Canada - Marie-France Comeau, 37, & Jessica Lloyd, 27, slain, Ont, 2009 & 2010 - #2

[Sillybilly]

Speaking of clarification ...

Can't recall who made the prior posts regarding "swapping" and "infedility" with respect to RW's parents. While I've seen it alluded to that both activities seemed to have been a bit of a past-time in the community of Deep River, I don't recall anything related specifically to the parents. I think WSrs need to be very careful not to get into character assassination of two totally innocent parents who are in no way involved in the crimes their adult son is accused of.

I would like to know if it's fact or speculation, and either way, a link is appreciated. We can be our own judge of whether it is a reliable resource or not, but let's ensure that this board is not the source of rumour and innuendo that can be devastating to innocent people whose lives are already turned upside down by the allegations against their son.

 

[Patience]

When I first read this, I thought the victims were asked this by Williams but maybe the victim asked Williams this? I appologize if I reported this backwards.


Found Deceased Canada - Jessica Lloyd, 27, Belleville, Ontario 01/28/2010 thread #2 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Wi...660/story.html

The victims were both women who lived alone. The attacks occurred in the dead of night. The intruder bound the women with duct tape, blindfolded them with pillow cases, tied them to chairs and photographed them.
"They asked all kinds of things. Did my father beat me, did my mother molest me," he says. "Personal stuff, like what kind of sex do you like.
Police told him it was one of the victims who identified him.

 

[Patience]

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/W...econd+guess+Cozy+Cove+Lane/2560660/story.html

I believe the police were questioning Jones in this article from the Ottawa citizen, sorry about that.

 

[flipflop]

Remember the E.Bain case.

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2010/02/11/12846131-qmi.html

Elizabeth Bain vanished in June 1990. Her then-boyfriend, Robert Baltovich, was arrested and subsequently found guilty of second-degree murder. He appealed the verdict and was acquitted in April 2008. Elizabeth's body was never found

Williams, now accused of murdering two women, attended the University of Toronto Scarborough campus — the same campus Bain vanished from in June 1990

I did not realize RW and Bain went to the same campus, however, RW graduated in 1987. Bain disappeared in 1990. From what we know RW in 1990 earned his wings and became a pilot. I am not exactly sure what province he would have been in back in June of 1990 when Bain disappeared? Anyone know? RW was still speaking with his mother at this time, media states he cut ties in early 2001, so he still had ties to the area.

Found an article that stated RW was in Manitoba in 1990, but did not state when in the year that he was there.
From the Manitoba community to Halifax in the early 1990s to CFB Trenton http://news.therecord.com/printArticle/670127

 

[Sillybilly]

... I came across this website and I hope it's ok to post this. It is so easy to get carried away with wondering how many victims Russ Williams has. Many of his traits fit Project Kare's Profile of the Edmonton Serial Killer www.projectkare.ca ...

and Just today I realized that the person who is shown is the video about the disappearance of Jennifer Keese might of been wearing a beret. Is Williams hat a beret?
http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache...+russ+williams+beret&cd=6&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca

<snips>

The PJ KARE profile is pretty generic for the most part, but the geographical component indicates the perp has a "past or present connection" to the area southeast of Edmonton in around Camrose, Leduc, New Sarepta. RW's stepfather grew up on farms in the Cranford and Coaldale areas which are about 350 miles south of those communities (south of Calgary, and more down towards the Medicine Hat / Lethbridge area). Wouldn't totally rule him out, but RW doesn't strike me as the type who would prey primarily on drug-addicted stws.

With respect to the poi in Jennifer's case, a "beret" isn't the same as our Airforce headgear, and the poi on video is said to be approx. 5'3 to 5'5 ... I don't know RW's height, but he appears to be much taller.

All MOO for what it's worth ... if i knew everything, these cases would all be solved. Right?

 

[Sillybilly]

Found an article that stated RW was in Manitoba in 1990, but did not state when in the year that he was there.

