GUILTY Canada - Marie-France Comeau, 37, & Jessica Lloyd, 27, slain, Ont, 2009 & 2010 - #3

[Hazel]

Back in March, Gary Dimmick of the Ottawa Citizen reported:

from:
http://news.globaltv.com/world/Poli...ed+colonel+suspect+assault/3027083/story.html

Google hits show all articles with the above info as March 26, 2010, but when we access the hits, it shows today's date. That bugs me.

Dimmick doesn't give his sources.

Sillybilly, that quote is from today's news (Ottawa Citizen, Montreal Gazette, Globe&Mail, etc) it is the first time that we heard RW was thinking of going back home for supper.

Anyways, I googled DIMMICK, and turns out he was participant in the Larry O'Brian (Mayor of Ottawa) trial

A digital audio taped interview between Gary Dimmock and Scott Anderson, employees of the. Ottawa Citizen and Larry O'Brien, Mayor of the City of Ottawa. ...

Police warrant for Gary Dimmock's interview tape, transcript - COPY www.ottawacitizen.com/pdf/prodsealottcit.pdf

I'm editting because I don't want to get in any trouble

 

[dotr]

Did anyone ever hear where Mr. Jones stolen belongings were found or if they were found....RW was definatly setting him up IMO

I think he may have been prepared to do that,in fact I wondered if the puck dropping thing was about getting his fingerprints.I recall a victim who thought
she heard Mr Jones voice during an attack, and I wondered, if R.W.would use a recording to disguise himself as someone else.

 

[Hazel]

Did anyone ever hear where Mr. Jones stolen belongings were found or if they were found....RW was definatly setting him up IMO

I don't recall that the items were found at an actual crime scene,

If it is true that RW took these items with an intent to frame LJ, then I suspect it could simply be part of his titillating "game". As you say, he considered himself invincible, so it isn't outside the realm of possibility that he would do this (look at what else he has done !!). Also, if he went to LE with the belief that it was regarding LJ, it might have been a thrill to be interviewed so he could set LJ up further. He was unaware that his treads had been discovered, so maybe LE simply beat him at his own game.

Re the phone call about living with a murderer ... It is possible that RW himself made that call for another thrill of a lifetime, knowing that he would eventually kill someone in the vicinity and that Mrs. LJ would remember that taunting phone call. IIRC, that phone call initiated suspicions of Mr and Mrs LJ, when we have no other reason to doubt the validity of their claims. They too are victims of RW, and until someone proves their statements are flat out lies or embellished truths, I will continue to believe them.

We are dealing with the creme de la creeps here ... nothing about RW will surprise me.

MOO

I think he may have been prepared to do that,in fact I wondered if the puck dropping thing was about getting his fingerprints.I recall a victim who thought
she heard Mr Jones voice during an attack, and I wondered, if R.W.would use a recording to disguise himself as someone else.

Good thinking Flip, sillybilly and dotr.

 

[Hazel]

Publication ban in civil case against Williams, wife
Judge makes orders regarding couple's assets

Posted By LUKE HENDRY/The Intelligencer
Updated 57 mins ago

His order bans the release of Doe's real name and gives directives regarding the defendants' assets.

Doe is the alleged victim in the first home invasion.

Anything may be alleged in a statement of claim. None of the allegations made by Doe have been proven in court.

Byers' ruling allows Doe to use her pseudonym throughout the civil case, though her legal counsel — Belleville's Pretsell-Cavanaugh firm — must supply her real name to the defendants' lawyers.

The judge ruled no one — including lawyers and media — may disclose or publish the plaintiff's name without the court's consent.

"The court orders that the defendant Mary-Elizabeth Harriman shall not transfer, convey, encumber, dispose of or otherwise deal with the property" in question, wrote Byers.

Byers also granted a temporary injunction restraining the "disposition or dissipation of real and personal property" owned by Williams.

The judge ordered Williams to provide a sworn statement of his financial assets.

Lawyers on both sides had little to say Friday.

"Out of respect for our client's privacy, we have no comment," lawyer Mike Pretsell, whose firm represents Doe, wrote in an e-mail message to The Intelligencer.

Williams and Harriman have 20 working days after the filing of the statement of claim in which to file either a statement of defence or to state their intent to defend against Doe's claims. No such statements had been filed as of Friday.

Ottawa lawyer Mary Jane Binks confirmed she has been retained by Harriman.

