CA - Rebecca Zahau Nalepa - suicide or murder? #10

[scorekeeper]

WOW, finally caught up...LOL

I'm not sure about the conspiracy theory but if the Sheriff is a controlling guy, he definitely could sway the way the investigation went and what information was gathered, questions asked, what items were processed or not processed....did he feel like JS did from the get-go that it was a suicide and had the investigation go in that direction even though the one and only press conference led us to believe it was also being looked at as a possible homicide....

Without the release of the 911 calls, interviews, video survelliance tapes, cell phone records, detective reports, and on and on......perhaps RNs death was not really investigated as a possible homicide...

Hope I'm making sense....

 

[Peaceful]

This link was posted a few threads back but will post again as is pertinent to elementry's comment:
snipped : Gore is a member of the “good old boys’ network” of San Diego political corruption. : snipped

Gather your own opinion, but I recommend reading the article in full for an insight into [gotta love it!] Bill "I invented Science" Gore (Elementry, you crack me up :floorlaugh:

http://angiemedia.com/2010/04/20/bill-gore-is-poor-choice-for-san-diego-sheriff/

Holy ****. Thank you Carioca! What an interesting article. a MUST READ everyone!

 

[mysticrose]

Not sure if this was posted, but it left me scratching my head :waitasec:

New Information Raises Questions About Rebecca Zahau's Death
Submitted by Alvin Lin on September 8, 2011

Recent evidence suggests that Rebecca Zahau did not commit suicide, as was originally concluded by San Diego police.

SNIPPED................................................................................................................

Why does her skull have four separate, major blunt trauma wounds on it?
Why were there bruises and blood found on the body when investigators arrived?
Why is there evidence that a t-shirt was used to gag her, with t-shirt fragments found in her mouth?
How is it possible that Zahau was able to tie her own hands behind her back prior to hanging herself?
Why is there evidence of adhesive tape residue on her legs and body?
Why would Zahau choose to commit suicide in such a humiliating way?
The supposed suicide note painted on the bedroom said "She saved him, can he save her?" This note was painted at a height much taller than Zahau's 5 foot 3 height and does not match her handwriting. Why is this considered a suicide note (and not a chilling third-person message from her murderer), and why hasn't there been any work to try to match her handwriting?
Why did Adam Shacknai, Jonah's brother who was living on the premises and reported the death, cut Zahau's body from hanging before the police arrived? He did not do it to protect the exposed body, as her body was still naked when authorities arrived.

http://www.hyphenmagazine.com/blog/...n-raises-questions-about-rebecca-zahaus-death

 

[arielilane]

This is from the autopsy report that was graciously downloaded in the other thread.

What is it about a few items of women's clothing and makeup wipes being in the guesthouse. Am I reading that right? Sorry if this has already been posted but this thread moves too fast and if you walk away for a few hours you're way behind.

I'm playing catch up and it will take forever. This is interesting news. I believe GS would have her own room in the main house and not reside in the guest house.

We have been discussing that, as well as the fact that LE did not state if they knew who the clothes belonged to.:waitasec:

Any new information on this?

 

[sorrell skye]

Not sure if this was posted, but it left me scratching my head :waitasec:

New Information Raises Questions About Rebecca Zahau's Death
Submitted by Alvin Lin on September 8, 2011

Recent evidence suggests that Rebecca Zahau did not commit suicide, as was originally concluded by San Diego police.

SNIPPED................................................................................................................

Why does her skull have four separate, major blunt trauma wounds on it?
Why were there bruises and blood found on the body when investigators arrived?
Why is there evidence that a t-shirt was used to gag her, with t-shirt fragments found in her mouth?
How is it possible that Zahau was able to tie her own hands behind her back prior to hanging herself?
Why is there evidence of adhesive tape residue on her legs and body?
Why would Zahau choose to commit suicide in such a humiliating way?
The supposed suicide note painted on the bedroom said "She saved him, can he save her?" This note was painted at a height much taller than Zahau's 5 foot 3 height and does not match her handwriting. Why is this considered a suicide note (and not a chilling third-person message from her murderer), and why hasn't there been any work to try to match her handwriting?
Why did Adam Shacknai, Jonah's brother who was living on the premises and reported the death, cut Zahau's body from hanging before the police arrived? He did not do it to protect the exposed body, as her body was still naked when authorities arrived.

http://www.hyphenmagazine.com/blog/...n-raises-questions-about-rebecca-zahaus-death

I agree with many of the questions this article raises, but I would like to correct some of the points.

