CA - Murder victims Identified as Rob Reiner and wife Michele - LA Dec 14 2025

[ttjo]

Oh, absolutely. I wasn't trying to deflect blame from him, he's 100% responsible any way you slice it. I just wanted to dispel misconceptions about psychosis because it leads people down an inaccurate logical path, i.e. he can't be this because he did this. Whether he was or he wasn't, he needs to be held accountable and kept far away from society permanantly, imo.

I wish we knew more about the party, they keep talking about the same incident with the same guy not much else. What was the fight about? Who left first? RR or Nick? I’d be surprised if they would leave without Nick, and leave him at the party if they were that concerned about his mental health ( that’s why they brought him allegedly) There has to be more info we don't know yet.

 

[Lalalacasbah]

I wish we knew more about the party, they keep talking about the same incident with the same guy not much else. What was the fight about? Who left first? RR or Nick? I’d be surprised if they would leave without Nick, and leave him at the party if they were that concerned about his mental health ( that’s why they brought him allegedly) There has to be more info we don't know yet.

Me too. The party tension, fight, escalation and blow up does not help an insanity/NCR defense in my little opinion.

The murder sounds very reactionary, vindictive and a big 'F U' if perhaps NR was humiliated by Hollywood people and his parents... not really random psychosis... The build up of events sounds like an eruption vs psychosis but I am no expert. All MOO

 

[ttjo]

Me too. The party tension, fight, escalation and blow up does not help an insanity/NCR defense in my little opinion.

The murder sounds very reactionary, vindictive and a big 'F U' if perhaps NR was humiliated by Hollywood people and his parents... not really random psychosis... The build up of events sounds like an eruption vs psychosis but I am no expert. All MOO

And factor in the alleged med review/adjustment while allegedly taking street drugs ( who was aware of that? ) Im waiting for “the system failed him “ to come out. 17 rehabs was that the system or him not trying? ( just thinking cost probably would have not concerned him, maybe never took it that seriously?)
Same with the med adjustment , if he was that off the wall, who was monitoring that? And how much is the clients responsibility ?

 

[Hexe]

“He wasn’t stable. There were many times when Nick had a rant and it affected everyone … Michele would say to people ‘Please don’t upset him.’ The family and all their helpers would basically cater to him. The rule was always ‘Give him what he wants.'”

Oh dear... That was one of the worst strategies possible I am afraid.

 

[getthefax]

Oh dear... That was one of the worst strategies possible I am afraid.

Exactly. They learn where the bread is buttered that way, and it reinforces their antisocial traits. **NOT BLAMING VICTIMS* since I know that no one know how their own behavior could have affected NR. They all did the best they could, and sadly paid the ultimate price.
I do hope is his locked away forever, whether in Prison with treatment, or in Treatment (like prison).

moo.

 

[detective.moon]

maybe it will all become much clearer when more information becomes available! but judging a case like this seems (especially the sanity question) seems pretty complicated to me. i hope there will be an outcome that will bring a sense of justice and that will make the family feel safe, while also giving a fair process to someone with mental illness. tbh, i do think he has a much better chance at that last part than most mentally ill people who have commited a crime who don’t have his background and wealthy family. i’m interested to see the case that the defense will make.

something i’ve been thinking — NR does seem like he has been a really unlikeable character even before this reached this tragic climax, and i wonder if and how the defense will try to make him more likeable to the jury, besides focusing on creating empathy for his mental illness and addiction.

 

[Hexe]

something i’ve been thinking — NR does seem like he has been a really unlikeable character even before this reached this tragic climax, and i wonder if and how the defense will try to make him more likeable to the jury, besides focusing on creating empathy for his mental illness and addiction

Then they will have to keep their client away from the stand, because whenever Nick opens his mouth, his nasty personality shines through his words. Also, I bet provoking him into angry outburst is a piece of cake.

 

[MistyWaters]

ITA, I think the other train of thought is it's his defense lawyers (team?) leaking this to the media to already plant the idea to maybe even potential jurors to blame meds for this crime and not him MOO JMO

I agree. And I think undiagnosed schizophrenia could far more likely result in a successful insanity defence than blame for medications for the treatment of it, whether changed or not. JMO

 

[Izzylizzy]

ITA, I think the other train of thought is it's his defense lawyers (team?) leaking this to the media to already plant the idea to maybe even potential jurors to blame meds for this crime and not him MOO JMO

Was a blood sample taken from NR after he was arrested?
This would show what drugs would have been in his system along with his prescribed meds.
imo

 

[Tortoise]

I wonder what he took with him in his backpack. It might illuminate whether he had planned an escape, with his passport (or not).

 

[ttjo]

I agree. And I think undiagnosed schizophrenia could far more likely result in a successful insanity defence than blame for medications for the treatment of it, whether changed or not. JMO

Very familiar with that defence around here, Mathew De Grood killed 5 people at a party, also connected And the Winnipeg bus guy that cut off a strangers head ,waved it at police through the front window of the bus. They say untreated schiz, can’t remember if that meant undiagnosed or just untreated.

 

[ttjo]

I wonder what he took with him in his backpack. It might illuminate whether he had planned an escape, with his passport (or not).