"A statement of defence will be filed within the next two weeks," Binks told The Intelligencer. She added she would not represent Williams.

" I am definitely not representing him," Binks said.

Lawyer Michael Edelson, also of Ottawa, represents Williams in the criminal case. James Katz, another Ottawa lawyer, acted on the record Thursday as Edelson's agent but was not present in court. He said neither he nor Edelson had been retained by the colonel.

"No one actually represents him in the civil matter, to my knowledge," Katz said Friday from Ottawa.

"I'm not authorized to give any comment," Katz said.

read more: http://www.intelligencer.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2579920

 

[flipflop]

I think he may have been prepared to do that,in fact I wondered if the puck dropping thing was about getting his fingerprints.I recall a victim who thought
she heard Mr Jones voice during an attack, and I wondered, if R.W.would use a recording to disguise himself as someone else.

I remember reading awhile back that one of the victims asked RW to get her a cigarette, and he complied...makes me wonder if he had LJ's lighter with his prints on it.

 

[antiquegirl]

From the article quoted by Hazel:

Williams is awaiting trial on all criminal charges.

http://www.intelligencer.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2579920

This reporter is making a presumption that there will be a trial. If RW pleads guilty to the charges, there will be no trial. Even if he pleads not guilty, there has to be a preliminary hearing to determine if there is sufficient evidence to go to trial. Another instance of poor journalism, or was there just no better way to phrase this?

JMO

 

[antiquegirl]

I remember reading awhile back that one of the victims asked RW to get her a cigarette, and he complied...makes me wonder if he had LJ's lighter with his prints on it.

Can't be, flip. The assaults took place last September and LJ's property was not stolen until this January.

"Someone had broken into his workshop in late January"

http://www.canada.com/news/Cosy+Cove+Lane/2560660/story.html

 

[dotr]

Jones said he was arrested because one of the two women assaulted mistakenly thought she recognized his voice as the voice of her assailant.

http://ottawa.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20100209/williams_neighbour_100209?hub=OttawaHome

 

[dotr]

Maybe it is the lighting, but R.W. just does not look as " spit and shine" as one might expect from a Colonel.

http://www.trentonian.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2255773

 

[Sillybilly]

Sillybilly, that quote is from today's news (Ottawa Citizen, Montreal Gazette, Globe&Mail, etc) it is the first time that we heard RW was thinking of going back home for supper.

Well dang !! I don't know why all the hit summaries said March. Then I don't know how I knew beforehand that he was called in on a ruse related to LJ. Maybe i just lucked in with a good guess.

Billy is in pain and signing off for tonite. Hard typing 'cuz i bummed up my hand today on a propane tank of all things. Grrrr

ZZzzzzzzzzzzz

 

[flipflop]

Maybe it is the lighting, but R.W. just does not look as " spit and shine" as one might expect from a Colonel.

http://www.trentonian.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2255773

I thought the samething....I noticed the bottom portion of his pant legs are quite wrinkly. I guess RW didn't leave too much time in his "busy" schedule to take care of such things as ironing.

 

[dotr]

I thought the samething....I noticed the bottom portion of his pant legs are quite wrinkly. I guess RW didn't leave too much time in his "busy" schedule to take care of such things as ironing.

I am suprised the most by the unpolished boots on a military person, also out of character for the fastidious R.W.

 

[dotr]

http://www.ottawasun.com/news/ottawa/2010/05/15/13958701.html

BELLEVILLE - A Belleville judge has granted a publication ban and issued several directives to Col. Russ Williams and his wife, Mary-Elizabeth Harriman, regarding a a civil action brought against them by a local woman.


"The court orders that the defendant Mary-Elizabeth Harriman shall not transfer, convey, encumber, dispose of or otherwise deal with the property" in question, wrote Byers.

Byers also granted a temporary injunction restraining the "disposition or dissipation of real and personal property" owned by Williams.

The judge ordered Williams to provide a sworn statement of financial assets.

 

[Macright]

latest from the Toronto Star..

http://www.thestar.com/news/ontario...r-russell-williams-wife-split-properties?bn=1

 

[Hazel]

Well dang !! I don't know why all the hit summaries said March. Then I don't know how I knew beforehand that he was called in on a ruse related to LJ. Maybe i just lucked in with a good guess.

