CA - Lady Gaga’s dog walker shot, 2 dogs stolen, Hollywood, 24 Feb 2021 *dogs found safe* *arrests* *Guilty*

[K9Enzo]

The victim (family friend/dog walker) appears to be recovering from being shot in the chest. I hope he makes a full recovery. What happened to him is horrid. LE will continue to investigate this crime and hopefully find the young punks who did this. I think they will. This was not a sophisticated crime.

I’m relieved the stolen dogs were turned into LE and are unharmed & safe.

I care zero about the reward money and where it goes. However, if I was a dog owner of these apparent desirable dogs, wealthy and lived in these target areas, I would be on edge. Kidnap a dog, hold it for ransom, collect a handsome reward. Might be a desirable gig for some.

For the record, if my dogs were stolen (they are pointy eared hell hounds that people would think twice about) I would also offer a reward for their safe return. They are not my furbabies, they are highly trained active dogs that I own, am responsible for, have an incredible partnership with, that live comfortably in my home. IMO

 

[Vern]

I know that the microchip data can be updated but I don't know how easily dog chips can be removed.
I really have no idea other than they probably do business with like-minded persons. I also thought they'd probably sell them to breeders.

Anyone stealing a dog to resale, probably doesn't care much about a microchip. They sell that dog using a fake name and get their money and, like thieves in the night are gone. The new owner is the loser the minute they take their "new" dog to the vet and discover it's stolen when the vet runs the microchip.

Kind of like buying a stolen TV etc. You hand over the money only to discover it's stolen merchandise when you try to get it repaired, register the serial number for insurance purposes etc.

 

[Vern]

States with Retail Pet Sale Bans


This is the REASON for the uptrend in Puppy and Dog Thief.

People are no longer able to purchase a Puppy from a Retail Pet Stores in some states which ups the price of Puppy sales for Private Breeders which makes a Crime Niche.

This is also the REASON that puppy mills are thankfully disappearing.

 

[Vern]

Violent Street Robbery NR21051ml - Los Angeles Police Department
On February 24, 2021 at approximately 9:40 p.m., the victim was walking three French bulldogs in the area of Sierra Bonita Avenue and Sunset Blvd. The suspects approached the victim in a white Nissan Altima four door.
Two suspects exited the vehicle and demanded the victim turn over the dogs at gunpoint. The victim struggled with the suspects and was shot once by one of the suspects. The suspects took two of the three dogs and fled the scene in the suspect vehicle.

Maybe it's just me, but that vehicle profile that's posted and the "Nissan Altima" don't match. The rear tail lights, and the head lights are a totally different shape. The rear door seal also seems to come straight down before it curves over the wheel on the suspect vehicle. It is not a Nissan Altima.

The pics are linked in this post: Lady Gaga’s dog walker shot, 2 dogs stolen in Hollywood attack, 24 Feb 2021 *dogs found safe*

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Maybe it's just me, but that vehicle profile that's posted and the "Nissan Altima" don't match. The rear tail lights, and the head lights are a totally different shape. The rear door seal also seems to come straight down before it curves over the wheel on the suspect vehicle. It is not a Nissan Altima.

The pics are linked in this post: Lady Gaga’s dog walker shot, 2 dogs stolen in Hollywood attack, 24 Feb 2021 *dogs found safe*

When I saw the side by side, I too thought it didn't match.

 

[Vern]

I don't like the human victim being de-emphasized in favor of the dawgs.

But yes, I can also acknowledge the rights of other people to to apply what ever focus they wish to in the matter.

Hmm.... maybe, just maybe, I would consult with the police and explore the possibility of offering dual rewards- one for the dogs and one for the assailants.

What's that saying ... "Snitches get stitches." We are dealing with thieves - people who shot someone to obtain dogs to either:

1) hold dogs for ransom; or
2) re-sell dogs for a tidy sum.

When people hold to the belief of "don't be a rat", people don't speak up or speak out.