Another knapsack? ( red)

 

[ttjo]

Exactly. They learn where the bread is buttered that way, and it reinforces their antisocial traits. **NOT BLAMING VICTIMS* since I know that no one know how their own behavior could have affected NR. They all did the best they could, and sadly paid the ultimate price.
I do hope is his locked away forever, whether in Prison with treatment, or in Treatment (like prison).

moo.

“ Oh I get crazy, you dont want to set me off” That was his power. Probably used it every chance he got.

 

[su5ie]

Can you be mentally insane without having diminished responsibility as a possibility when it comes to sentencing

 

[su5ie]

I feel all these latest articles are being fed to the public to sublimely change perception of Nick from monster to victim and I don't like it , as it shows Hollywood up to its old tricks of damage control imo

 

[detective.moon]

I feel all these latest articles are being fed to the public to sublimely change perception of Nick from monster to victim and I don't like it , as it shows Hollywood up to its old tricks of damage control imo

my prediction is that they’ll shave off his beard (and maybe do something to his eyebrows?) as soon as possible too, to give him a friendlier look! i don’t know if we will see him in outside clothes any time soon, but i bet they would put him in a woolen sweater.

personally, i do feel conflicted about him! i think it must be so hard to live with addiction and schizophrenia. i think he’s both a victim (of himself) and a monster, when you think of what he has done. i totally understand if people only see him as the latter, too and i do think other people should be protected from him, clearly.

 

[su5ie]

my prediction is that they’ll shave off his beard (and maybe do something to his eyebrows?) as soon as possible too, to give him a friendlier look! i don’t know if we will see him in outside clothes any time soon, but i bet they would put him in a woolen sweater.

personally, i do feel conflicted about him! i think it must be so hard to live with addiction and schizophrenia. i think he’s both a victim (of himself) and a monster, when you think of what he has done. i totally understand if people only see him as the latter, too and i do think other people should be protected from him, clearly.

Oh I view him as both too but I don't know if the victim part is down to the 'monster " manipulating people into believing he is a victim when really he has engineered a life that enables him to do as he pleases without consequence or having to take responsibility and ownership of the majority of his problems

I get schizophrenia and MH issues are beyond total control but many suffers have fulfilling lives by stabilising meds , it would seem nick had a seething resentment that prehaps prevented him from wanting to stabilise in order to cause as much havoc and unhappiness to those he resented imo moo

This comes across in the Charlie interviews, you can see the hate aimed at his father ,this is in my opinion an example of how Nick enjoyed watching others squirm and feel uncomfortable

 

[su5ie]

my prediction is that they’ll shave off his beard (and maybe do something to his eyebrows?) as soon as possible too, to give him a friendlier look! i don’t know if we will see him in outside clothes any time soon, but i bet they would put him in a woolen sweater.

personally, i do feel conflicted about him! i think it must be so hard to live with addiction and schizophrenia. i think he’s both a victim (of himself) and a monster, when you think of what he has done. i totally understand if people only see him as the latter, too and i do think other people should be protected from him, clearly.

We will see the return of the Clark Kent spectacles too imo

 

[lohrtabitha]

Oh I view him as both too but I don't know if the victim part is down to the 'monster " manipulating people into believing he is a victim when really he has engineered a life that enables him to do as he pleases without consequence or having to take responsibility and ownership of the majority of his problems

I get schizophrenia and MH issues are beyond total control but many suffers have fulfilling lives by stabilising meds , it would seem nick had a seething resentment that prehaps prevented him from wanting to stabilise in order to cause as much havoc and unhappiness to those he resented imo moo

This comes across in the Charlie interviews, you can see the hate aimed at his father ,this is in my opinion an example of how Nick enjoyed watching others squirm and feel uncomfortable

Yes I agree. I watched the 25 minute interview with Rob and Nick in 2015 by AOL. If you watch the interview and his mannerisms, you can tell that something is off. He doesn't make a whole lot of eye contact and he is staring off into space. When his dad was talking about their relationship he seemed agitated. The interview is definitely something to watch. He is clearly disturbed. What is a parent supposed to do with a child of this nature? The Reiners had to much heart to institutionalize him and Rob Reiner told friends he was scared of Nic according to many news articles. Then to throw drug addiction into the equation, he was a ticking time bomb. Imo

 

[ttjo]

Yes I agree. I watched the 25 minute interview with Rob and Nick in 2015 by AOL. If you watch the interview and his mannerisms, you can tell that something is off. He doesn't make a whole lot of eye contact and he is staring off into space. When his dad was talking about their relationship he seemed agitated. The interview is definitely something to watch. He is clearly disturbed. What is a parent supposed to do with a child of this nature? The Reiners had to much heart to institutionalize him and Rob Reiner told friends he was scared of Nic according to many news articles. Then to throw drug addiction into the equation, he was a ticking time bomb. Imo

Before I read about the schizophrenia, I thought those blank stares looked like he was keeping score, and any time he could , he would reveal some truth from his perspective (“ you didn’t say that at first, you said my movie was trash” or “ I wasnt with you at that wrestling event that was Jake” portraying the neglected child.