Canada - Lucas Fowler, Chynna Deese, and Leonard Dyck, all murdered, Alaska Hwy, BC, Jul 2019 #9

[PaulR]

Danielle McMaster is a search volunteer with Bear Clan Patrol in York Landing - confirms one of the men spotted by her group of volunteers was wearing a camouflage shirt, like teen suspect Bryer Schmegelsky.

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Later a police spokesperson said, "Our officers on the ground have not made contact with the individuals, and so we are not yet in a position to confirm that these are the wanted suspects".

I saw the search volunteer interviewed on TV and she said the men were seen at the dump.

A lot of people wear camo.

Since bears frequent the dump, I wonder if they were poachers. I hear bear is greasy.

 

[copkid]

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1578494531849/

Wow, just saw this and it brought me to this thread.

Interesting...Thanks for posting this.

 

[steelybird]

I totally agree.

Yes and I also think that if the suspects are still alive they will become agitated with the lack of attention if all the resources are pulled. Not much of a game for them if nobody else is playing so to speak. This may cause them to make another appearance to get back in the spotlight--hopefully not another murder--but maybe another cameo via store security camera footage...

 

[Snoop Sister]

Interview with guy in Cold Lake who helped them with the Rav4

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/sudb...n-unknowingly-helps-murder-suspects-1.5229940

I question the credibility of this as do many locals. Not saying they didn’t pass Cold Lake though.

 

[Deleted member 248860]

I wonder if they were poachers. I hear bear is greasy.

Bear is excellent. I prefer it to moose, which in my area is the same hunting season.

Very unusual to come across bear in the woods, though. They steer clear of humans.

 

[M_Shelll1]

When I first heard of the sighting at the dump (and that one boy was in camo) I was really hoping it wasn’t some kids trying to look like the suspects for …kicks(?) for whatever reason that swatting exists…everyone apparently wants their 15 minutes however they can get it... but that’s where I’m leaning with this not turning into anything. If they were disguising themselves (which I think they obviously must be) then a camo shirt would be the last thing they would have been carrying around.

…my conspiracy side is thinking….. if they were helped by someone, then they could have ‘helpers’ at the dump on purpose to try and lead some of the swarm of searchers away. Hearing about that guy that just killed his family and was bragging about it online – when he proved it to whoever “some” of those people reported it to police …but that means obviously some of them didn’t. A family proven dead but some people (I read that as several) did nothing …it’s really not may steps from doing nothing to lending some kind of help…

 

[musicaljoke]

All it would take is the two of them to find a local newspaper somewhere to get updates about the searching without having internet. When they were allegedly sighted at the dump I had wondered if that could have been something they were looking for too. Any local discarded newspapers.

Just guessing, based on how folks do things in these parts, old newspapers don't end up in the dump. They would be stored all summer and used for fires in the winter.

 

[Miss Elizabeth]

I question the credibility of this as do many locals. Not saying they didn’t pass Cold Lake though.

Can you expand on this Tarika? Why you're questioning the credibility? I'm just curious, not being snarky. Inquiring minds and all

 

[Liwthe]

So who WERE the 2 thin tall young white men seen by Bear Clan at the dump, one wearing a camo jacket, rummaging through the dump (something locals apparently don’t do)? And then running into the woods when spotted, which also seems suspect?

Just because the RCMP couldn’t find the people sighted doesn’t mean the sighting wasn’t credible, IMO.

They were seen only from behind from the the interview of the man who saw them from the video I saw linked here earlier. I’m assuming (so it’s not certain) that it was from some distance as the locals don’t like to venture into the dump from their own reports. As soon as they were spotted from behind, they dashed off into the woods, although I have no idea how they knew they were spotted if the person who saw them was behind them and didn’t claim to see anything more than their backs. Also unsure how they knew they were white unless Kam’s arms were so obviously white from that distance. But it would be hard to know it was two white males given Bryer wore full length clothing.

If there was a different sighting, I didn’t hear/see/read about it. Just a long distance sighting of two white males from behind. I think it’s not too surprising that the sighting can’t be given too much weight.

 

[Zella]

A lot of people wear camo.

Since bears frequent the dump, I wonder if they were poachers. I hear bear is greasy.

Might depend on how it is fixed. The bear meat I've eaten has been excellent.

 

[Diezelmonster]

That's odd

This is bizarre, maybe this was a photo taken after a towing company or a local pulled it out of the ditch? The other two pics I've seen have the vehicle on its wheels still....

 

[Herat]

Have to agree. Something does not add up.

Could we possibly get a map of where this field was where they were stuck in the mud?

It almost sounds like they thought they could head off-road into some wilderness from there. Was this an attempt to go "suvivalist" that didn't pay off so they got back on the road and continued east until they ran into the end of the road east of Gillam?

 

[Hatfield]

A lot of people wear camo.

Since bears frequent the dump, I wonder if they were poachers. I hear bear is greasy.

Yeah its possible the sightings were real but maybe just someone else there that was up to no good like putting out bait to later try and poach a bear or something.

If something like that happened then everyone is telling the truth and they were just mistaken about who they saw.

Even if it was two local kids there playing around then the kids may have been previously told to not trespass near the dump and now they would be afraid to admit it was them that the elders saw for fear of being in big trouble from their parents.

So there are a few alternatives that could explain the alleged sighting.

 

[BearCatSafari]

I question the credibility of this as do many locals. Not saying they didn’t pass Cold Lake though.

What makes you question it?

 

[Zella]

Since we keep speculating on newspapers being a target at the dump, what would be the local paper for Yorks Landing? Also I wonder if they get their editions slightly late due to the remoteness if it isn't produced in town?

I get my local paper a day late since I don't live in town, so I could see theirs being delayed as well.

 

[ld1891]

Since we keep speculating on newspapers being a target at the dump, what would be the local paper for Yorks Landing? Also I wonder if they get their editions slightly late due to the remoteness if it isn't produced in town?

I get my local paper a day late since I don't live in town, so I could see theirs being delayed as well.

If it's like many Northern communities there may not be one. There are local radio stations though.

 

[Estrojane]

I noted that quip too and found it interesting. Wonder which one of them said that.

It's probably Kam, as it looks like he's the one that does the taking for the duo. I suspect he's got a built-in masters degree in confabulation.

 

[Kubirai]

That's odd

The burnt shell of the RAV4 was pulled out of the bush, and placed upside down on the road.

 

[Zella]

If it's like many Northern communities there may not be one. There are local radio stations though.

That makes sense. I imagine distribution would be very difficult. How frequently does mail run to remote northern communities?

 

[ktm44]

It also tells us they refused an opportunity to overpower the person helping them or, while he was distracted,take a nearly new truck, wallet and money inside.

Looked nervous but Felt confident enought to give real names?. Why? For later notoriety?

Eta. SP

I wonder if they were incapable of driving that particular truck. Trucks in rural areas are seldom automatics and there aren't many young people that know how to drive them.

Neither looks to me like they're overly capable of overpowering someone or skilled fighters so they may have lacked the confidence to even try. I may be alone in my opinion but I think the firearm they used previously had a limited amount of ammo or they ditched it quite a while ago. There was a gap before they were connected to the murders and I suspect the would have been concerned about being found with a key piece of evidence.