CANADA Canada - Billionaire Couple Barry & Honey Sherman Murdered at Home, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #24

[fadedglitter]

Interesting supposition.
If only Honey was the target, the estate would have gone to Barry.
With Barry still alive, the Police would consider him the #1 suspect. If the intention was to only kill Honey, then was the plan to stage her body alone?

Because of the staging involved, for both bodies, I think both Sherman's were targeted from the outset, and the murderer(s) were willing to wait for Barry, whenever he got home.

It is hard for me to see a motive for killing Honey alone, by anybody other than her spouse. Since the evidence at the scene does not support Barry killing Honey, and then himself, I believe both were targeted from the outset.

No real financial benefit to Barry to kill Honey either, as he already controlled the finances.

(Snip)

I guess I’ll point out that if you don’t assume the murderer is the immediate heir, other motives become possible.

Here’s a theory I don’t personally believe, but that would leave you with the same murderer many suspect. (As I think is obvious, I do not think any of the heirs murdered the Shermans.)

Barry was telling everyone who would listen that he did not want to move. He thought 50 OCR was worth more than it was, and he did not think there was a need to move to Honey’s dream home. He was going along with it for her. At the same time, he had a liquidity problem. He was calling loans and cutting people off financially while speaking about gifting a large sum to Honey that might have gone directly to her sister.

What if one of those people thought that getting Honey out of the way would return Barry to his usual generosity? And what if that person would also benefit from framing Barry for murdering Honey? That person might be in a position to believe they would be able to control Barry’s entire fortune if he was imprisoned, and then inherit at Barry’s death.

I don’t think this (well, I don’t think the last part). But if the murderer is indeed a spiteful money-hungry heir, this would be the fastest way to get their evil hands on the cash without tying it up in probate for years.

 

[wibbleflea]

I frequently wonder if the murderer went to the home to threaten, harm or kill Honey, thinking, in error, that Barry would not be home until 11pm. When he arrived earlier than the murderer expected, the murderer may have needed to improvise.

I’ve thought of this as a strong possibility for some time. I wonder if the TPS believe it as a possible outcome, too. The absence of assistants and staff, the trips of various Apotex people, detailed knowledge of the meeting at home that night that Barry came back early for – it makes it much easier if we assume that the killer(s) knew none of these things.

Barry would initially discover Honey missing (who knows what the plan might originally have been for her after her death? All we know is what happened after BS came home early and had to be killed himself). He would fall under suspicion when her body was found. The belt used to tie HS to the railing was (according to KD’s later reporting, at least) not necessarily one of the two from Canadian Tire. Could the killer have brought just one belt?

Barry would have been suspect number one, there’d have been a huge kerfuffle surrounding Apotex, emails would have been discovered about the arguments between BS and HS, and KW would have popped up to say what he popped up and said anyway, along the lines of “He finally did it. He killed her.” And there’d have been the story about Barry asking KW to get Honey killed.

A killer who knew that at least some of these things would happen would also expect there to be a wait before a) Barry discovered Honey in the unused pool room and b) any footage of the night walker came to light, assuming he’s anything to do with this at all. Suspicion fell on Barry, even with him dead. Had he been alive and the only person to discover Honey, the police would make up their minds pretty quickly and more firmly.

Apotex and Barry’s own life would have been chaos for some time. If the killer originally didn’t want Barry dead (quite the opposite), the killer’s intentions may have been quite different. He/they may have been horrified at the idea of killing Barry. I could go a step further but it’s probably a step too far for this forum

 

[ldlager]

Interesting supposition.
If only Honey was the target, the estate would have gone to Barry.
With Barry still alive, the Police would consider him the #1 suspect. If the intention was to only kill Honey, then was the plan to stage her body alone?

Because of the staging involved, for both bodies, I think both Sherman's were targeted from the outset, and the murderer(s) were willing to wait for Barry, whenever he got home.

It is hard for me to see a motive for killing Honey alone, by anybody other than her spouse. Since the evidence at the scene does not support Barry killing Honey, and then himself, I believe both were targeted from the outset.

No real financial benefit to Barry to kill Honey either, as he already controlled the finances.