1. AS wasn't living on the premises. He was a guest who came to town after MS's tragic accident, reportedly to support his brother (MS's father).

2. I don't know if I agree that the message was painted at a height much taller than Zahau's 5 foot 3 height, since we don't know how high the message was painted. In the photo I've seen, it didn't look particularly high.

Other than that, I agree with the questions raised.

 

[arielilane]

This link was posted a few threads back but will post again as is pertinent to elementry's comment:
snipped : Gore is a member of the “good old boys’ network” of San Diego political corruption. : snipped

Gather your own opinion, but I recommend reading the article in full for an insight into [gotta love it!] Bill "I invented Science" Gore (Elementry, you crack me up :floorlaugh:

http://angiemedia.com/2010/04/20/bill-gore-is-poor-choice-for-san-diego-sheriff/

Holy ****. Thank you Carioca! What an interesting article. a MUST READ everyone!

It is a must read. I'm not a fan of Gore at all! I have read a lot about 9/11 and I don't recall reading about the terrorist training in SD. I remember must of it in FL and maybe LA. But, don't quote me on that. Gore still let the people down...not impressed.

 

[curiousjo]

I would guess that the Ronald McDonald house doesn't have the same level of surveillance to verify absolutely the whereabouts of its users, as opposed to the hospital's ability. Maybe though.

I agree. Would think it may be easy to say I am going back to hospital (or Ronald McD House), but really be going home .......

 

[DEPUTYDAWG]

I don't think you need a flame suit for voicing your [expert] opinion. You, as well as all of us, should be able to debate/state what's on our minds in a mature manner.

That said, would it be possible for LE to slant investigation in one direction or another due either to their beliefs or pressure from higher ups? It seems as if they pulled out all stops slanted towards suicide while not mentioning some pesky facts.

I thought at first she was murdered, now I'm on the fence. Perhaps it did happen as they theorized, it's possible, but is it probable? A few things need to be clarified for me to say one way or another.

Thank you.

Sure, it's possible to "lead" an investigation...but to lead one from one manner of death to another, I would think it would be difficult. Not impossible, as we've all probably seen in past cases.

I'll be honest, I haven't followed this case closely whatsoever, just read through it periodically to see if there's really been any breaking news, etc. I have NOT read the articles about the Sheriff yet...and boy, it sounds like I should! So I couldn't even say he's a controlling ex-FBI guy or anything...think I'll go read up on the dear Sheriff.

Anyone have any real local history or feeling of what his department is all about besides this case? Are they known for doing good work, or being corrupt or ? What kind of flavor does he give to his department? Anyone with personal knowledge know? I've seen (and worked for) great Sheriffs, and I've seen some sorry a** leaders in other departments. In my current position, we absolutely rely on other agencies, and we've got some strong ones around here, and some that are real yahooooooooooooooos, LOL.

Back to this case, I hope it isn't/wasn't a corrupt investigation...one of my pet peeves is rushes to judgement to suicide, to cover up homicides. It's the lazy way out, IMO.

Going to read about the Sheriff :seeya:

 

[SunnieRN]

I'm playing catch up and it will take forever. This is interesting news. I believe GS would have her own room in the main house and not reside in the guest house.

Any new information on this?

Nice to see you! No new news on the women's clothing in the guest house. I wonder where that clothing would be located now. I have a feeling that unfortunately a lot of the 'evidence' us no longer available.

 

[Peaceful]

I apologize in advance if this is a duplicate post but I found this interesting article regarding the differences in autopsy reports between a hanging and a strangulation. I would love to hear opinions on this. I am trying to find the darn autopsy reports and I can't. Grrr. Lost in old posts somewhere. if anyone has the links to the reports handy, I'd be super grateful!

