CA - Murder victims Identified as Rob Reiner and wife Michele - LA Dec 14 2025

[cujenn81]

I don’t know the abbreviations (SBMFF? SBM? RSBM?) can someone explain please.
That said, yes there can be a variety of subtle signs that someone is starting to have a manic episode (eg , I have seen in patients, when I was in practice - sleep changes, irritability, rapid speech, flirtatiousness, grandiose thinking, even changes in the size of handwriting), but thus far, despite the likelihood that patients with SA problems have a dual diagnosis, so far we have not heard about that re: NR from any reliable sources.

SBM - snipped by me (meaning, the original post was snipped by the replying party)
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RSBM - not sure about that one

 

[IzzyBlanche]

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SBMFF - snipped by me for focus
RSBM - not sure about that one

RSBM -Respectfully snipped by me

 

[Gemmie]

More details:

The slain bodies of Rob Reiner and Michele Reiner were found in the master bedroom area of their Brentwood home, and within hours the investigation turned to focus on their younger son, a Los Angeles Police Department official reported on Tuesday to the city’s police commissioners.

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The associate, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the family was not ready to speak publicly about the matter, said that the daughter then ran back into the house to search other rooms for her mother, not realizing that Michele Reiner’s body also was in the master bedroom area.

Only after paramedics arrived did an emergency worker come out of the room and inform her that both of her parents had been killed, the family associate said.

Bodies of Rob and Michele Reiner Were Found in Master Bedroom, Police Say

After finding the slain couple, investigators focused on their younger son, Nick, as a suspect. He was formally charged with murder on Tuesday and appeared in court on Wednesday.

www.nytimes.com

Question - Could the DP have more of a chance of happening since it appears to be determined that they were in bed when attacked and killed? To me that's so much worse than having an argument in the kitchen or dining room and picking up a knife and stabbing someone. He brought the weapon into the room with him for one, and only 1 purpose. To kill 2 people, his parents, while they were sleeping and totally unaware of what was to come. It was bad before, but this is beyond horrible. I am SO angry with him.

 

[libraryg]

Oh, absolutely, and thank you.

It still resonates with me. If I’m bored, I remember that actually indicates that nothing terrible has happened. Coming from that Holocaust survivor, it was so meaningful to me.

A boring 3-day stretch would be so vastly preferable to what has actually happened

Our family sources add … Michele had been anguishing to friends over the last few months that she and Rob were at their wits' end over Nick's mental illness and alleged substance abuse issues, and did not know what to do with their son Nick … saying, "We've tried everything."

Rob Reiner & Son Nick in Heated Argument at Conan O'Brien's Christmas Party

Rob Reiner, his wife Michele, and their son Nick attended Conan O'Brien's Christmas party Saturday night. At the party, Rob and Nick got into a "very loud argument," loud enough for many others to hear ... Reiner family sources tell TMZ. We're told Rob and Michele then left the party. We do not...

www.tmz.com

Sadly, no amount of money, treatment, or loving support helped Nick overcome his addiction.

I wonder if Rob & Michele told Nick they were done and he needed

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Page Six similarly reported Monday that Nick, who has battled drug addiction for more than half his life, was “egocentric” with “serious behavioral issues” from a young age.

Yoga instructor Alanna Zabel told us that when she worked with Rob and Michelle in the early 2000s, Nick “interrupted pretty much all of [their] yoga sessions” for “20 minutes or so” with “intense … screaming.”

This egocentric, middle child, had serious behavioral issues, lacked impulse control, and resented his siblings for being born! Sadly, I think this seems to paint what we know to be consistent about NR's life.

Zabel, a wellness and child development expert, was engaged early in NR's life to help teach him how to manage his big emotions (via private yoga sessions), which they did. This experience inspired Zabel to write "A Chair in the Air" (some excerpts in Zabel's LinkedIn), a little tale where Little Nicky meets Mahini Yogini, who teaches him how to use his intense energy for good. Book excerpts

In 2015, while NR was living in a sober house, Rob Reiner engaged his son to create "Being Charlie," hoping he'd find a sense of purpose and experience pride in his personal accomplishment, but I think for NR, the reward here did not match the work the project required of him.

IMO, sobriety wasn't a long-term option for NR because he didn't like the physical feeling of being clean. He never gave treatment a fighting chance because NR simply liked getting stoned, taking some pills, and doing whatever he wanted.



The insider claimed Nick “would fight with his parents because they would give him the ultimatum, take medication and stop using, or move out.”

