Deceased/Not Found CA - Heidi Planck, 39, left son’s football game in Downey, dog found in Los Angeles, 17 Oct 2021 #5

[NCWatcher]

Excellent writeups, Watcher. You wrote:

JW goes, he had reason to suspect something was wrong pretty quickly. He said HP was usually in contact with him when he had BW. He said it was odd HP had stopped responding to BW's texts on Sunday, the 17th.

Here's the issue I have with this. JW knew she left the game early, perhaps without so much as a goodbye. Proudly, BW texts Heidi about his complimentary football moves. Heidi does not respond to the one true love of her life, BW. She is silent. When JW knew BW was not receiving a reply, that should have been a huge waving Red Flag. Any further unanswered texts should have reinforced the warning.

What time was BWs first text to his mother on Sunday after his fb game? TIA
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Thanks @DeDee.

I don't really know the timeline re: the after-game texts on Sunday the 17th. I don't know that any of us do. We know HP did respond once but we don't what time that was because the screenshot of her text JW supplied doesn't show the time not does he specify the time in interviews.But supposedly her text was in response to one from BW talking about the outcome of the game. And we know she did not respond after that one text according to JW. So what communication there was, happened early on Sunday evening/late afternoon (assuming JW is being truthful. And if he's not, LE would know.)

Also, JW said HP did say good-bye when she left the game.

A 39-year-old mother has been missing from Los Angeles for more than 6 weeks. Her ex-husband believes her disappearance may be connected to her job in finance.

 

[Meligator]

Excellent writeups, Watcher. You wrote:

JW goes, he had reason to suspect something was wrong pretty quickly. He said HP was usually in contact with him when he had BW. He said it was odd HP had stopped responding to BW's texts on Sunday, the 17th.

Here's the issue I have with this. JW knew she left the game early, perhaps without so much as a goodbye. Proudly, BW texts Heidi about his complimentary football moves. Heidi does not respond to the one true love of her life, BW. She is silent. When JW knew BW was not receiving a reply, that should have been a huge waving Red Flag. Any further unanswered texts should have reinforced the warning.

What time was BWs first text to his mother on Sunday after his fb game? TIA
.

yes, I wish we knew the time of her text to BW! Seems important!

 

[Curiousobserver]

I don't think Heidi was really dressed for a party....she was just wearing what I would term "general Sunday casual wear" in the last camera footage....no doubt the same attire she wore to watch her son's football match.

And she brought the dog... to a party? I don't think so. Perhaps to pick something up, but not to party.

 

[SteveP]

Three weeks ago, today, investigators began searching a specific area of the Chiquita Canyon Landfill, in a search they originally stated may take up to 10 days to complete. I know that locals have commented that there have been some stormy days that probably necessitated that the search be called off some days, but are investigators still searching there at this point? I really felt like they, or the media, may release a statement when they finish up, but perhaps not. If they are still searching, would you perceive that as a good sign, or a bad sign? Surely, at some point, an unproductive search would have to be ended.

 

[Cloudydiamond]

Three weeks ago, today, investigators began searching a specific area of the Chiquita Canyon Landfill, in a search they originally stated may take up to 10 days to complete. I know that locals have commented that there have been some stormy days that probably necessitated that the search be called off some days, but are investigators still searching there at this point? I really felt like they, or the media, may release a statement when they finish up, but perhaps not. If they are still searching, would you perceive that as a good sign, or a bad sign? Surely, at some point, an unproductive search would have to be ended.

They won't mention it unless they recovered something? They should mention if the search has ended even if they found nothing. I don't remember how long they searched the landfill in the Jennifer Dulos case, but it was long. I do believe they said when it ended. And today, 2.5 years later they searched where her SUV was...but that was short and quick today. It's too quiet. I don't like where my mind is taking me in this case. Seems a big tangled web of possibilities who is involved.

 

[rosesfromangels]

And she brought the dog... to a party? I don't think so. Perhaps to pick something up, but not to party.

This is a key point. You are right; that doesn't add up. At all.
Strange case, with a long list of eyebrow raising cast of characters.

Amateur opinion and speculation

 

[NCWatcher]

And she brought the dog... to a party? I don't think so. Perhaps to pick something up, but not to party.

Probably not.