Finally regarding nobody working at the house on Thursday, it could be just a coincidence, like a number of other odd occurrences in this crime. I just hope the TPS carefully investigated this aspect of the case.

What if the killer assumed or had even been told by HS that he/she was being left a very large sum of money in HS’s Will? And HS also led the killer to believe that she had executed a Will to that effect. Wouldn’t that be a possible motivation for someone other than BS to murder her?

 

[fadedglitter]

What if the killer assumed or had even been told by HS that he/she was being left a very large sum of money in HS’s Will? And HS also led the killer to believe that she had executed a Will to that effect. Wouldn’t that be a possible motivation for someone other than BS to murder her?

This is just a twist on the “the heir did it” theory, with the twist being that the murderer only *believed* themselves to be the heir.

Related: I continue to think it is bizarre that there is not a single mention of Honey’s sister’s husband in the unredacted sections of the ITOs, considering that the redactions are in place to prevent people from learning the direction of the investigation.

 

[Sor Juana]

Police turn to an AI tool to investigate Sherman murders

The Star’s ongoing push for information on the Sherman murders
A Star reporter first went to court in March 2018, asking a judge to unseal the early search warrant information in the case. Search warrants filed in court contain witness statements from family, friends and business associates; forensic results; cellular phone records; vehicle GPS data; security video; and police theories. The Star has returned roughly every six months to renew its request, seeking access to all additional search warrant documents filed in court by police. The court has allowed the Star reporter to cross-examine the detective during these hearings to unseal documents.
To date, about half of the 4,000 warrant pages have been unsealed, allowing the public a great deal of insight into many of the mistakes made in the Sherman investigation. Among them, failure to properly canvas the neighbourhood or obtain security video in a timely fashion; the misdiagnosis of murder-suicide; failure to obtain alibis from key individuals; and asking the wrong question for the first six weeks (police asked interview subjects why Barry would kill Honey, instead of asking who would have murdered them.) (From Daily Canadian news and the world)

 

[FromGermany1]

What if the killer assumed or had even been told by HS that he/she was being left a very large sum of money in HS’s Will? And HS also led the killer to believe that she had executed a Will to that effect. Wouldn’t that be a possible motivation for someone other than BS to murder her?

To get a very large sum from Honey, while she is alive, would that exclude a murderer from the list?

 

[fadedglitter]

To get a very large sum from Honey, while she is alive, would that exclude a murderer from the list?

I don’t think it would exclude anyone. The names most commonly mentioned by amateur sleuthers are all people who received very large sums from the Shermans.

Murder while hoping to directly inherit would have been the most risky, difficult, and time-consuming way to get a large sum from them. The best way to get millions of dollars from Barry was to ask. Just before he was murdered, he gifted hundreds of thousands to his son to cover surrogacy costs. He was sending emails to friends offering to help their kids financially. The liquidity issue in late 2017 was temporary.

 

[WINDSOR]

I guess I’ll point out that if you don’t assume the murderer is the immediate heir, other motives become possible.

Here’s a theory I don’t personally believe, but that would leave you with the same murderer many suspect. (As I think is obvious, I do not think any of the heirs murdered the Shermans.)

Barry was telling everyone who would listen that he did not want to move. He thought 50 OCR was worth more than it was, and he did not think there was a need to move to Honey’s dream home. He was going along with it for her. At the same time, he had a liquidity problem. He was calling loans and cutting people off financially while speaking about gifting a large sum to Honey that might have gone directly to her sister.

What if one of those people thought that getting Honey out of the way would return Barry to his usual generosity? And what if that person would also benefit from framing Barry for murdering Honey? That person might be in a position to believe they would be able to control Barry’s entire fortune if he was imprisoned, and then inherit at Barry’s death.

I don’t think this (well, I don’t think the last part). But if the murderer is indeed a spiteful money-hungry heir, this would be the fastest way to get their evil hands on the cash without tying it up in probate for years.

Of course for a spouse-killer, hate is a great motive, even when no riches are expected.