The 32-year-old allegedly once threatened his sister, Romy Reiner, for confronting him, and “all hell broke loose.”

“His parents threatened to call authorities multiple times, but in the end didn’t,” the source alleged.

“Nick would reportedly find the aftermath of his rages funny and “brag [about] how he could get away with anything.”

NR is a savage. He cut short the lives of the individuals who provided him with the only real love he'll ever know, and deprived his siblings of their parents. He's wicked, a bad seed. MOO

‘Ticking time bomb’ Nick Reiner went on meth-fueled outbursts as Rob, Michele threatened to kick him out: report

Nick Reiner went on aggressive drug-fueled “outbursts” and was allegedly threatened to be kicked out of parents Rob Reiner and Michele Singer Reiner’s home prior to their deaths.

pagesix.com

I believe he was a bad seed from the get go. The horrific pain and suffering of his entire family and his siblings weighs heavy on my heart. May Jesus bring the remaining family members strength, comfort, insight and the peace they were denied suffering through this decades long nightmare.

 

[MistyWaters]

Question - Could the DP have more of a chance of happening since it appears to be determined that they were in bed when attacked and killed? To me that's so much worse than having an argument in the kitchen or dining room and picking up a knife and stabbing someone. He brought the weapon into the room with him for one, and only 1 purpose. To kill 2 people, his parents, while they were sleeping and totally unaware of what was to come. It was bad before, but this is beyond horrible. I am SO angry with him.

Murdering people in their sleep is absolutely cowardly. It denies the victims any opportunity to fight for their lives. It denies them the opportunity to verbally appeal to the killer’s conscience, even prevent a murder from occurring. But mainly by choosing sleeping victims the killer can avoid looking into his parents eyes as he’s destroying the very same people who gave him life. Pure Evil.
JMO

 

[Wishbone]

Rob Reiner's Son Nick Was 'Entitled' and 'Wanted to Live a Life That Didn't Exist,' Says Source​

Rob Reiner's Son Nick Was 'Entitled' and 'Wanted to Live a Life That Didn't Exist,' Says Source (Exclusive)

Rob Reiner's son Nick Reiner was "entitled" and "wanted to live a life that didn't exist," a source close to the family tells PEOPLE. The 32-year-old, now charged with killing his parents, previously spoke about having "no identity" and "no passions" growing up in the shadow of a famous father.

people.com

 

[Wishbone]

Furious fight, bloody hotel room, missing hours – the unanswered questions from Nick Reiner’s night of horror

The official narrative isn’t just missing pieces–it’s shattered by unanswered queries about what the accused killer was doing while his parents lay dead.

nypost.com

 

[LittleSeaTree]

I’m sorry if it’s been discussed, I need to catch up, but I had recorded the ABC special last night and tried to watch it a bit ago, and had to turn it off after the first three minutes. It was so unbelievably tasteless. TOO SOON! Opened with a journalist and someone else basically sharing anecdotes about how they found out. Like, gossipy, and as if it were someone who had passed decades ago. And definitely not someone so revered. Disgusted. Thank you.

 

[Seattle1]

In podcast, Nick Reiner recalled rampant drug use, a heart emergency at 24, trashing a guesthouse

12/15/25

In a Dopey podcast interview seven years ago, then-24-year-old Reiner called in to the program to talk about his experience of relapsing on methamphetamine. The podcast focuses on addiction and recovery.

Reiner said he remembered that, about a year before, he was taking “cocaine and something else” and was up for days on end.

“I started punching out different things in my guesthouse. ... I started with the TV and then I went over to the lamp and then progressed,” Reiner said on the podcast. “Everything in the house got wrecked.”

That prompted him to leave Los Angeles for a recovery center in Boston in an effort to get sober.

But on his plane ride to Boston, Reiner said he was on meth and suboxone, a prescription medication to treat opioid addiction, and while airborne he said he had a heart attack.

“I literally passed out on the plane and I woke up in a hospital [in Boston],” he said.

After the hospital in Boston, Reiner said he ended up in a sober living home in Maine. But the goal of recovery was in vain because he said he just wanted to go home.

“Wanted to go back to my old life of smoking weed, kind of taking some pills, like doing whatever I wanted,” he said.

Rob Reiner’s son Nick denied bail in first appearance in court

Rob Reiner’s son Nick was charged with murder in the deaths of his parents. If convicted on all counts, Reiner faces the possibility of life without parole or the death penalty.

www.latimes.com

In interviews, Nick praised his parents for helping him find sobriety but also said he was trying to forge his own life.