BUT, it's also a psychological ploy to not bring up the human factor as well. If speaking up or out about someone they know who may be re-selling dogs, in hopes that that is the individual who committed the dog-napping, thus collecting the reward, there's no human factor to consider. They can then be content in the fact they didn't "snitch" on someone for assault with a deadly weapon, armed robbery or attempted murder.

It will gain them more calls and tips because it focus' on the "minor" crime the perp committed and not the major crime. Someone will narc out one of their buddies who re-sells dogs as "a tip". Especially for a chance at 500k for such a 'minor' crime. I think it was a brilliant move.

Sad that this "snitched get stitches" mindset even exists. It is a major contributing factor to crime happening and criminals getting away with their nefarious deeds.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

What's that saying ... "Snitches get stitches." We are dealing with thieves - people who shot someone to obtain dogs to either:

1) hold dogs for ransom; or
2) re-sell dogs for a tidy sum.

When people hold to the belief of "don't be a rat", people don't speak up or speak out.

BUT, it's also a psychological ploy to not bring up the human factor as well. If speaking up or out about someone they know who may be re-selling dogs, in hopes that that is the individual who committed the dog-napping, thus collecting the reward, there's no human factor to consider. They can then be content in the fact they didn't "snitch" on someone for assault with a deadly weapon, armed robbery or attempted murder.

It will gain them more calls and tips because it focus' on the "minor" crime the perp committed and not the major crime. Someone will narc out one of their buddies who re-sells dogs as "a tip". Especially for a chance at 500k for such a 'minor' crime. I think it was a brilliant move.

Sad that this "snitched get stitches" mindset even exists. It is a major contributing factor to crime happening and criminals getting away with their nefarious deeds.

Could also be interesting in that OTHER dog nappers have been outed due to this 500k reward? e.g. I know that my cousin Mr. D Auggie has stolen dogs with a friend, it might be him, can I have the 500k if it is him?

Has anyone gleaned any MSM reports of numbers of calls of dogs stolen in that metro area in the last year?

 

[Vern]

I agree with you. Its.... possible that Gaga is doing any number of things in apparent secrecy (press coverage seems pretty extensive and has many sources).

Likewise, its possible that Gaga is currently say, developing comprehensive plans to do any number of things in the near future.

In the end, given Gaga's wealth, she has a lot of "possibles" regarding a lot of things. But...... from what is known, Gaga's focus seems to be far more on the dogs than the human element.

Then again, we are different people and have a different perspective.

I disagree.

The dog walker is a human being and her friend - Ryan. She has released a public statement calling him a hero. Anther that confirmed he is recovering well.

I'm quite certain that she has spoken to him, is in all likelihood covering his expenses and medical care costs, and dealing with her friend in a private manner. It's none of our business.

Given her demonstrated, proven, history of compassion and support for victims, I'm willing to guarantee you that her friend is not being "lost" in her focus. Rather the opposite ... it's just personal and actually none of our business to have all that "publicly available".

Ryan was and is safe, recovering and being looked after when that reward was offered. The DOGS were not. The dogs and their safety therefore WERE the emphasis that was required at that time.

 

[Sarahlou]

I disagree.

The dog walker is a human being and her friend - Ryan. She has released a public statement calling him a hero. Anther that confirmed he is recovering well.

I'm quite certain that she has spoken to him, is in all likelihood covering his expenses and medical care costs, and dealing with her friend in a private manner. It's none of our business.

Given her demonstrated, proven, history of compassion and support for victims, I'm willing to guarantee you that her friend is not being "lost" in her focus. Rather the opposite ... it's just personal and actually none of our business to have all that "publicly available".

Ryan was and is safe, recovering and being looked after when that reward was offered. The DOGS were not. The dogs and their safety therefore WERE the emphasis that was required at that time.

Agreed. Ryan's family said she's been in constant contact. She's a caring person, she will make sure he is looked after, no doubt about that.

 

[branmuffin]

I agree with you. Its.... possible that Gaga is doing any number of things in apparent secrecy (press coverage seems pretty extensive and has many sources).

Likewise, its possible that Gaga is currently say, developing comprehensive plans to do any number of things in the near future.

