Canada, Greenland, Mexico, etc - USA Tariffs / Trade War commencing March 2025 #5

[Centaurus]

So, since Elon is wrapping up DOGE, where are all the arrests? Considering there was supposed to be massive amounts of fraud in the US Govt. And what about my $5K dividend check? Still waiting on that, too.

 

[otto]

So the US sends the one person that is even more grating, condescending, and annoying than Trump for a PR visit?

It's like the new strategy for the day is toxic love bombing.

I guess Canada will be getting a huge box of greasy, sickly orange sweets, with a note saying "I Was Just Joking"

Canadians in general are fairly laid back and easy going, but when a foreign country threatens to take away our quality of life, destroy our Constitution, and wipe out our pristine natural environment, there's no coming back from that. We've been put on notice that there's a rabid dog at the gates and no basket of poison apples will unlock it.

Mr Potty Mouth needs to stay on his side of the "arbitrary lines drawn in pencil" that mark USA borders. Canadians will stay firmly on their side of Canada's clearly defined historic borders.

As for Vance, or whatever his name might be today, if he decides to flounce into Canada then, as with Trump, he has to show respect. Canada is a sovereign country with a Prime Minister and a quality of life that far exceeds the USA. Canada will accept refugees from the USA, but will not accept advice from authoritarian governments.

 

[otto]

"The White House’s latest signs of easing its position on tariffs against China do not indicate a notable advancement in US-China trade talks, but may present Beijing an opportunity to get a better deal, economists said.

“In reality, there hasn’t been any substantial progress or change in the US-China tariff negotiations. But this is [Trump’s] way of signalling to China,” Chen said.

“The more he talks like this, the more it shows how anxious the US side is. Trump and his team are under pressure, but China isn’t showing any signs of impatience.” "

Trump’s ‘anxious’ tariff comments put China in control, analysts say

This was posted here last week - it defines China's position regarding the USA. I don't think that will change today, especially since Trump initially took the position that he's calling the shots. Then he sat around demanding that China should grovel for a deal.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1910861611918671946

 

[Herat]

Trump and his advisors seem to be working on tariffs completely without any realistic plans.

Now he wants to place a tariff of up to 270% on ship-shore industrial cranes, the kind that are used to load and unload containers and other freight from cargo ships Of course, China has large numbers of these huge cranes and are only country that currently makes the large cranes that make US ports operate efficiently. Japan and Europe make smaller cranes, but they are also mixed up in all of Trumps tariff chaos, so from one day to the next no portmaster can predict the long-term budget for crane replacement.

He wants the US to develop a crane-building industry. Experts say it will take at least a decade for the US to be able to ramp up the capacity and technology to do this safely.

Meanwhile, that means US ports will have to pay higher prices to afford to purchase any new or replacement cranes. So it will limit not only IMPORTS from other countries, but will also limit EXPORTS of any US-made goods that are being shipped.

What's the point of that? He's just forever bobbling the concepts before it can ever get started. The US is not coming back as an industrial shipping powerhouse.

https://www.worldcargonews.com/news/2025/04/us-ports-warn-ustr-proposal-could-hike-tariffs-on-chinese-sts-cranes-to-270/

The US Trade Representative is proposing duties of up to 100% on Chinese ship-to-shore cranes, containers and other parts. Because no company currently makes such cranes in the US, it would take at least a decade to build up the industry, said Gene Seroka, executive director of the Port of Los Angeles

 

[Cedars]

Snowbirds are usually retired persons who come from cooler climates including the northern USA, Canada and some northern European countries. When I had a health insurance from their provinces and to maintain the coverage can't be out of the country for more than six months so it's highly unlikely that they stay from October to the end of April, lapsing their insurance and very unlikely they'd just stay there indefinitely. Even those that go in RVs usually have one or two destinations in mind.

And I can remember quite clearly that the US did have lackadaisical manners when I was a teenager, allowing people through customs by asking mainly one question: where were you born. I'd go across with a carful of 18 year olds just like myself and have to repeat the word 'Ta-ranna' over and over again since I was born in England and had a bad habit of calling it 'Toron-TO'. The irony is, out of a handful of teenage girls only one of us was born in Toronto, one was born in Whitby another in Ajax, another in UK (came as a baby) and another in Val D'or, Quebec. Everyone knew where Toronto was, few knew where Whitby and Val D'or were.

Well, I was just saying I actually know people who did this - stayed for most of the year or multiple years, especially living cheaply in an RV or truck, or staying with a partner, or some communal type place.

They could get away with it because US border officers would know when you entered the US, but not when you left. The Canadian border officials would know when you came back, but not when you left. The information sharing agreement was only implemented around 2018, and even then, not all border crossings had the technology Then came the pandemic, so it probably stopped then anyway

Medical insurance doesn't know where you've been or for how long...and many young, healthy people let it lapse. People spend years backpacking around the world, they don't care about their medical insurance.

It was 9/11 in 2001 that created the department of Homeland Security and I think that's when they began a crackdown on anyone 'suspicious' crossing the border.

ETA: and obviously, before computers, there was diddly squat anyone could do to keep track of people.

 

[LoveyG]

I can tell you that it sure ain't safe to go look at your 401K or your IRA right now, and won't be for most of the next decade.

Trump's made his money by shorting the markets. Now I want REVENGE

it's too late for me. I've already retired.

 

[Dotta]

From my country's MSM

"The Chinese have 'turned off the tap' on valuable resources. ​

Elon Musk sounds the alarm.​

China's decision to halt exports of rare-earth heavy metal magnets
has hit Elon Musk's business.
It will hamper work on Tesla's
Optimus robot.

