Canada, Greenland, Mexico, etc - USA Tariffs / Trade War commencing March 2025 #5

[keek]

Apparently, Trump is not aware that the US took in refugees from 'the Congo' in 2021 and 2022 ... some during his own presidency.


About 12,600 refugees from the Democratic Republic of Congo arrived in the U.S. from fiscal years 2021 to 2022 (latest figures available).
Fiscal year 2021, which ran from Oct. 1, 2020, to Sept. 30, 2021, includes a few months of the Trump administration.
The numbers of refugees from the Republic of Congo were in the single digits annually for Trump and Biden. Refugees arrive in the U.S. legally and must pass security background checks before being let into the country.

Donald Trump’s repeated falsehood about Congolese immigrants

A persistent theme of former President Donald Trump’s false immigration rhetoric is that immigrants are pouring across t

www.politifact.com

Yes, I do remember her outfit. Never there was and never will there be, PLEASE, another one of her. Get rid of him and his ilk and there will not be. Again, is this all even real?? IMO

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Apparently, Trump is not aware that the US took in refugees from 'the Congo' in 2021 and 2022 ... some during his own presidency.

I wonder if he's going to go after them and deport them...

 

[Lilibet]

Anyone remember Melania's photo-op wardrobe tour of Africa where she wore the really stupid pith helmet hat that was so offensive?

That's the level of engagement the Trumps have with Africa/

BBM
Honestly, the Trumps have zero level of engagement with anyone who doesn’t benefit them. The words “public servant” certainly don’t apply.

JMO

 

[Herat]

Meanwhile, the US does continue to freely export something to both Canada and Mexico at this very moment:

MEASLES

Canada is reporting the largest outbreak of measles in 28 years, mostly, but not exclusively, in unvaccinated Mennonite populations. 79% of the case have been in unvaccinated people with 16% in people of unknown status.

"Canada has reported more than 730 cases this year, making this one of the worst measles outbreaks in the country since it declared the virus “eliminated” in 1998. Mexico has seen at least 360 measles cases and one death, most of them in the northern state of Chihuahua, according to Mexican health authorities. There are also Mennonite communities in Mexico.

Figure 3 of the Canadian Health report really says it all. I'm unable to copy it over for this posting. Perhaps someone else can.

Measles and Rubella Weekly Monitoring Report — Canada.ca

Weekly surveillance reports and monitoring maps for measles and rubella. Data are updated every Monday.

health-infobase.canada.ca

 

[acutename]

Apparently, Trump is not aware that the US took in refugees from 'the Congo' in 2021 and 2022 ... some during his own presidency.


"About 12,600 refugees from the Democratic Republic of Congo arrived in the U.S. from fiscal years 2021 to 2022 (latest figures available).
Fiscal year 2021, which ran from Oct. 1, 2020, to Sept. 30, 2021, includes a few months of the Trump administration.
The numbers of refugees from the Republic of Congo were in the single digits annually for Trump and Biden. Refugees arrive in the U.S. legally and must pass security background checks before being let into the country."

Donald Trump’s repeated falsehood about Congolese immigrants

A persistent theme of former President Donald Trump’s false immigration rhetoric is that immigrants are pouring across t

www.politifact.com

I call BS:

The "Rare Minerals "of the Democratic Republic of the Congo​

United Nations Economic Commission for Africa
https://repository.uneca.org › handle





The resources of beryllium, rare earths (monazite, euxenite), niobium, tantalum (columbo—tantalite, pyrochlore),zirconium, titanium and germanium are ...

Democratic Republic of Congo's mineral offer to US loaded ...​

Fox Business
https://www.foxbusiness.com › fox-news-world › cong...




Mar 15, 2025 — The DRC has over $20 Trillion of minerals available, according to the DRC-based Panzi Foundation. This includes gold and copper. Importantly ...

Congo offers US, Europe minerals in exchange for peace​

Mining.com
https://www.mining.com › congo-offers-us-europe-min...




Feb 24, 2025 — The DRC remains the world's largest cobalt producer, with 220,000 metric tons of the metal mined last year, data from the US Geological Survey ...

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Measles is one thing that the US could export to the world if they don't get their act together re vaccinations.

 

[Herat]

Measles is one thing that the US could export to the world if they don't get their act together re vaccinations.