Billy is in pain and signing off for tonite. Hard typing 'cuz i bummed up my hand today on a propane tank of all things. Grrrr

ZZzzzzzzzzzzz

Yeah, you're right, summaries at the top show March 26, that's odd, and I believe it was a lucky guess I remember we were wondering if it was usual practice for LE to call the day before to ask someone to go for interrogation the next day.

How is your hand billy? hope it doesn't hurt too much

 

[Hazel]

latest from the Toronto Star..

http://www.thestar.com/news/ontario...r-russell-williams-wife-split-properties?bn=1

Thanks Macright for posting that article. We need our legal experts to help us sort this mess out. So, she keeps the new house and pays him $62 K for it, and he gets the old cottage plus the $62K. Guess who got the best deal?
With that move, they want to give his victims an old cottage that was thoroughly searched by LE? tsk, tsk.

Real estate lawyer Bob Aaron, who writes a column for the Star, said the $62,000 cash payment on the Ottawa house, which involves payment of land transfer tax, suggests a marital split.

“That means it's an arm's-length deal and there actually was money being paid. So it may be that their marriage went south,” said Aaron. “And he may have done that to pay for his lawyers — he sold her the house.”

 

[Hazel]

Third post in a row -- it's so quiet in here today
Found this old article that I don't recall reading before, and seems Orleans residents were more aware of the B&E's than Tweed residents.
'It could have been worse, obviously,' says neighbour of accused killer'
Posted By W. BRICE MCVICAR AND KENNETH JACKSON, QMI AGENCY
Posted 15 days ago

At one Ottawa residence, the patio sliding doors were ripped off the tracks in the backyard by someone desperate to get in. The front door was left wide open like someone in a hurry to get out.

The intruder searched the entire house on Wilkie Dr. in December 2008 for women's underwear like a criminal investigator looking for traces of blood and hair.

He then tried to log onto the homeowner's computer but couldn't guess the password.

And before he left, the intruder took the homeowner's winter boots out of the front closet and "stomps around outside" in the backyard, according to police, stepping in the tracks he had left in the snow to throw police off.

The boots were left next to the carpet in front of the sliding doors, not back in the closet.

It's a bizarre story, but just one of dozens of crimes in the Fallingbrook area linked to Williams, not to mention scores more in Belleville and Tweed.

The owner of the Wilkie Dr. home, who didn't want his name published, said he was in Hawaii with his girlfriend when the break-in happened. The man and other residents on the street started a quasi-vigilante group once the break-ins started happening.

At the same time police were doing undercover work by having officers pose as dog walkers and park unmarked cars in random driveways. They warned residents something was wrong.

Williams lived on the street the entire time.

It's unknown if they knocked on Williams' door.

more: http://www.thebarrieexaminer.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2557297

 

[pinkeyesucks]

I can't lie, I enjoy a good fight, where all sides are well thought through

http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2010/05/15/13958696.html

I suddenly understand why MEH was named in the civil suit. If she had not been named, she might have been able to liquidate all of the assets. Brilliant.

 

[Hazel]

I can't lie, I enjoy a good fight, where all sides are well thought through

http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2010/05/15/13958696.html

I suddenly understand why MEH was named in the civil suit. If she had not been named, she might have been able to liquidate all of the assets. Brilliant.

Hi pinkeyesucks!
I too wish the very best to Jane Doe. Just in case you didn't know, there is a board for RW. Here is the link:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103480

 

[Sillybilly]

Yeah, you're right, summaries at the top show March 26, that's odd, and I believe it was a lucky guess I remember we were wondering if it was usual practice for LE to call the day before to ask someone to go for interrogation the next day.

How is your hand billy? hope it doesn't hurt too much

Thanks for asking, Hazel. No big sequalae here .. thumb and hand are wrenched and slowing me down considerably, but i think i'll make it Things like that never happen at a good time, but I have an exceptionally busy week ahead of me. More Arghh !!

Speaking of hands .. I think LE figured if they tipped their hand, RW would lawyer up and they'd get nada, so they played to his big ego by indicating they were investigating LJ and would like his help in answering some questions. The two likely worst case scenarios were that he would run or come in with a lawyer. He was probably under surveillance, so the first was not an issue. The second could have happened whether they called him in immediately or gave him 24 hrs. He probably already knew that LE had been to LJ's, so by letting him lollygag for a day, "at your convenience sir" would appeal to his superiority complex and he was none the wiser. They gambled and won, thankfully.