GUILTY Canada - Marie-France Comeau, 37, & Jessica Lloyd, 27, slain, Ont, 2009 & 2010 - #3

[Macright]

I understand what you are saying about MEH and her innocence in regards to the evil ones crimes. I don't doubt for a minute that she knew anything about what he was up to. Most wives married to anyone in the military, especially if their work entails top secret "stuff" learn very early on not to question them about anything work related. Sometimes their clearances are so high that they can't even "talk to themselves". I've been there done that so to speak. This perp would have had the usual kit box etc. filled with whatever and kept under lock and key and she probably would never think to look in it so I wonder if this is where he hid his "loot".. but..in this latest instance I think she is more than looking out for herself and her alone in order to prevent just what is taking place right now. That leaves me to think she is out for her and her alone. In any marriage in Canada she would be entitled to her 50% of assets but it seems she wants it all..I can understand now why she hired this slick lawyer. As I posted previously, I hope each one of his victims and their families sue him to the hilt!

 

[Macright]

I think the H and S organization( where MEH was an executive)need to get someone for damage control and to handle the media blitz which surely will ensue when the trial begins.
I wonder if MEH was aware that something was "off" and maybe if she discovered lingerie,she thought R.W. was actually a crossdresser.

I agree..I have stopped buying their lottery tickets as I associate it with this SOB (RW).. I know that is not fair but until I feel differently about it I will continue to not support them!

 

[antiquegirl]

MEH is not guilty IMO, she did nothing.
What would you do if you were in her shoes. She had nothing to do with his alleged crimes, she is innocent (IMO), if I were her I would be getting my things in order, in my name and cutting all ties that I had to that monster and trying my hardest to keep my head held high and to move forward. I do not put any blame on MEH at all, I feel she needs to look after herself! I can't imagine how horrible she feels for the victims of RW.

ITA. Thank you, flipflop.

I totally imagine RW being very successful at hiding his secrets. A few locked drawers, boxes, and an office with a key is all he needed. His military position was a perfect excuse for privacy. Sociopaths leave no verbal or demeanor clues. They pull the wool over everyone's eyes until they're caught.

As for MEH needing PR, I really don't believe that's going to be necessary. She's not running for public office. Did PB and KH's parents need to hire PR representation? What for? As long as MEH continues to refuse media interviews, she has nothing to worry about. Even if she decides to grant some interviews, she's an educated, intelligent woman who can probably handle herself just fine on her own.

MEH has barely even been photographed. All she needs to do is change her name and get a new job (if she needs one). Unless LE has proof that she knew what her husband had been up to and makes this public, she has nothing to fear or be ashamed of. I have only sympathy for her until I hear evidence that I shouldn't.

JMO

 

[Macright]

not sure if this was posted on this thread but here goes anyway.

http://www.thestar.com/news/insight...to-guy-for-people-in-big-trouble-with-the-law

 

[flipflop]

I agree..I have stopped buying their lottery tickets as I associate it with this SOB (RW).. I know that is not fair but until I feel differently about it I will continue to not support them!

I'm sorry you feel this way?!? So you are not supporting H & S because RW was associated with it... Does that mean that you do not support the Canadian Military as RW was associated with it???? The military and MEH did not do this, RW and RW alone did this. He deserves all the blame!

 

[Macright]

I'm sorry you feel this way?!? So you are not supporting H & S because RW was associated with it... Does that mean that you do not support the Canadian Military as RW was associated with it???? The military and MEH did not do this, RW and RW alone did this. He deserves all the blame!

I really don't know at this time exactly how I feel about the military..strange because I had a strong connection with the military for a long time and the association and connection is still part of my life but I do have a difficult time separating the "military from RW". As far as my feeling towards MEH go, I guess to be truthful I will just say, "how could she not know"..did he really pull the wool over her eyes too. I did feel badly for her for awhile but after reading the latest about the transfer of his assets etc. my feelings have changed somewhat.

 

[flipflop]

I really don't know at this time exactly how I feel about the military..strange because I had a strong connection with the military for a long time and the association and connection is still part of my life but I do have a difficult time separating the "military from RW". As far as my feeling towards MEH go, I guess to be truthful I will just say, "how could she not know"..did he really pull the wool over her eyes too. I did feel badly for her for awhile but after reading the latest about the transfer of his assets etc. my feelings have changed somewhat.

I feel for MEH and I still do. IMO and after reading the links, the transfer of assests were done before his suicide attempt, weeks before the civil suit came into the picture. What would you do if you were in MEH's shoes, would you refuse the transfer? Not me, I would be looking out for myself.

 

[Hazel]

I feel for MEH and I still do. IMO and after reading the links, the transfer of assests were done before his suicide attempt, weeks before the civil suit came into the picture. What would you do if you were in MEH's shoes, would you refuse the transfer? Not me, I would be looking out for myself.

