CA - Rebecca Nalepa - suicide or murder? #9

[CuriousHousewife]

The small amount of tape residue found on her shins could have been how she took the hair off of her legs and it left some residue that wasnt washed off when she showered. She may have been so depressed that she hadnt showered that day. Imo, it couldnt have been duct tape wrapped around the entire shin area because more of the tape residue would have been found than an inch on one leg and an inch on the other leg.

Snipped by me. So, she was too depressed to take a shower, but took the time to wax her legs?

 

[Carioca]

Snipped by me. So, she was too depressed to take a shower, but took the time to wax her legs?

:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Snipped by me. So, she was too depressed to take a shower, but took the time to wax her legs?

No that is not what I am saying. She may have removed the hair on her legs before Max was gravely injured and either did not have time or just didn't feel like showering after then or was in a hurry and simply missed getting it all off.

It sure wasnt duct tape that would have been wrapped around her entire shin/calf area for the residue would have been found in a lot more areas than just a small inch of it on either leg in the shin area.

IMO

 

[time]

He sounds like a control freak!! My gosh, makes me wonder what other 'traits' he has.

Well, yeah, what would be the purpose of investigatin the men in your ex's life? I'd feel really weird if a partner of mine or potential partner was doing that, but imagine being that guy in that scenario. Of course, I wonder if they knew.

 

[colette]

<modsnip>? It's a possible evidence of a crime-how can it be painted over? It makes no sense.

LE took the entire door with them, they said this in the Q&A part of press conference.

 

[CuriousHousewife]

I imagine that forensics would be able to determine the difference between adhesive used to remove hair an adhesive on duct tape. I would be interested in the outcome of those chemical tests. There's really no need for speculation if they were thorough.

 

[jjenny]

LE took the entire door with them, they said this in the Q&A part of press conference.

I know that. So how can they have painted it over?

 

[SleuthyMama]

The reason that the cops did not mention the duct tape, imo, is because it was not necessarily a part of this case. The amount of residue was like 3/4 of an inch on one shin, and about the same on the other. That does not seem like someone was using it to imprison anyone. I think they figured out it was tape she used when she ran because of shin splints. imoo

Very small percentage of suicide victims actually ever leave a note. That was posted upthread somewhere.

We do not know what her true mental health history was. Plenty of people have mental health issues that are never recorded in any way for LE to see or shared with their families even.

BBM. But if they think she was naked because she had just taken a shower, wouldn't she have washed off any of this residue in the shower? Why would she still have it on her shins at that point?

 

[CuriousHousewife]

Well, yeah, what would be the purpose of investigatin the men in your ex's life? I'd feel really weird if a partner of mine or potential partner was doing that, but imagine being that guy in that scenario. Of course, I wonder if they knew.

If you are a millionaire or stand to lose quite a bit if you are mixed up with the wrong people, I can imagine this kind of investigation, particularly if your new girlfriend doesn't also "come from money" and may have a questionable background (not saying she did).

I do think that JS sounds like he had the upper hand for sure, but some women like that.

 

[jjenny]

Re: MS&#8217; fall

Wasn&#8217;t the 911 girl caller said to have been &#8220;hysterical&#8221; on the call?

Would she be "hysterical" if she didn't witness the fall?
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TIA

I've never seen a 911 caller in this case described as hysterical.

 

[Quester]

I've never seen a 911 caller in this case described as hysterical.

You must have missed early posts that did describe her as being "hysterical" and that that was the word used per police archives from July 11th.

the caller was hysterical..according to dispatch..

RN thread #3, post #757

 

[scorekeeper]

The reason that the cops did not mention the duct tape, imo, is because it was not necessarily a part of this case. The amount of residue was like 3/4 of an inch on one shin, and about the same on the other. That does not seem like someone was using it to imprison anyone. I think they figured out it was tape she used when she ran because of shin splints. imoo

Very small percentage of suicide victims actually ever leave a note. That was posted upthread somewhere.

We do not know what her true mental health history was. Plenty of people have mental health issues that are never recorded in any way for LE to see or shared with their families even.

BBM

But LE said she wasn't exercising........had quit in January and had lost weight.