However, IF HP really did have a dog sitter in the building because she had a romantic relationship with someone there (and we don't know if that claim is true) maybe she would have brought the dog. Particularly if she thought she'd be out very late at a party or maybe even out all night. Dogs can't just be left at home alone with big water and food bowls for 12-24 hours the way cats can.
JMO

 

[StarRemy8]

They won't mention it unless they recovered something? They should mention if the search has ended even if they found nothing. I don't remember how long they searched the landfill in the Jennifer Dulos case, but it was long. I do believe they said when it ended. And today, 2.5 years later they searched where her SUV was...but that was short and quick today. It's too quiet. I don't like where my mind is taking me in this case. Seems a big tangled web of possibilities who is involved.

Very good point about the Dulos case thanks for bringing that up. I followed that closely and I think you’re correct that they make a statement it had ended. What that means here I’m not clear of but you are correct that it’s been too quiet after making the search announcement and it’s a tangled web.

 

[DeDee]

It seems there should be an announcement soon by the Investigators, LEO, the DAs Office or from some agency.

Everyone still wants to know why Heidi's son has lost his pretty mother at such an early age.

Thing is, that Heidi's tiny in the petite sort of way. She was not malnourished. Looking good. Her bones are small in stature. The searchers would have to be so thorough in the tiniest of details that may indicate something could be from HP. The skull, jawline, spine, would be ideal.

I liked seeing the K9s present for some of the earlier searches and hoped that was natural. Their noses, the trained K9s, can sift through all sorts of odors, even vinegar, bleach, or ammonia, in order to smell death of a human. Sometimes the smell of death is deep in the ground but can be distinguished by the dogs' snouts.

Cannot imagine someone placing my unconscious body down some 41 floors via a trash chute that then, possibly ended being placed in the C Landfill. It's been 3 weeks since their initiating the landfill search, right? Poor Heidi.

I need to go back to our Jeopardy contestant's post for the encyclopedia written about trash smashing on site at the Hope Bldg. What a tragedy. She's a mother, sister, cousin, daughter friend, lover. Come on Heidi, give it up so we can locate you.

As Joe Friday would apt to say, "Just the facts, ma'am." Just tell us the truth. We can handle it.

#JusticeForHeidi

 

[NCWatcher]

I thought I read that JW/BW asked a friend of HPs, with a key, to check on HP on Monday (18th), but friend stated HP wasn’t home and no car. Not sure why that didn’t trigger more intense looking/police calling. Or maybe it did. Maybe JS went over there b/c people were calling him asking him if he’d seen Heidi.

The LA Mag story (link below) said a friend went to HP's house while JW went to the police station on the 20th. The implication is that JW sent ("dispatched") the friend to check the house. The article says the friend reported Heidi, Seven and the car were gone.

I've not seen that info about the friend checking the house while JW went to LE anywhere else that I recall. (I have read JW and a friend checked the house together but I think that was on the 21st.) I certainly have not read he sent anyone to check the house on the 18th. That would be reasonable IMO if it really was unprecedented for HP to be out of contact with BW for 24 hours. But that level of concern on JW's part doesn't really mesh with everything else JW has said about what happened from the 17th through the 19th. And the mag story has several known errors so I don't know if the statement about "dispatching a friend" to her house is accurate.

But the timeline is murky anyway. For example, JW says he called the SF boyfriend (NS-- a "super nice guy" per JW) after reporting HP missing. IF JW had the guy's personal phone number (kind of odd IMO) why not call him before calling LE? IF she'd been dating him for 3 years, it seems reasonable to think he might have known where HP was. (Of course he didn't know but JW couldn't have known that.)

https://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog...-bizarre-mystery-of-missing-mom-heidi-planck/

 

[Meligator]

The LA Mag story (link below) said a friend went to HP's house while JW went to the police station on the 20th. The implication is that JW sent ("dispatched") the friend to check the house. The article says the friend reported Heidi, Seven and the car were gone.

I've not seen that info about the friend checking the house while JW went to LE anywhere else that I recall. (I have read JW and a friend checked the house together but I think that was on the 21st.) I certainly have not read he sent anyone to check the house on the 18th. That would be reasonable IMO if it really was unprecedented for HP to be out of contact with BW for 24 hours. But that level of concern on JW's part doesn't really mesh with everything else JW has said about what happened from the 17th through the 19th. And the mag story has several known errors so I don't know if the statement about "dispatching a friend" to her house is accurate.