<snip>

FWIW (although it doesn't say what month he started there in 1990) from CBC News:

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2010/02/08/f-williams-biography.html

1990
Williams earns his wings and is posted to 3 Canadian Forces Flying Training School, based in Portage La Prairie, Man., where he serves for two years as an instructor.

bbm

 

[Sillybilly]

With respect to the poi in Jennifer's case, a "beret" isn't the same as our Airforce headgear ...

I'll take that back Patience ... there are images showing airforce personnel wearing berets, but the specific one we see RW wearing in recent pics is not a beret as such (I think is called a "garrison cap"). Not to say that he never ever wore a beret. Hopefully others more familiar with the Canadian air force uniforms will respond.

Feel free to smack me with a wet fish.

 

[flipflop]

<snip>

FWIW (although it doesn't say what month he started there in 1990) from CBC News:

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2010/02/08/f-williams-biography.html


bbm

I had read that article earlier, also read that RW was in Ontario from 1987 to 1990 with the military then went onto Manitoba and later out east, Still digging to see if he was in Ontario in Jun 1990

 

[Summersolstice]

This kind of thing that raises a red flag for me:

http://www.calgaryherald.com/story_print.html?id=2593030&sponsor=

What is revealed to whom and when, and what will it take for even the OPP to get information in this case?

 

[fats]

I think Russ Williams asking one of his surviving victims if she had been molested by her mother to be something to be looked into by a psychologist.

I came across this website and I hope it's ok to post this. It is so easy to get carried away with wondering how many victims Russ Williams has. Many of his traits fit Project Kare's Profile of the Edmonton Serial Killer www.projectkare.ca and Just today I realized that the person who is shown is the video about the disappearance of Jennifer Keese might of been wearing a beret. Is Williams hat a beret?
http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache...+russ+williams+beret&cd=6&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca

RUSSELL WILLIAMS A SERIAL KILLER?
ONE-TIME "GOLDEN BOY" OF RCAF NOW BEING
LOOKED AT IN UNSOLVED MURDER OF KATHLEEN
MacVICAR, RAPED AND STRANGLED ON TRENTON
CFB IN 2001 - WHAT ABOUT STRANGE DEATH OF
MAJ MICHELLE KNIGHT MENDES, FOUND DEAD IN
ROOM AT KANDAHAR AIRFIELD IN AFGHANISTAN?

Was RW stationed at the CFB Base outside of Edmonton---or did he ever have to visit that area. I suppose Investigators will track his whereabouts going back over the years and look into many unsolved crimes that could be pinned on him. Perhaps--that is why he chose a military life---so he could move around a lot without any excuses and people would never really get to know him.

 

[Sillybilly]

Was RW stationed at the CFB Base outside of Edmonton---or did he ever have to visit that area.

<snip>

At this point fats, the only thing we've seen re an Alberta connection is that his step-father, born in 1936, grew up on farms in southern Alberta, near Cranford and Coaldale.

 

[Summersolstice]

http://www.thestar.com/News/Canada/article/624330

 

[Summersolstice]

http://www.thestar.com/News/Canada/article/624330

She attended RMC and Carleton. I wonder if she knew Joe Grozelle.

 

[LadyL]

I image-googled berets and garrison hats (I must be bored lol). Here are some garrison hats:



And here's a link to pictures of berets:

http://www.canadiansoldiers.com/uniforms/berets.htm

 

[Hazel]

I image-googled berets and garrison hats (I must be bored lol). Here are some garrison hats:

View attachment 7695 View attachment 7696

And here's a link to pictures of berets:

http://www.canadiansoldiers.com/uniforms/berets.htm

Found this picture of Maj. Michelle Mendes' funeral. Could those be the berets and garrison hats?

source : http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=pv&GRid=36265774&PIpi=17366262

 

[fats]

:waitasec:

Found this picture of Maj. Michelle Mendes' funeral. Could those be the berets and garrison hats?

source : http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=pv&GRid=36265774&PIpi=17366262

I am wondering what her death has to do with RW? She was found dead in her room in Kandahar--he wasn't around was he?