NPR asked them whether they’d want to work together again after “Being Charlie.”

“I think for now, it’s best for me at least to be sort of independent. But that’s not to say I didn’t have an amazing experience,” Nick said. (Based on IMDb, he did not have any other movie roles.)

Rob added: “He was the heart and soul of the film and any time I would get an opportunity to work with him I would do it, but I do understand him wanting to forge his own way. I do know what that’s about, I went through it, and he’s brilliant and talented and he’s going to figure out his path.”

The insider claimed Nick “would fight with his parents because they would give him the ultimatum, take medication and stop using, or move out.”

The 32-year-old allegedly once threatened his sister, Romy Reiner, for confronting him, and “all hell broke loose.”

“His parents threatened to call authorities multiple times, but in the end didn’t,” the source alleged.

“Nick would reportedly find the aftermath of his rages funny and “brag [about] how he could get away with anything.”

12/15/25

(Appearing on a podcast a few weeks later, Nick would be more candid about his ambivalence toward the movie and the promotional efforts around it. Sobriety, he said, was a relative term. While he’d managed to get off meth and heroin, he was still drinking and smoking pot. “I said to [the film’s publicists], ‘Listen, I’m not in a position to do this. I’m not a quote unquote sober guy.’ I’m going to have to go on these talk shows. They said you have to do this. They want the whole father-son angle. It just goes to show you how disgusting it is.” But he finally relented. “It was uncomfortable, but I felt like it was part of the job.”)

THR-'Being Charlie:' TIFF Review
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ETA:

Nick Reiner and co-screenwriter Matt E. met at a rehab facility. Around 2011, they started working on this project with an eye towards creating a TV series based on the people and events they witnessed in recovery. Ultimately, the project became a collaboration between the real-life father and son team-- as a way to work through how NR's own drug problems affected their family.

The result, Being Charlie, premiered at the Toronto Film Festival (TIFF) in 2015. At the time of the festival, the film was still unsold to a US Distributor. (I believe the film ended up going straight to VOD (video on demand)).

Nonetheless, we know that Rob & Nick did many interviews and appearances 2015-16 to promote the film, and following the untimely passing of Rob & Michele Reiner, countless video clips from their interviews have surfaced.

No surprise, there are currently countless interpretations, critiques, and opinions of both the father and son from these interviews. However, after seeing so many comments and posts alluding to NR being either "disturbed" or not buying what his dad was selling, I wanted to remind readers about the truth of NR's sobriety during the time of these interviews!

IMO, during these joint appearances, we are witnessing NR being afraid and/or uncomfortable of being outed at any moment-- as a complete fraud! And not a fraud in comparison to his talented father in the film industry, but as a recovering addict!

Please take note that during solo appearances--such as a podcast only a few weeks after appearing in Toronto with his family, NR was more candid about his ambivalence toward the movie and the promotional efforts. Alone, he would confide: Sobriety, is a relative term. While he’d managed to get off meth and heroin, he was still drinking and smoking pot.

Make no mistake, 18+ failed attempts at rehab is what you get when the addict has an alternate definition of 'a sober person' (i.e., the science of sobriety).

I've opined before that recovery has never been NR's goal, and I'm shattered for these parents who were so obviously "All-In" to save their son.

Perhaps the professionals with degrees on their walls--telling Rob & Michele Reiner that NR was a liar, who was also manipulating them, were right all along.... MOO

The Physiological and Psychological State​

The internal state of a sober person undergoes measurable changes as the body and brain begin to heal from the effects of chronic substance use. Physiologically, the body starts to reverse damage, leading to improved liver function and better cardiovascular health over time. Sleep cycles, often disrupted by chronic substance use, stabilize as the brain’s natural sleep-wake regulation systems recover.

Within the brain, the long-term effects of substance use on neurotransmitter systems begin to rebalance as the brain’s reward pathways normalize. Studies using neuroimaging indicate that prolonged abstinence is associated with the partial normalization of white matter integrity, showing a physical healing process in the brain. This neurochemical stabilization contributes to improvements in cognitive function, memory, and clearer decision-making abilities.

Psychologically, a sober person experiences enhanced emotional regulation and a reduction in the symptoms of co-occurring disorders, such as anxiety and depression. Improvements in psychological well-being often occur within the first five years of sustained sobriety. This period sees a progressive increase in satisfaction with life and the development of healthier coping strategies, replacing the previous reliance on substances to manage distress. The ability to process difficult feelings without being overwhelmed marks a significant return to mental equilibrium.