In the end, given Gaga's wealth, she has a lot of "possibles" regarding a lot of things. But...... from what is known, Gaga's focus seems to be far more on the dogs than the human element.

Then again, we are different people and have a different perspective.

Lady Gaga has no children. The dogs are her children. She is responding like any normal wealthy parent whose child is abducted.

When an violent abduction occurs there are two prongs to the investigation; one the recovery of the victim(s) and the other the apprehension of the perps. Lady Gaga couldn't be involved in the apprehension of the perps but she certainly could be involved in the recovery of her dogs by offering a reward. And sometimes the reward is the stimulus to illustrate there really is no honour among thieves and there's probably less than six degrees of Kevin Bacon.

 

[Shane K]

Maybe it's just me, but that vehicle profile that's posted and the "Nissan Altima" don't match. The rear tail lights, and the head lights are a totally different shape. The rear door seal also seems to come straight down before it curves over the wheel on the suspect vehicle. It is not a Nissan Altima.

The pics are linked in this post: Lady Gaga’s dog walker shot, 2 dogs stolen in Hollywood attack, 24 Feb 2021 *dogs found safe*

Agreed. I thought it was a Dodge Neon

 

[IceIce9]

I disagree.

The dog walker is a human being and her friend - Ryan. She has released a public statement calling him a hero. Anther that confirmed he is recovering well.

I'm quite certain that she has spoken to him, is in all likelihood covering his expenses and medical care costs, and dealing with her friend in a private manner. It's none of our business.

Given her demonstrated, proven, history of compassion and support for victims, I'm willing to guarantee you that her friend is not being "lost" in her focus. Rather the opposite ... it's just personal and actually none of our business to have all that "publicly available".

Ryan was and is safe, recovering and being looked after when that reward was offered. The DOGS were not. The dogs and their safety therefore WERE the emphasis that was required at that time.

Moo, I think she should have offered a reward for the safe return of the dogs AND a reward for information that leads to the arrest of the criminal who shot the dog walker.

 

[Vail]

I'm glad Ryan is recovering.

My only 2c on the issue is please don't buy dogs bred for novelty. As much as I like LadyGaga, I can't sympathise with anyone who buys french bulldogs and then claims to love them like children. It's completely unethical. Imagine buying a baby purposely engineered to have down syndrome.

 

[margarita25]

“It appeared that the woman, whom Tippet would not name, was not involved in the robbery or associated with the assailants, although the captain cautioned that the investigation was still underway.

“I don’t want to get into any discussions about her or where the dogs were actually located,” Tippet said. “We’re providing very little information on this because this is an ongoing investigation and because we are also concerned about her safety.”“

Lady Gaga's French bulldogs recovered after being stolen during shooting

 

[dixiegirl1035]

“It appeared that the woman, whom Tippet would not name, was not involved in the robbery or associated with the assailants, although the captain cautioned that the investigation was still underway.

“I don’t want to get into any discussions about her or where the dogs were actually located,” Tippet said. “We’re providing very little information on this because this is an ongoing investigation and because we are also concerned about her safety.”“

Lady Gaga's French bulldogs recovered after being stolen during shooting

Just saw on TV news (David Muir program) that the dogs were found tied to a pole. Nothing more than that said.

 

[zecats]

Lady Gaga's dogs were found tied to a pole by 'good samaritan': report


The report claims the woman found them tied to a pole in an alley miles away from where the dognapping and shooting of the singer's dog walker took place Wednesday night.

The woman reportedly noticed the dogs from the media's coverage of the incident. She utilized the email address the pop star provided in her public plea on Friday. The woman then was advised to bring the dogs to the police, the report claims.

JMO. The thieves didn’t realize these dogs belonged to her and when she posted a large reward, they knew there was no way to sell them without being caught. Glad the dogs were not harmed and are safe now. Hope the dog walker will be ok.

 

[branmuffin]

I'm glad Ryan is recovering.

My only 2c on the issue is please don't buy dogs bred for novelty. As much as I like LadyGaga, I can't sympathise with anyone who buys french bulldogs and then claims to love them like children. It's completely unethical. Imagine buying a baby purposely engineered to have down syndrome.