 

[Sillybilly]

She attended RMC and Carleton. I wonder if she knew Joe Grozelle.

Well, RW sure seems to have been around a few military personnel who did not ultimately die in combat.

2003, RW and Joe Grozelle were at RMC

from http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/shadowsofdoubt/

ON A RAINY NIGHT in Kingston in October 2003, third-year Royal Military College cadet Joe Grozelle simply vanished

2006 , RW and Mendes were at Kandahar (although she died in 2009)

from http://www.thestar.com/News/Canada/article/624330

Mendes's first tour in Afghanistan was also cut short. She was deployed as an intelligence officer in August 2006 ahead of Operation Medusa, a full-scale clash with the Taliban in Kandahar's Panjwaii district. Military officials said she was injured in an incident they would not disclose and was treated at Landstuhl military hospital in Germany before returning home.

bbm

 

[Sillybilly]

:waitasec:

I am wondering what her death has to do with RW? She was found dead in her room in Kandahar--he wasn't around was he?

Everything i've seen so far, he spent 6 mos studying French in Gatineau before his appointment as commander at Trenton in July 2009.

Can't find the 2008/2009 calendar yet, but ...

http://www.rmc.ca/aca/ac-pe/gsc-adc/index-eng.asp

The RMC 2009/2010 calendar indicates that Grad studies for spring 2010, the winter classes end in early April, then they go into exams and the winter term ends April 30. Don't know how Francophone studies might factor into that calendar.

 

[Sillybilly]

Found the 2008-2009 RMC calendar:

(page 7)

http://www.rmc.ca/aca/ac-pe/arc/gsc-aes-08-09-eng.pdf

3 Winter term classes end
10 Good Friday
13 Easter Monday
14-25 Winter term exam period (UG)
25 End of Winter term
27 Deadline for receipt of course marks, project/thesis acceptances (graduating students only)

OK, I'm not too swift in determining whether he would have been enrolled in graduate studies (calendar shown above) or undergraduate studies, but French seems to be included in undergrad ... here is the undergrad calendar for April 2009:

(page 5)

http://www.rmc.ca/aca/ac-pe/arc/uc-apc-08-09-eng.pdf

9 Apr End of classes
10 - 13 Apr Easter Weekend (statutory holiday)
14 - 25 Apr Examinations
4 - 5 May Supplemental exams IV yr
11 - 12 May Supplemental exams II, III yr
13 May Convocation
14 May Commissioning Parade

 

[Summersolstice]

:waitasec:

I am wondering what her death has to do with RW? She was found dead in her room in Kandahar--he wasn't around was he?

Truth is, we don't know where he was most of the time. He came and went a lot, sometimes with people like the Minister of Defence, or QEII.

What was she investigating while she was there? Something current, something past, or someone wearing the same colors?

But my question is this: did she know Joe Grozelle? Did she attend RMC when Joe Grozelle and RW were there? Did she see something, or know something, or happen to be a friend of someone who did? Was she Catholic, and did she confess to a chaplain? What happened to cause her injury that no one will discuss from a previous mission, and was it on the battlefield? Wasn't her work computer-related? Was this caused by one of the "friendlies"?

And there's this:

"Amid his numerous responsibilities&#8212;and alleged crimes&#8212;Williams also found the time to stay current in a cockpit. In order to maintain his air force wings, the colonel had to fly at least once a month, so in between briefings and meetings, he climbed into an Airbus A-310 and barrelled down the runway.

The Airbuses belonged to Trenton&#8217;s 437 Squadron, the same unit Williams commanded back when Janet Wright was his assistant. It is the squadron&#8217;s job to ferry prime ministers on their international jaunts, and deliver Afghanistan-bound supplies to Canada&#8217;s secret base in the Middle East, Camp Mirage (a facility that Williams also once commanded, from December 2005 to June 2006). "

From: http://www2.macleans.ca/2010/02/19/‘behind-those-eyes’/5/