But the timeline is murky anyway. For example, JW says he called the SF boyfriend (NS-- a "super nice guy" per JW) after reporting HP missing. IF JW had the guy's personal phone number (kind of odd IMO) why not call him before calling LE? IF she'd been dating him for 3 years, it seems reasonable to think he might have known where HP was. (Of course he didn't know but JW couldn't have known that.)

https://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog...-bizarre-mystery-of-missing-mom-heidi-planck/

Found it. It was during an interview of JW and HP’s friend DN on Nancy Grace. DN says that BW texted her worried about his mom—(DN had key to HP house). DN went over there “Monday or Tuesday” to check on her. That would have been 18 or 19th.

 

[NCWatcher]

Found it. It was during an interview of JW and HP’s friend DN on Nancy Grace. DN says that BW texted her worried about his mom—(DN had key to HP house). DN went over there “Monday or Tuesday” to check on her. That would have been 18 or 19th.

Ah. Thanks. I never saw that interview. (NG gets on my nerves and has since her coverage of "Tot Mom.") So BW had DN's cell number stored in his phone?

Then the LA Mag story about a friend checking the house while JW went to the police station on the 20th may not be true. Not that the house might not be checked more than once but if she wasn't home on the 18th or 19th when DN checked, why check again on the 20th? She hadn't responded to calls or texts. Did they think she just came home and took a nap? So I wonder if there really was a friend house check on the 18/19 and another on the 20th.

The whole story is odd but it seems especially odd there are multiple differing accts of the simplest things. How and when did JW find the dog? (The dog-finders might have reason to be vague but why would JW?) When was the house checked and who checked it?

JMO

 

[SteveP]

I fear if LE do not find Heidi in the next couple days, they may not find her for a while yet, if at all. I would think some investigators will be taking time off for the holidays, and there may not be adequate staff to resume the landfill search until after the first of the year. If that proves to be the case, who knows if they will continue, especially if they have found nothing helpful to the case by then.

I do feel for her son, who whether she is found by then, or not, must get through Christmas knowing he will never have the joy of sharing another one with his mom.

 

[Countem]

New article from the Daily Mail (FWIW)

Edit to add: Not much new information, as it mainly is about JS and his business dealings. The media is grasping at straws at this point, but if it keeps Heidi’s name in the media, so be it, IMO.

HB did business with missing mom HP’s 'fraudster boss', emails show | Daily Mail Online

• Emails from HB's abandoned laptop show the president's son was in business with JS, the boss of missing accountant HP
• HP, 39, was last seen in Los Angeles on October 17
• JS was a director and 'key shareholder' of Burnham Financial Group, which pitched a major deal to HB’s Chinese business partners in 2015
• JS is under investigation by the SEC over a fraudulent scheme that swindled $43million out of pension funds between 2014 and 2016
• HB’s friend and business partner in his controversial deals with the Chinese, DA, was convicted in 2018 for his involvement in the $43M grift
• Emails obtained by DailyMail.com show DA introduced JS to HB’s Chinese partner JL, arranging a meeting in Beijing

 

[JnRyan]

New article from the Daily Mail (FWIW)

Edit to add: Not much new information, as it mainly is about JS and his business dealings. The media is grasping at straws at this point, but if it keeps Heidi’s name in the media, so be it, IMO.

HB did business with missing mom HP’s 'fraudster boss', emails show | Daily Mail Online

• Emails from HB's abandoned laptop show the president's son was in business with JS, the boss of missing accountant HP
• HP, 39, was last seen in Los Angeles on October 17
• JS was a director and 'key shareholder' of Burnham Financial Group, which pitched a major deal to HB’s Chinese business partners in 2015
• JS is under investigation by the SEC over a fraudulent scheme that swindled $43million out of pension funds between 2014 and 2016
• HB’s friend and business partner in his controversial deals with the Chinese, DA, was convicted in 2018 for his involvement in the $43M grift
• Emails obtained by DailyMail.com show DA introduced JS to HB’s Chinese partner JL, arranging a meeting in Beijing

Oh boy! This should spice things up rather nicely. How much is evidence of wrong doing and how much helps to garner readership might be interesting. I have to admit it does make for interesting reading. An actual criminal case? Or is there a plot to a future fictional movie here?