Don't worry, we wil make sure that Diet Coke is free of artificial colorings or fluoride and then we will add Vitamin A and whatever garbage Dr. Oz is selling today and sell it to impoverished countries as a measles prophylaxis.

 

[acutename]

Meanwhile, the US does continue to freely export something to both Canada and Mexico at this very moment:

MEASLES

Canada is reporting the largest outbreak of measles in 28 years, mostly, but not exclusively, in unvaccinated Mennonite populations. 79% of the case have been in unvaccinated people with 16% in people of unknown status.

"Canada has reported more than 730 cases this year, making this one of the worst measles outbreaks in the country since it declared the virus “eliminated” in 1998. Mexico has seen at least 360 measles cases and one death, most of them in the northern state of Chihuahua, according to Mexican health authorities. There are also Mennonite communities in Mexico.

Figure 3 of the Canadian Health report really says it all. I'm unable to copy it over for this posting. Perhaps someone else can.

Measles and Rubella Weekly Monitoring Report — Canada.ca

Weekly surveillance reports and monitoring maps for measles and rubella. Data are updated every Monday.

health-infobase.canada.ca

sorry but these folks are not all or recently from the US:

According to a 2017 report, "there are two basic strains of Mennonites in Canada: the Swiss-South German Mennonites came via Pennsylvania, and the Dutch-North German Mennonites came via Russia (Ukraine). In the late 1700s and early 1800s "Swiss" Mennonites from Pennsylvania settled in southern Ontario.

Mennonites - Wikipedia​

Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Mennonites

 

[Herat]

sorry but these folks are not all or recently from the US:

According to a 2017 report, "there are two basic strains of Mennonites in Canada: the Swiss-South German Mennonites came via Pennsylvania, and the Dutch-North German Mennonites came via Russia (Ukraine). In the late 1700s and early 1800s "Swiss" Mennonites from Pennsylvania settled in southern Ontario.​

Mennonites - Wikipedia​

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Wikipedia​

https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Mennonites​

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Yes, but there are substantial family visitations across borders in Mennonite communities, both Canadian and Mexican

 

[Cedars]

Yes, but there are substantial family visitations across borders in Mennonite communities, both Canadian and Mexican

Yes, there was apparently a large gathering, after which people took measles home. Measles outbreak traced back to Mennonite gathering, Ontario’s top doctor says

But it must have been something similar in the US, someone brought it in to the country, or brought it back from somewhere. Happening in Europe too Germany sees dramatic rise in measles cases – DW – 11/27/2024

 

[SouthAussie]

Meanwhile, the US does continue to freely export something to both Canada and Mexico at this very moment:

MEASLES

Canada is reporting the largest outbreak of measles in 28 years, mostly, but not exclusively, in unvaccinated Mennonite populations. 79% of the case have been in unvaccinated people with 16% in people of unknown status.

"Canada has reported more than 730 cases this year, making this one of the worst measles outbreaks in the country since it declared the virus “eliminated” in 1998. Mexico has seen at least 360 measles cases and one death, most of them in the northern state of Chihuahua, according to Mexican health authorities. There are also Mennonite communities in Mexico.

Figure 3 of the Canadian Health report really says it all. I'm unable to copy it over for this posting. Perhaps someone else can.

Measles and Rubella Weekly Monitoring Report — Canada.ca

Weekly surveillance reports and monitoring maps for measles and rubella. Data are updated every Monday.

health-infobase.canada.ca

Here is Figure 3 in your link.
And from your link, there seems to be a massive majority of Canadian measles cases in Ontario. 804 of the total 880 cases, so far.

ETA: I just saw @Cedars post that there was a large Mennonite gathering in Ontario that is responsible for those high numbers in that province.

 

[Herat]

Thank you for posting this chart, SouthAussie.

Let's not forget that Measles is one of the most contagious viral diseases out there. Unlike the common adenoviruses and such that cause the usual colds, Measles has the capacity to cause death, brain damage from encephalitis, deafness and other severe and debilitating neurological side effects as well as miscarriage, low birth weight and other negative pregnancy outcomes.

It does not cause birth defects, as rubella does.