:waitasec: wouldn't that seem to indicate that he felt like dying after he was made to sign those papers? Did she continue to visit him after he signed?

 

[Hazel]

not sure if this was posted on this thread but here goes anyway.

http://www.thestar.com/news/insight...to-guy-for-people-in-big-trouble-with-the-law

:whistle:

Flip = They married in Manitoba in 1991 (20 years?). They lived separated lives since July 2009, when she stayed in Ottawa instead of spending summer in their Tweed cottage (like in previous years), because she was supervising the construction and decoration of the new house.
Still they would see each other during the weekends.

Police in Orleans took very seriously the B&E's; they feared those could escalate because of the sexual overtone. Residents were informed, many of them even installed alarm systems. Looking at the map where the Orleans B&E's took place, it looks like a circle (see map below). Do you think MH was not aware of all those incidents? Orleans/Fallingbrook has their own local papers as well. The last 82 counts go back to 2007.
Neighbours have said they would see them walking holding hands.

Then when they go to Tweed, B&E's stop in Orleans, and start in Tweed. I can understand the Tweed Police and Ottawa Police not connecting the dots sooner, but wouldn't you go like:

• "Wow, seems like that perp is following us wherever we go!" also
• "OMG! it happened again last night, and you were not here with me. Luckily the perp didn't enter our home. BTW, while you were out jogging, didn't you see anybody out there?"

Same for Tweed! Lots of B&E's and always when she was either in Ottawa, out of town or he went for a midnight walk. They were never together everytime an incident happened, she was always by herself or somewhere else. Wasn't she afraid she could be next?

Here are the MAPS again:

Fallingbrook, Orleans = http://www.thestar.com/staticcontent/802314

Tweed = http://www.thestar.com/staticcontent/802283

 

[antiquegirl]

:whistle:

Flip = They married in Manitoba in 1991 (20 years?). They lived separated lives since July 2009, when she stayed in Ottawa instead of spending summer in their Tweed cottage (like in previous years), because she was supervising the construction and decoration of the new house.
Still they would see each other during the weekends.

Police in Orleans took very seriously the B&E's; they feared those could escalate because of the sexual overtone. Residents were informed, many of them even installed alarm systems. Looking at the map where the Orleans B&E's took place, it looks like a circle (see map below). Do you think MH was not aware of all those incidents? Orleans/Fallingbrook has their own local papers as well. The last 82 counts go back to 2007.
Neighbours have said they would see them walking holding hands.

Then when they go to Tweed, B&E's stop in Orleans, and start in Tweed. I can understand the Tweed Police and Ottawa Police not connecting the dots sooner, but wouldn't you go like:

• "Wow, seems like that perp is following us wherever we go!" also
• "OMG! it happened again last night, and you were not here with me. Luckily the perp didn't enter our home. BTW, while you were out jogging, didn't you see anybody out there?"

Same for Tweed! Lots of B&E's and always when she was either in Ottawa, out of town or he went for a midnight walk. They were never together everytime an incident happened, she was always by herself or somewhere else. Wasn't she afraid she could be next?

Here are the MAPS again:

Fallingbrook, Orleans = http://www.thestar.com/staticcontent/802314

Tweed = http://www.thestar.com/staticcontent/802283

You make some valid points, Hazel, but I still wonder. Although some of the Ottawa B & Es were well-publicized, I don't think the Tweed ones were before RW's arrest. Sure, the news of the sexual assaults probably was widely known in town, but I don't think that even LE connected them to the underwear thefts in Ottawa until afterwards. Isn't it possible that MEH never made the connection either? If you didn't know better, you'd think they were perpetrated by a different type of criminal.

Also, would the media publish the actual times of the break-ins, or just the dates? I read the paper every day and don't recall times being mentioned. So, how could she be sure that they were apart during the crimes? And remember, many of those break-ins weren't even reported to LE, much less made it into the media. Some of the victims didn't notice they were missing anything until after they were told. The number of known break-ins increased and the maps published after the arrest and alleged confession.

I've posted this before, but since we now know that the break-ins took place in the wee hours (after midnight usually), I think it's likely that MEH was already asleep when her husband went out to "jog". If she woke up and discovered him gone, he could always say that he couldn't sleep. If this had been a long-standing habit, she might never even question it.

I don't know. When you love and trust someone, there's such a thing as being in denial. These are crimes that no woman would ever want to believe her husband is capable of, much less guilty of. If she had her suspicions, I think she filed them away to the back of her mind.

JMHO

 

[antiquegirl]

:waitasec: wouldn't that seem to indicate that he felt like dying after he was made to sign those papers? Did she continue to visit him after he signed?

I think he felt like dying as soon as he was arrested. He just wanted to make sure his wife was taken care of and, as he said in his note, his affairs were put in order before he did anything about it. I still believe he will try again if he gets a chance.