 

[whitelilac]

I fear if LE do not find Heidi in the next couple days, they may not find her for a while yet, if at all. I would think some investigators will be taking time off for the holidays, and there may not be adequate staff to resume the landfill search until after the first of the year. If that proves to be the case, who knows if they will continue, especially if they have found nothing helpful to the case by then.

I do feel for her son, who whether she is found by then, or not, must get through Christmas knowing he will never have the joy of sharing another one with his mom.

I hesitate to say this, but I don't think they are looking for a body. If the trash was compacted at the transfer station, or even at the H&F if such is done there, they are looking for remains. Those remains may be extremely difficult to find amongst all the other material. It's likely that they have to do forensic investigation, including DNA testing, of anything they suspect or determine to be organic or have been alive, even animals. This MAY be in progress, and could take an enormous amount of time.

I so wish this to be solved, one way or the other, for her loved ones' sakes. And that if Heidi was intentionally harmed that there will be justice. It's such a complicated case, I wonder if there will ever be a resolution.
And yes, it's very hard to think how her son will cope with Christmas.

 

[?!?]

New article from the Daily Mail (FWIW)

Edit to add: Not much new information, as it mainly is about JS and his business dealings. The media is grasping at straws at this point, but if it keeps Heidi’s name in the media, so be it, IMO.

HB did business with missing mom HP’s 'fraudster boss', emails show | Daily Mail Online

• Emails from HB's abandoned laptop show the president's son was in business with JS, the boss of missing accountant HP
• HP, 39, was last seen in Los Angeles on October 17
• JS was a director and 'key shareholder' of Burnham Financial Group, which pitched a major deal to HB’s Chinese business partners in 2015
• JS is under investigation by the SEC over a fraudulent scheme that swindled $43million out of pension funds between 2014 and 2016
• HB’s friend and business partner in his controversial deals with the Chinese, DA, was convicted in 2018 for his involvement in the $43M grift
• Emails obtained by DailyMail.com show DA introduced JS to HB’s Chinese partner JL, arranging a meeting in Beijing

Don't look for this in US media any time soon....
JMO

 

[SteveP]

I hesitate to say this, but I don't think they are looking for a body. If the trash was compacted at the transfer station, or even at the H&F if such is done there, they are looking for remains. Those remains may be extremely difficult to find amongst all the other material. It's likely that they have to do forensic investigation, including DNA testing, of anything they suspect or determine to be organic or have been alive, even animals. This MAY be in progress, and could take an enormous amount of time.

I so wish this to be solved, one way or the other, for her loved ones' sakes. And that if Heidi was intentionally harmed that there will be justice. It's such a complicated case, I wonder if there will ever be a resolution.
And yes, it's very hard to think how her son will cope with Christmas.

Those are my thoughts as well. I was just trying to say it as delicately as I could.

 

[Curiosa20]

Can anyone provide the SOURCE (court document images) for the claim that the charges against JS are 'settled?' TIA.

I have noted from afar that you got no response.

So in the interest of keeping the record straight,
I’ll post the totally Unsettled Denial to Dismiss the SEC’s Case against JS. He stands to lose way more than the 9 million dollars he used to enrich himself from the funds he deceptively and fraudulently redirected to himself and his wife from the $43 million ripoff of one of the poorest Native American Tribes in the US.
Here’s a recap and the Denial to drop charges by the Judge of the Southern District of New York.
I will post in another message the Relief/punishment the SEC has requested to protect the public and financial systems from Mr. Sugarman and his agents, et al, predatory, deceptive and fraudulent practices and schemes.
How it began:
Jason Sugarman (Release No. LR-24518; Jun. 27, 2019)
Where it’s at- Denial to Dismiss-
https://www.casemine.com/judgement/us/5f7ac13c4653d05df39f284f

 

[Curiosa20]

Several of the LLC’s listed in this complaint are tired directly to Heidi and her home address.
Scroll down to page 36-37 to see just how profoundly the SEC hopes to prevail in order to eliminate the possibility that JS cause any further harm.
JW’s initial reaction was, her boss knows where all the bones are buried.
JS dropped off muffins and seemed to try to open her door, demanded her laptop, when the family and friends needed a Private Investigator.
https://www.sec.gov/litigation/complaints/2019/comp-pr2019-113.pdf