Chicken pox ( Varicella) also causes rashes, but does not have anywhere near the morbidity that Measles does. That is why there used to be Chicken Pox parties decades ago so that kids could all get the Chicken Pox at the same time, recover and have immunity,

No one advocates Measles Parties, as the risk of complications in children or immunocompromised people is so high and the consequences so severe.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

No one advocates Measles Parties, as the risk of complications in children or immunocompromised people is so high and the consequences so severe.

Snipped and bolded for focus

Except MTG:

Marjorie Taylor Greene, a Republican representative from Georgia, put out a message about measles parties on X.

“They used to have measles parties, basically get all the kids together so that all catch it and develop immunity. Then when I was a kid, they did the same thing with chickenpox,” she said. “Now, they demonize parents who refuse to vaccinate their kids.”

https://www.newsnationnow.com/health/measles-party-health-officials-say-no/

 

[SouthAussie]

Not sure that I believe the official US measles figures.

They say there are about 800 cases. Same as Canada (in fact, a little less than Canada), but among a much larger population than Canada.

17% of the official US cases are requiring hospitalisation.


Measles is one of the most contagious infectious diseases, and in some cases can cause severe infections in the lungs and brain that can lead to cognitive issues, deafness or death.
About 1 out of every 1,000 children with measles will develop brain swelling that can lead to brain damage, and up to 3 of every 1,000 children who become infected will die ...
Map shows measles cases across U.S.


The majority of cases are in children who are unvaccinated or have unknown vaccination status, and the overall hospitalization rate is 17%
Measles - United States of America

 

[Herat]

Snipped and bolded for focus

Except MTG:

Marjorie Taylor Greene, a Republican representative from Georgia, put out a message about measles parties on X.

“They used to have measles parties, basically get all the kids together so that all catch it and develop immunity. Then when I was a kid, they did the same thing with chickenpox,” she said. “Now, they demonize parents who refuse to vaccinate their kids.”

https://www.newsnationnow.com/health/measles-party-health-officials-say-no/

There may have been some misguided measles parties in the past, but normally the word went out and the home of children with measles became quarantined. Physicians knew there was a high risk of serious disease and the word went out in a neighborhood or town for children to stay away from homes with measles.

Its a really seriously strong NO in current pediatrics.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

There may have been in the past, but that is a strong firm NO in pediatric healthcare.

I know, I know. I was just pointing out that a sitting member of Congress seemingly advocated such parties.

 

[MelmothTheLost]

Thank you for posting this chart, SouthAussie.

Let's not forget that Measles is one of the most contagious viral diseases out there. Unlike the common adenoviruses and such that cause the usual colds, Measles has the capacity to cause death, brain damage from encephalitis, deafness and other severe and debilitating neurological side effects as well as miscarriage, low birth weight and other negative pregnancy outcomes.

It also has the ability to wipe the immune system's memory, opening up the recovered individual to a whole host of other infections, including those that it previously would have recognised and reacted to. It's how I got chicken pox twice.

Measles erases the immune system’s memory

The measles virus can usher in other infections for months, or even years.

www.sciencenews.org

 

[Lilibet]

There may have been some misguided measles parties in the past, but normally the word went out and the home of children with measles became quarantined. Physicians knew there was a high risk of serious disease and the word went out in a neighborhood or town for children to stay away from homes with measles.

Its a really seriously strong NO in current pediatrics.

When I was a kid in the 50s (born 1946) my Mom hoped to expose me to rubella (then called German measles) so I wouldn’t get it as an adult when I was pregnant. She never succeeded, but I did get regular measles…not at a party though. I also got chicken pox and scarlet fever, but not mumps. Of course, the big scare was polio, so it was a huge relief when the vaccine came out. I had both the shot and sugar cube versions. I was certainly glad there were various vaccinations when our daughter was born in 1970.

JMO

 

[Cedars]

I know, I know. I was just pointing out that a sitting member of Congress seemingly advocated such parties.

Then she should throw a family-oriented measles party for all her friends in Congress and government...with dotted red face painting...Vitamin A treats. Start an epidemic...I mean trend..

 

[BreakingNews]

Don't worry, we wil make sure that Diet Coke is free of artificial colorings or fluoride and then we will add Vitamin A and whatever garbage Dr. Oz is selling today and sell it to impoverished countries as a measles prophylaxis.

That's a bit like drinking bleach for Covid.