Canada - Lucas Fowler, Chynna Deese, and Leonard Dyck, all murdered, Alaska Hwy, BC, Jul 2019 #17

[LoisLane]

They didn't tell him Bryer was missing.

Yes I know. I think somehow AS was made aware of the video from someone in the family maybe even Kam’s side..

 

[NJSleuth91]

So now it becomes apparent why AS had to learn from the media about his son going missing. The RCMP say he is not BS's next of kin. He wasn't invited to the funeral. And now he will learn about the video on the news like everyone else? Yikes. So much for privacy laws.

It’s exceptionally cruel for Bryers mother to not inform the father of anything regarding his burial. The police should be doing more to ensure he gets to see the 30 second video too. Not telling him no and then saying but keep this our little secret.

See...what did I tell you guys. Whatever it was that went down during Bryer's childhood, was some real scorched earth stuff. Obviously we don't know what the situation is or the motives of why different people are acting in certain ways. But, like, clearly the animosity was way worse than even the court records indicate. You either have to be deathly afraid of someone, or hate them with the burning fire of a thousand suns, or some combination of the two, to not invite them to their son's funeral. JMO.

 

[scrappinkat]

I feel bad for AS here. I understand why Bryer's mother would be his next of kin if he was younger and she had custody, but wouldn't his father now be as well now that he is an adult especially when the had re-connected?

I think using a child to hurt an ex is despicable, seems now we have a very good view of how things were during Bryers childhood.

 

[Gina20]

Does anyone think AS is getting help from Victim Services? I doubt it.

 

[NJSleuth91]

Does anyone think AS is getting help from Victim Services? I doubt it.

I doubt it. It almost seems like the RCMP has it out for him, probably because of the media stuff. There's literally no way it would compromise the investigation to show him the 30 second clip of the video that multiple members of Bryer's family have already seen. There's no actual reason not to. JMO.

 

[KR72]

Yeah, the RCMP aren't responsible for dealing with disputes within famlies. They notified the next of kin and what the family does from there and who they decide to tell or not tell is their own business.

As far as the family dispute or whatever it is that's going on, it's tit for tat it seems. AS sends a book out to the media at the worst possible time, and now mom is getting him back.

I've only heard of one person not being invited to a memorial, and at the time, the individual in question was on a huge bender, drinking and drugging for weeks and wasn't told about the service. They were allowed to visit the plot later though.

 

[KR72]

Does anyone think AS is getting help from Victim Services? I doubt it.

No, I looked at the victim's services site and it's more for victims of crime and their families from what I could tell.

Victim Services - Royal Canadian Mounted Police

 

[MistyWaters]

It's one bizarre coincidence to go to the place where the Chetwynd double murder suspect was found, IMO. The chance of that happening is nil., but they did.

Maybe not so much. According to 5th Estate Sundance isn’t directly connected other than where the accused happened to reside.<modsnip: off topic>

 

[scrappinkat]

You either have to be deathly afraid of someone, or hate them with the burning fire of a thousand suns, or some combination of the two,

Unless the person is a grade A narcissist who only knows how to use and destroy others.

 

[LoisLane]

Does anyone think AS is getting help from Victim Services? I doubt it.

I don’t think so. I called VS recently to ask them to reach out to a relative who was going through a major trauma and it was simple. I explained what had happened, who they were and a phone number and they took it from there. Even if AS didn’t have a loved one looking out for him surely an officer or even a reporter could have made the call. It makes me really angry if not one professional involved offered or set something up. But maybe AS declined too so there’s that.

 

[Gina20]

Yes I know. I think somehow AS was made aware of the video from someone in the family maybe even Kam’s side..

That someone probably knows that what happened is wrong, even if they're from the mother's "side". I wonder if the lawyer is working pro bono.

 

[NJSleuth91]

Unless the person is a grade A narcissist who only knows how to use and destroy others.

That would fall under the "hate with the burning fire of a thousand suns" category. I don't think there's sufficient evidence to say what the motivator is behind this, though. Either way I think we can extrapolate that being in the middle of all this for years could not have been good for Bryer's development.

 

[LoisLane]

I doubt it. It almost seems like the RCMP has it out for him, probably because of the media stuff. There's literally no way it would compromise the investigation to show him the 30 second clip of the video that multiple members of Bryer's family have already seen. There's no actual reason not to. JMO.

There has already been too much sloppiness with the RCMP so they really have nothing to lose by letting AS have his dignity in this specific situation of the video. This just makes them look bad. It’s way too harsh.

 

[katydid23]

Letter to lawyer says video has to do with how suspect Bryer Schmegelsky wanted his body dealt with

Sarah Leamon says her client, Al Schmegelsky, father of Bryer Schmegelsky, wants to see the video to better understand his son's last wishes.

"My client is simply seeking access to that video so that he can look at it and so he can get some emotional closure with respect to these circumstances," Leamon said.


In a letter to Leamon dated Aug. 21, RCMP say the video "has to do with how Bryer wanted his body dealt with after death and that information was passed on to his mother, the next of kin."

The letter also says RCMP haven't publicly discussed or acknowledged the video, but plan to do so "in the next couple of weeks."

RCMP also ask Leamon to keep information about the video private until they do so.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/northern-bc-suspects-video-1.5259069

 

[LoisLane]

That someone probably knows that what happened is wrong, even if they're from the mother's "side". I wonder if the lawyer is working pro bono.

I agree. Hopefully a good lawyer with good intentions and pro bono. AS knows his rights so at least he is fighting for them.

 

[NJSleuth91]

There has already been too much sloppiness with the RCMP so they really have nothing to lose by letting AS have his dignity in this specific situation of the video. This just makes them look bad. It’s way too harsh.

I think they also have to be concerned about an additional death being caused as a result of this case. JMO.

 

[Gina20]

I doubt it. It almost seems like the RCMP has it out for him, probably because of the media stuff. There's literally no way it would compromise the investigation to show him the 30 second clip of the video that multiple members of Bryer's family have already seen. There's no actual reason not to. JMO.

Leaving him to sue them for his legal right. Oh, right, privacy laws...he's a member of the public and he can read all about it with the rest of us.

I think a good PR consultant would advise them to reconsider this stance on humanitarian grounds. A lot of ill will is being created, IMO.

 

[LoisLane]

I think they also have to be concerned about an additional death being caused as a result of this case. JMO.

Or two.

 

[LoisLane]

No, I looked at the victim's services site and it's more for victims of crime and their families from what I could tell.

Victim Services - Royal Canadian Mounted Police

AS falls under this category. JMO

 

[Gina20]

Let me see if I understand. If anyone else in Bryer's family, aside from his mother, has seen this video, then privacy laws were breached, IMO. The mother is the only next of kin, according to the RCMP, and only the next of kin can see it due to privacy laws. Then it is not just the biological father who had court-ordered visitation rights who should not see it. The grandparents, partner of the mother, any siblings, aunts, uncles, etc. should definitely have been barred. That is a point the lawyer should be making. All MOO, JMO, etc.