My daughter fell in love with French bulldogs because my granddaughter watched the antics of some Twitter feed where the dog had half a million followers.

He's sweet but he has so many issues. He has skin problems, digestive problems and some other issues which cost them a fortune. He is trainable but like a beagle when he is focused on something all training goes out the window. And he can't swim! His body has been engineered so that he's top heavy, with a huge head and upper torso and a diminishing body toward the rear. Poor little doggo. I feel for him because they have a place in Florida and love to go to the lake here in Ontario but you have to watch him like a hawk. It's like he has half a cement block tied around his neck.

I find it kind of upsetting that my daughter succumbed to the siren song of a designer dog. Especially considering ever pet we've ever had was either a stray or a rescue. My parents were the same. I've never grown up with a puppy or ever had a puppy in my life. Too many unwanted mutts that need homes that pound for pound are heads and shoulders above many purebreds for intelligence and the fact they don't get those weird issues like skin issues, digestive issues, joint issues, susceptibility toward cancer, hip dysplasia, etc. Okay, I'll get off my soapbox now.

Except give love to an unwanted dog that doesn't have a pedigree except in their ability to provide joy and love.

 

[zecats]

My daughter fell in love with French bulldogs because my granddaughter watched the antics of some Twitter feed where the dog had half a million followers.

He's sweet but he has so many issues. He has skin problems, digestive problems and some other issues which cost them a fortune. He is trainable but like a beagle when he is focused on something all training goes out the window. And he can't swim! His body has been engineered so that he's top heavy, with a huge head and upper torso and a diminishing body toward the rear. Poor little doggo. I feel for him because they have a place in Florida and love to go to the lake here in Ontario but you have to watch him like a hawk. It's like he has half a cement block tied around his neck.

I find it kind of upsetting that my daughter succumbed to the siren song of a designer dog. Especially considering ever pet we've ever had was either a stray or a rescue. My parents were the same. I've never grown up with a puppy or ever had a puppy in my life. Too many unwanted mutts that need homes that pound for pound are heads and shoulders above many purebreds for intelligence and the fact they don't get those weird issues like skin issues, digestive issues, joint issues, susceptibility toward cancer, hip dysplasia, etc. Okay, I'll get off my soapbox now.

Except give love to an unwanted dog that doesn't have a pedigree except in their ability to provide joy and love.

What you're describing sounds more like an English Bulldog, which is what my daughter and SIL own. I always thought French Bulldogs were the tinier version of bull dogs.

Anyway, regardless, I hear you. I used to stay in their apartment in Manhattan and take care of this dog for them and he was nothing short of a PITA to walk. I literally had to drag him up or down the block. I wanted so much to have a dog to walk in the parks, etc. Nothing doing. I could barely get him out the door. And it was even worse before they moved to an elevator building.

They love him though, in spite of the problems he has with breathing and walking, and obeying..

 

[LadyL]

If it were me, I would certainly deny that large reward, and to ask her to give it to animal charities or LE charities or ???. LE not involved so he cannot speak to it?

The dogs were perhaps released due to unexpected focus and outrage of the shooting, so there is that good that came out of such that folks may have been giving tips to catch the shooters.

seriously? you would turn down a half million dollars??
why not take it and give some of it to animal charities yourself?

 

[dixiegirl1035]

seriously? you would turn down a half million dollars??
why not take it and give some of it to animal charities yourself?

I wouldn't want the hassles of messing up taxes lol. And yes, seriously I would indeed turn down a half million dollars. I live frugally and wouldn't want the life changes that might come with such a windfall iykwim. I would rather it go to charity and perhaps just a small small amount for doing the right thing. Lady Gaga could get more publicity for the gift to perhaps promote a needy cause, and I truly trust that her folks would find a fine one or two or more. I've never expected or even considered when I have found and homed a lost dog to be paid anything (I've had it happen twice that I've found a dog and homed it and took it to vets and put on social media.... just happy to get the doggie back to it's owners).

And I also would want anonymity to boot vs. my name splashed in the papers.