The Science of Sobriety

 

[Little Jack]

Someone introduced me to the concept of "sanpaku eyes" on another websleuths thread and Nick has these eyes in almost all photos ive seen.

I know this type of thing is not backed by science but it sure is striking.

<modnote: per DM with LittleJack, confirmed it was Nick meant, not rob. Fixed.>

 

[Seattle1]

Has anyone heard whose name the room was under and how it was paid? Was it Nicks name and credit card?

As reported by TMZ:

Nick Reiner (32), the son of director Rob Reiner, checked into the Pierside Santa Monica Hotel in California on Sunday, using his own credit card, according to TMZ. Witnesses described him looking 'high on drugs' upon arrival, but there were no visible signs of violence, such as blood or cuts.

MSN

 

[ttjo]

As reported by TMZ:

Nick Reiner (32), the son of director Rob Reiner, checked into the Pierside Santa Monica Hotel in California on Sunday, using his own credit card, according to TMZ. Witnesses described him looking 'high on drugs' upon arrival, but there were no visible signs of violence, such as blood or cuts.

MSN

Thats what I thought, I heard , So this kid goes home murders his family, Manages to get himself to Santa Monica and rents a room right next to the pier ( its busy isnt it?) rents the room in his own name ,allegedly uses his own credit card , doesn’t officially check out but leaves blood all over the bathtub /shower and covers the windows with bedsheets. He somehow makes his way over to the area near USC, walks into a gas station to get a drink and is carrying a red backpack… What on earth was he doing? RR was one of the most famous people in Hollywood, did he not think anyone would be looking for him?

 

[Gemmie]

As reported by TMZ:

Nick Reiner (32), the son of director Rob Reiner, checked into the Pierside Santa Monica Hotel in California on Sunday, using his own credit card, according to TMZ. Witnesses described him looking 'high on drugs' upon arrival, but there were no visible signs of violence, such as blood or cuts.

MSN

"High on drugs" or.... Whatever look he had on his face might have nothing to do with drugs. Moreso... what he had done.

 

[no nonsense]

RSBM -Respectfully snipped by me

thank you!

 

[LittleSeaTree]

Someone introduced me to the concept of "sanpaku eyes" on another websleuths thread and Nick has these eyes in almost all photos ive seen.

I know this type of thing is not backed by science but it sure is striking.

<modnote: per DM with LittleJack, confirmed it was Nick meant, not rob. Fixed.>

Assuming you mean Nick? I said that to my friend earlier, 100% those eyes. Like Bryan Kohberger. Chilling in those instances!

 

[doublestop]

My husband has an uncanny way of disappearing under his covers. We've been married for 20 plus years and sometimes I have to look twice to see if he's in there. If MIchele's sleeping habits were similar, it's entirely possible Romy didn't see her.

OF course, as you point out, that means she was probably stabbed under those covers.

Chilling.

Or perhaps she was chased into the master bath, since they said they were both found in the master bedroom area....not just the master bedroom.

 

[Knox]

"Nick wanted to live a life that didn't exist. He was entitled," the source tells PEOPLE. "He didn’t want to do any work but expected to be loved the way the rest of his family was."

While on a podcast back in 2016, Nick said he thought growing up in the shadow of a famous father and grandfather — Carl Reiner, who died in 2020 — led him to abusing drugs.

“I had no identity, and I had no passions,” he admitted at the time. “And I think the reason I had no identity was because I have a famous dad and a famous grandpa, and that fame sort of informs who you are. So I wanted to edge out my own identity with a more rebellious, angry, drug-addicted sort of persona.”

Rob Reiner's Son Nick Was 'Entitled' and 'Wanted to Live a Life That Didn't Exist,' Says Source (Exclusive)

Rob Reiner's son Nick Reiner was "entitled" and "wanted to live a life that didn't exist," a source close to the family tells PEOPLE. The 32-year-old, now charged with killing his parents, previously spoke about having "no identity" and "no passions" growing up in the shadow of a famous father.

people.com

 

[Seattle1]

12/16/25

LIVE: Nick Reiner Case — Hollywood Royalty, Double Murder & What We Know So Far​

Attorney Scott Reisch has an interesting perspective here from personal experience-- being raised with an addict brother, and how even in death, the parents still provide/enable his sibling. I think many can relate to Scott's experience.

 

[Cindizzi]

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[Cindizzi]

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