I stated previously that I believed 'Barry's liquidity problem', was a red herring. The only person we know for sure he was calling loans on was Jonathon. If Barry had a real liquidity problems, it does not make sense he was selling Old Colony and building a new $30 million home. If Barry needed cash he could get a loan anywhere with Apotex shares as collateral. Alternatively he could take part of Apotex public, do an IPO and have $ billions. The corporate real estate Apotex owned was worth over $500 million alone.

If you think probate is time consuming consider how long a murder trial for Barry, and the subsequent appeals would take. If eventually Barry did end up in prison, Barry would still be the rightful owner and controller of his assets. I do not see, as long as Barry was alive 'a spiteful money-hungry heir, could get their hands on Barry's assets.

Now Barry could have been expected to live another 10 years at least, maybe somebody did not want to wait that long. MOO

 

[Lexiintoronto]

Donovan’s book says Barrry missed FDA’s Tuesday party because the meeting with the architects was originally scheduled at the same time. It was moved to Wednesday at the last minute and there was not enough time for Barry to make it to the party so he had lunch with Brad instead.

Honey missed charity meetings on the 12th and 14th without giving notice. After the meeting on the 12th, someone followed up with her by email and she immediately responded that she was dealing with some stuff.

Honey’s emails contained one that was summarized in the ITOs as:
Coffee planned with Susan STERN @ noon
December 14th, 2017

And also as:

On December 8th, 2017 at 6:13 AM, Honey SHERMAN sent an email to
Susan STERN planning to meet for coffee on December 14th in the
afternoon.

And now an observation from me: if Susan Stern responded and agreed to meet, we don’t know about it, and she didn’t raise any alarms when Honey did not show up. This coffee date would have been after the all-morning UJA board meeting Honey eventually missed. It isn’t confirmed in the ITOs and I don’t recall any coverage from Donovan about the missed coffee date (his coverage strongly implies her calendar was free on Thursday).

Does anyone recall any interviews with Susan Stern (not Elise, the real estate agent)?

Her name has come up before, but I don’t recall any interviews with her.

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There could be a few Sterns connected to the Shermans, so I don’t know if the person pictured above is the same one mentioned the ITOs.

 

[WINDSOR]

We do not know if the TPS has identified the Walking Man from their video. The TPS implied that this person was likely involved directly with the Sherman deaths.

What could be the reasons he has not been identified?

Somebody who knows who it is, has not seen the video.
Somebody who knows who it is, and has seen the video is afraid to talk.
The Walking Man died soon after the Sherman's and nobody connects the two events.

If the Walking Man is dead, and/or people are afraid to talk, is there any chance of solving this case?

 

[fadedglitter]

The police can close a case where the murderer is deceased. This is a pretty common scenario. They typically talk to the family first and then make a public announcement. Sometimes they explain what their investigation determined and why they believe nobody else is involved; sometimes they don’t.

Here’s an unrelated example: Alberta RCMP link four historical homicides to deceased serial killer | Royal Canadian Mounted Police

 

[WINDSOR]

The police can close a case where the murderer is deceased. This is a pretty common scenario. They typically talk to the family first and then make a public announcement. Sometimes they explain what their investigation determined and why they believe nobody else is involved; sometimes they don’t.

Here’s an unrelated example: Alberta RCMP link four historical homicides to deceased serial killer | Royal Canadian Mounted Police

Good point, but if the Walking Man is dead, and the TPS still do not know who he was, they cannot close the case can they?

 

[ldlager]

We do not know if the TPS has identified the Walking Man from their video. The TPS implied that this person was likely involved directly with the Sherman deaths.

What could be the reasons he has not been identified?

Somebody who knows who it is, has not seen the video.
Somebody who knows who it is, and has seen the video is afraid to talk.
The Walking Man died soon after the Sherman's and nobody connects the two events.

If the Walking Man is dead, and/or people are afraid to talk, is there any chance of solving this case?

Similarly, if only he knows who he is, he can live the rest of his life as he wishes

 

[WINDSOR]

Similarly, if only he knows who he is, he can live the rest of his life as he wishes

Pretty sure the person who solicited the Walking Man to do the murders knows who he is. If my hunch that the Walking Man is a expert in this type of crime, (Based on the fact that he left the crime scene with minimal forensic evidence) probably he is also known to a small number of other individuals.
MOO

 

[dotr]

By GERRY POSNER lengthy, rbbm.