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0379073803002792

 

[Winnts]

Ughh blown margins drive me crazy. Can't wait for more posts to get me to the next page.

 

[sorrell skye]

I apologize in advance if this is a duplicate post but I found this interesting article regarding the differences in autopsy reports between a hanging and a strangulation. I would love to hear opinions on this. I am trying to find the darn autopsy reports and I can't. Grrr. Lost in old posts somewhere. if anyone has the links to the reports handy, I'd be super grateful!

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0379073803002792

RZ AR:

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&...TItOWM1Mi00NGE4LWEyZDgtMjc3OWUxZTYzYmY5&hl=en

MS AR:

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&...DctZGRjMy00ODVkLTk1YWItODAxZjAxMzE5OTVl&hl=en

 

[CalElliot]

Does anyone recall the source of the quote "....this was never being investigated as a homicide." that ran the day before the press conference?

Also, does anyone recall the source of the LE quote about theirs being an "iron-clad" case?

TIA

 

[deanna82437]

Dr. Drew is covering it .. HLN

 

[arielilane]

Be sure and read the comments ..

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusiv...get-jonah-shacknai-s-ex-wife-dina-says-sister

Those comments are jacked up! It's easy to post on the Internet and hide behind your monitor...
That's what is great about WS. It's a class act.

 

[Peaceful]

Has everyone seen the article that says that JS hired his own private investigator in the wake of these incidents? here it is:

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusiv...e-investigator-after-max-rebecca-zahau-deaths

I researched the named company he hired and they are not private investigators, they are private SECURITY. This is a phony cover that even encourages the idea that JS wanted to know what had happened. This was not the case and inaccurately reported. I guess you can't expect much more from radaronline.

 

[Peaceful]

Does anyone recall the source of the quote "....this was never being investigated as a homicide." that ran the day before the press conference?

Also, does anyone recall the source of the LE quote about theirs being and "iron-clad" case?

TIA

The phrase ironclad was used in the PC. You should find it on san diego news 8.

 

[arielilane]

RZ AR:

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&...TItOWM1Mi00NGE4LWEyZDgtMjc3OWUxZTYzYmY5&hl=en

MS AR:

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&...DctZGRjMy00ODVkLTk1YWItODAxZjAxMzE5OTVl&hl=en

Thank you, sorrell skye. I was unaware that Max's was released.

 

[curiousjo]

Does anyone recall the source of the quote "....this was never being investigated as a homicide." that ran the day before the press conference?

Also, does anyone recall the source of the LE quote about theirs being and "iron-clad" case?

TIA

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"Ironclad" may have started with this article, then spead everywhere:"A source close to the situation tells RadarOnline.com: "Rebecca killed herself. That is what the investigation determined. There was no foul play, and the evidence is ironclad that Rebecca killed herself."
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusiv...-girlfriend-rebecca-zahau-death-ruled-suicide

Just interesting article where RN trainer says she was planning a party on Tuesday night..."Another witness — a fitness trainer at Zahau’s gym — said that on the Saturday before her death, Zahau was planning a party at the mansion for Tuesday night. Police initially received reports from neighbors that a party took place on Tuesday night, or at least loud music was heard, the day after Shacknai’s son Max took his fatal fall down the house stairs.
http://www.bnet.com/blog/drug-busin...to-the-rope-the-party-and-the-reputation/9243

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Has everyone seen the article that says that JS hired his own private investigator in the wake of these incidents? here it is:

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusiv...e-investigator-after-max-rebecca-zahau-deaths

I researched the named company he hired and they are not private investigators, they are private SECURITY. This is a phony cover that even encourages the idea that JS wanted to know what had happened. This was not the case and inaccurately reported. I guess you can't expect much more from radaronline.

I can see why he hired private security with his son mysteriously falling with no eye witnesses and then losing his girlfriend too.

He probably thought someone was stalking him and the ones closest to him.

IMO