And that information is BECAUSE they didn't talk to anyone about what she had been doing the past couple of months.....only in January

So they should have checked out the tape residue.

 

[scorekeeper]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/shenego...riends-last-note-inconsistent-with-suicide/3/

In FORBES as of 3AM re the door: 'The family attorney, Bremner, stressed that the handwriting has since been painted over – “whited out” – so no further analyses are possible.'

and who did that...the "whited out"

 

[jjenny]

and who did that...the "whited out"

I really hope it's a mistake (in the article) and the message has not been painted over. Since police removed the door how could they paint it over?

 

[SunnieRN]

The police would not necessarily know if she had any mental health issues if she never declared them or was sent for hospitalization or reported by someone.

As I have said several times, she had several huge mental health stressors happening all at once. And she had the recent shoplifting arrest, which may indicate she had some issues. All at once she had very stressful circumstances like her divorce, moving in with JS, taking care of his kids, some who disliked her, taking care of the mansion with no staff or help. Jonah is known to be a temperamental perfectionist with a bad temper, and she must have felt pressure. She gave up her job, which she was good at and left that life to be w/Jonah. All of that together is a 10 on the Richter scale of emotional stress. If you add this tragic deadly accident to that situation you haver the recipe for a mental breakdown, imo/

Yes, she had stressors, but if LE was trying to insinuate that this was a suicide due to mental distress, imho they did a VERY poor job.

The average person can be down or depressed over things temporarily. We all have stressors in our lives on a daily basis. Rebecca seemed active and capable of handling things in her life. I am not sure that she could keep from her family that she had emotional/mental health issues, for 32 years. That is not how mental illness works, if you are close to someone.

We also, at this point, have no idea whether or not there was staff at the mansion. Who were the people packing up and leaving after the incidents? It is possible they were 'hired hep'.

That's rumor only. LE stated only 2 people other than Max per RN.

There is a lot that was 'stated' in the PC by LE, but I think the PC will go down in history for what didn't get released to the public. There is much more to this story coming out on a daily basis.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/shenego...riends-last-note-inconsistent-with-suicide/3/

In FORBES as of 3AM re the door: 'The family attorney, Bremner, stressed that the handwriting has since been painted over – “whited out” – so no further analyses are possible.'

So, if the door has been released, due to the investigation being closed, then who painted over the message and why? If JS went to AZ, with Ocean, and according to some posters, there is no hired help, who did paint over it?

 

[SunnieRN]

Also, regarding hysteria during a 911 call, I believe that any 13 year old would have been hysterical under those circumstances, especially if they understood that the child wasn't breathing and didn't have a pulse. I don't think that is any indication of being a witness.

 

[scorekeeper]

Of course it makes sense. No one is going to let a message stay up on a door without painting it white again.

But I have no doubt that LE took very close up photos of the writing and also made a video of the entire room including the door.

I'm sorry......I would not paint over it.....wouldn't you take it down, sand it and then repaint????? My gosh, this guy is a millionaire......

Did the police paint over it......WHY?

 

[jjenny]

Also, regarding hysteria during a 911 call, I believe that any 13 year old would have been hysterical under those circumstances, especially if they understood that the child wasn't breathing and didn't have a pulse. I don't think that is any indication of being a witness.

I agree, a 13 year old wouldn't have to witness the fall to become hysterical.
It would be really important for us to hear 911 call (both of them). What exactly was said? How was it said? Why haven't they been released?

 

[chasing.halos]

Well, yeah, what would be the purpose of investigatin the men in your ex's life? I'd feel really weird if a partner of mine or potential partner was doing that, but imagine being that guy in that scenario. Of course, I wonder if they knew.

They did know. And they were scared off big time. JS seemed to find something that worked as far as keeping men away from DS. No clue what his reasons were though. IMHO, an exhibition of power.

 

[alexanderdavis]

What do "inside sources" say about RN's ability to tie these type of knots? Were there reasons she would have known how to tie this knots used in boating?

This is another reasons why the LE should have interviewed her family.
After all, in a missing persons case....that is where they start their investigation.
I say put all the info out and people will help solve this case by what they saw, what they knew, etc.