Jack Kay: A long way from Redwood Avenue

By GERRY POSNER Jacob Moses Koslofsky has come a long distance in many ways. First of all, his parents, Zachary and Rae, had their name changed to Kay. Second, from the depths of the north end of Winnipeg, he ended up – after stops in Weyburn, Regina, and Montreal – in Toronto, where he has […]

jewishpostandnews.ca

''In 2017, as most readers likely recall, Barry and Honey Sherman were murdered in their home (in a case that remains unsolved.) Jack took over running the operation of the company, but one year later he was let go by one of the Sherman children. Jack is not exactly on the street though and, in fact, he is on the board of a couple other pharmaceutical start ups, including one with the legendary Aubrey Dan focused on the sale of drugs in the cannabis field designed to help with anxiety and depression.
His life is rather busy. In April 2017 Jack and Barry Sherman (eight months prior to his murder) were approached to assist with a project called “Neshama Hospice,” a palliative care residence with 10-12 beds and intended to be a place with Jewish values. They both agreed to donate a million dollars for the project and, with government support, the construction on that building is scheduled to start next year.
I asked Jack Kay if he thought that the murders of the Shermans would ever be solved and he said he doubted it. But, he did add this caveat.:Given the amount of money out there as a reward, it is possible that mouths might start to open.
The Jack Kay story is indeed a remarkable one given the modest beginnings to a star studded career and his role as an integral part of a large empire world renowned… all the way from Redwood Avenue. And Jack Kay has never forgotten from whence he came.''

 

[Kerry Winter]

Justice Porter to Detective Yin;

 

[WINDSOR]

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This fact points to my theory the TPS knows who, what, where, when and why. They do not need to interrogate anybody else. They are just collecting more corroborating evidence to create a solid winnable court case. MOO

 

[MerlinFalcon]

This fact points to my theory the TPS knows who, what, where, when and why. They do not need to interrogate anybody else. They are just collecting more corroborating evidence to create a solid winnable court case. MOO

Either that or they don’t have a clue. I hope you’re right, though.

 

[ldlager]

This fact points to my theory the TPS knows who, what, where, when and why. They do not need to interrogate anybody else. They are just collecting more corroborating evidence to create a solid winnable court case. MOO

I would think that even if they knew who what where when why, and were just collecting more corroborating evidence, they would still be interviewing people to try and obtain this additional evidence. But apparently they aren’t.

 

[dotr]

Aug. 21, 2025

Billionaire Toronto couple Honey and Barry Sherman honoured with Vaughan hockey arena

The billionaire founder of Apotex Barry Sherman and his wife Honey Sherman are being remembered with the opening of a Vaughan arena and park in their name on Thursday.

www.thestar.com

''The Sherman’s only son, Jonathon, fully funded the construction and launch of the arena, making a $52 million donation in June to honour his parents with the facility. This donation also provides funding for program subsidies to “ensure an inclusive approach to community engagement,” allowing more families to band together over the game of hockey.
“It is incredibly special to celebrate the opening of the Honey and Barry Memorial Arena in honour of my late parents’ lives,” said Jonathon. “My parents believed in hard work and helping others, and the HBMA is a lasting testament to these very ideals.”

August 21 2025

Honouring the legacy of Honey and Barry Sherman | City of Vaughan

Today, the City of Vaughan officially renamed Wood Valley Park to Honey and Barry Memorial Park, to honour the profound philanthropic legacy of Honey and Barry Sherman.

www.vaughan.ca

“I would like to thank the City of Vaughan for renaming this park the Honey and Barry Memorial Park. Parks are more than just grass and jungle gyms – they are places that draw in community from all walks of life to join in play, social engagement, and reflection. Knowing that this park is adjacent to the new Honey and Barry Memorial Arena makes it all the more special that the City chose this fitting tribute in honour of my parents."
- Jonathan Sherman''