'China produces the entire world supply of heavy rare earth metals from ore mined in China and Burma,
as well as 90 percent of magnets made from these metals.

Japan produces the rest of the magnets,
but uses raw materials from China',
'The New York Times' reports.

Rare earth magnets are crucial for Tesla's robots -
they prevent
'malfunction and overheating' of their electric motors,
which are placed in the arms of the Optimus.

'Musk's words that China's suspension of exports of some magnets is affecting his plans to build humanoid robots are
a clear signal that China's actions are starting to influence large American companies' ,
the NYT emphasizes."

More in the link

Chińczycy "zakręcili kurek" z cennymi zasobami. Elon Musk bije na alarm

Decyzja Chin o wstrzymaniu eksportu magnesów z metalami ciężkimi ziem rzadkich uderzyła w biznes Elona Muska - donosi "The New York Times". Utrudni prace nad robotem Optimus, nad którym pracuje Tesla.

www.money.pl

 

[musicaljoke]

Well, I was just saying I actually know people who did this - stayed for most of the year or multiple years, especially living cheaply in an RV or truck, or staying with a partner, or some communal type place.

They could get away with it because US border officers would know when you entered the US, but not when you left. The Canadian border officials would know when you came back, but not when you left. The information sharing agreement was only implemented around 2018, and even then, not all border crossings had the technology Then came the pandemic, so it probably stopped then anyway

Medical insurance doesn't know where you've been or for how long...and many young, healthy people let it lapse. People spend years backpacking around the world, they don't care about their medical insurance.

It was 9/11 in 2001 that created the department of Homeland Security and I think that's when they began a crackdown on anyone 'suspicious' crossing the border.

ETA: and obviously, before computers, there was diddly squat anyone could do to keep track of people.

Canada collects both entry and exit data. Canadians must return to Canada every six months, or lose their Old Age Security payments and their Health Care.

https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/documents/canada_usreport_3.pdf

https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/documents/canada_usreport_3.pdf

 

[Cedars]

From my country's MSM

"The Chinese have 'turned off the tap' on valuable resources. ​

Elon Musk sounds the alarm.​

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China's decision to halt exports of rare-earth heavy metal magnets
has hit Elon Musk's business.
It will hamper work on Tesla's
Optimus robot.

'China produces the entire world supply of heavy rare earth metals from ore mined in China and Burma,
as well as 90 percent of magnets made from these metals.

Japan produces the rest of the magnets,
but uses raw materials from China',
'The New York Times' reports.

Rare earth magnets are crucial for Tesla's robots -
they prevent
'malfunction and overheating' of their electric motors,
which are placed in the arms of the Optimus.

'Musk's words that China's suspension of exports of some magnets is affecting his plans to build humanoid robots are
a clear signal that China's actions are starting to influence large American companies' ,
the NYT emphasizes."

More in the link

Chińczycy "zakręcili kurek" z cennymi zasobami. Elon Musk bije na alarm

Decyzja Chin o wstrzymaniu eksportu magnesów z metalami ciężkimi ziem rzadkich uderzyła w biznes Elona Muska - donosi "The New York Times". Utrudni prace nad robotem Optimus, nad którym pracuje Tesla.

www.money.pl

I just wonder, how much of these precious critical minerals is Elon going to squander trying to get Mars?

 

[303gmf]

it's too late for me. I've already retired.

Same boat, big anger

 

[Dotta]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1915133453084901746

 

[Yellowbelly]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1915133453084901746

Is it going to work, though? The impression I get of the Chinese leadership is that they are livid with Trump and want to utterly humiliate him.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

MSN

Indy 100

Trump's ‘art of the deal’ becomes laughing stock online after China tariffs climb down​

Donald Trump is 'folding' to China over tariffs - or at least, that's what social media users would have you believe.

The president has appeared to signal a U-turn on tariffs on Chinese goods after weeks of trade war speculation – and people have been quick to mock his ‘art of the deal’ on social media.

 

[SouthAussie]

So, since Elon is wrapping up DOGE, where are all the arrests? Considering there was supposed to be massive amounts of fraud in the US Govt. And what about my $5K dividend check? Still waiting on that, too.

But you are getting a "tax cut", Centaurus. It is called tariffs.

 

[Herat]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1915133453084901746

Wouldn’t you think someone experienced in tariffs and international deals would have sought out the major US importers of Chinese or other Asian goods to find out how they would approach major tariffs BEFORE they started a tariff war?

If I had Ndivia, Apple, and Walmart top CEOS available too me I sure would have listened to their thoughts very carefully before I made a big spectacle of myself that created a massive international reaction.

 

[SouthAussie]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1915133453084901746

Always putting the cart before the horse.

Were there no business leaders in their discussions about implementing tariffs? No stock market leaders? No currency leaders? No brainstorming between all relevant and knowledgeable parties?

(rhetorical question, I think I know the answer)

imo

 

[indicolite22]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1915133453084901746

What happened to "they need us, we don't need them"?

 

[IzzyBlanche]

What happened to "they need us, we don't need them"?

I thought that was Canada. I can't keep our trade enemies straight anymore.

 

[indicolite22]

I thought that was Canada. I can't keep our trade enemies straight anymore.

He was implying that China needed the US market more than vice versa.

 

[Herat]

Always putting the cart before the horse.

Were there no business leaders in their discussions about implementing tariffs? No stock market leaders? No currency leaders? No brainstorming between all relevant and knowledgeable parties?

(rhetorical question, I think I know the answer)

imo

When you have only Navarro and Musk as advisors, this cluster is what you get.