

Basic setup. I'm guessing that 'someone' knew or figured that Bob typically took his wallet (and of course his keys) when he went for his morning walk, or that he would certainly take both if he left home willingly as in going-off with a friend who just happened to drive-by. :-o

There's a good possibility he was not in the habit of carrying a checkbook, preferring to pay with cash or plastic instead.

Excellent question about his hat, especially if there was one he usually wore and it was found among his possessions in the home.

(Hoping my posts don't annoy or sound too unclued...I'm trying to catch-up with all of you fabulous sleuths!)

~jmo~

Keep in mind the housekeeper stated in the clip from the upcoming Disappeared show, Mr. Harrod's bed was unmade, and that was something she had not seen previously in the 10 or so years she had been employed by the Harrod family.

If Mr. Harrod did not have time to make his bed, he would not have had time for his morning walk. Which, imo, means someone had to remove the key's and wallet to make it appears as if Mr. Harrod left with both.

Also, as far as we know, sil JeM has never disclosed where he discarded the used materials from the odd jobs/handy man jobs he did at Bob's house the day of his disappearance.

 

[Cubby]

I just loved that, "...and I'm going to be right here to greet his new wife when she gets here...and I wish daddy was with me." Uggghhhh.....

Ugghhh is right, JuM said that? I have never seen the video with sound. Don't know that I could stomach the sound of her voice. Anyhoo, if she was greeting Mrs. Harrod, I doubt it was a friendly welcoming greeting.

 

[shefner]

Ugghhh is right, JuM said that? I have never seen the video with sound. Don't know that I could stomach the sound of her voice. Anyhoo, if she was greeting Mrs. Harrod, I doubt it was a friendly welcoming greeting.

Yep...that's what she said, in the most syrupy sweet voice you've ever heard. Be glad your speakers are blown.

 

[Cubby]

How about a trusted neighbor? I wish I knew more about the welfare check...if the family had keys, why wouldnt they just drive over or have AH walk over and go into the house to see if Bob was there?

So many questions...I am leaning towards AH, RB and PB at least having no keys.

BBM. I agree JuM and JeM would not have made it known to AH, RB and PB, if they had key's to Bob's home.