JMO

It was reported that MEH had been visiting her husband in jail, but it hasn't been made clear if she has done so since the papers have been signed. We don't even know if there are more documents that need signing, i.e. divorce papers, etc. I would like to think these visits were out of necessity, not compassion.

 

[Hazel]

Sure enough antiquegirl, anything is possible. I only know that if my husband was sneaking in and out of the house in the wee hours of the morning, I would have known
Also, I wasn't only thinking of media reports, more like people talking, neighbours commenting that the house next door, the house 2 streets away, and so forth, had been broken into and police cars were at the scene. Or neighbours talking about an attempted break-in just around the corner. Then the other neighbour installing an alarm system, the other neighbours adding extra outdoor lights, another one installing motion-sensor outdoor lightning, things like that.
I remember viewing a video clip where one of the Fallingbrook resisdents was pointing out to the reporter that practically all his surrounding neighbours had been broken into (or attempted break-in).

I guess we will have to wait and see what else comes out, or what else she does or doesn't do. For now, I'm still giving her the benefit of the doubt

 

[antiquegirl]

I'm sorry you feel this way?!? So you are not supporting H & S because RW was associated with it... Does that mean that you do not support the Canadian Military as RW was associated with it???? The military and MEH did not do this, RW and RW alone did this. He deserves all the blame!

ITA!

RW was not associated with the H & S Foundation - his innocent wife was and probably is no longer. To boycott the organization for that reason is tantamount to boycotting all doctors because RW's brother happens to be a physician.

JMO

 

[Hazel]

I think he felt like dying as soon as he was arrested. He just wanted to make sure his wife was taken care of and, as he said in his note, his affairs were put in order before he did anything about it. I still believe he will try again if he gets a chance.

JMO

It was reported that MEH had been visiting her husband in jail, but it hasn't been made clear if she has done so since the papers have been signed. We don't even know if there are more documents that need signing, i.e. divorce papers, etc. I would like to think these visits were out of necessity, not compassion.

He he, your post made me think of a crazy idea: What if he was mad at her for making him sign those papers, and the attempted suicide was his way of revenge (after all it seems like he kinda hates women), he didn't actually wanted to die, but wanted to let the public know that it was her idea to put the house in her name, not his? I know, I know, this is way too crazy, but with RW in mind, I can only think of the craziest of ideas, ROFL.

IMO those were not divorce papers, like you said earlier, we would have heard about that already, and that would mean she wouldn't have access to his military salary/pension, right?

 

[Hazel]

ITA!

RW was not associated with the H & S Foundation - his innocent wife was and probably is no longer. To boycott the organization for that reason is tantamount to boycotting all doctors because RW's brother happens to be a physician.

JMO

Didn't H&S say she was on indefinite paid leave? :waitasec:

 

[antiquegirl]

Sure enough antiquegirl, anything is possible. I only know that if my husband was sneaking in and out of the house in the wee hours of the morning, I would have known
Also, I wasn't only thinking of media reports, more like people talking, neighbours commenting that the house next door, the house 2 streets away, and so forth, had been broken into and police cars were at the scene. Or neighbours talking about an attempted break-in just around the corner. Then the other neighbour installing an alarm system, the other neighbours adding extra outdoor lights, another one installing motion-sensor outdoor lightning, things like that.
I remember viewing a video clip where one of the Fallingbrook resisdents was pointing out to the reporter that practically all his surrounding neighbours had been broken into (or attempted break-in).

I guess we will have to wait and see what else comes out, or what else she does or doesn't do. For now, I'm still giving her the benefit of the doubt

I do see your point, Hazel, but thought I'd mention something from my own perspective. For 23 years we have lived in a relatively small town in a quiet residential area. There isn't a lot of turnover in home-owners on our street. I spent the first 16 years here raising our three children and working full-time, six-days a week. When I got home from work, I got out of my car, went straight into the house, made dinner, and ran a household. I was too tired to get involved in neighbourhood gossip and wouldn't have recognized any of my neighbours if I found one in my bathtub. (All my friends were left behind in Toronto and I made only one here, who lived uptown.) I read the Toronto Star and watched the news on TV, but was only vaguely familiar with local news. Too busy, too tired. Some people are oblivious and it's possible that MEH was one of them. She did have a high-powered job.

Again, I'm just playing devil's advocate and trying to give the poor woman the benefit of the doubt.

 

[flipflop]

:whistle:

Flip = They married in Manitoba in 1991 (20 years?). They lived separated lives since July 2009, when she stayed in Ottawa instead of spending summer in their Tweed cottage (like in previous years), because she was supervising the construction and decoration of the new house.
Still they would see each other during the weekends.

Police in Orleans took very seriously the B&E's; they feared those could escalate because of the sexual overtone. Residents were informed, many of them even installed alarm systems. Looking at the map where the Orleans B&E's took place, it looks like a circle (see map below). Do you think MH was not aware of all those incidents? Orleans/Fallingbrook has their own local papers as well. The last 82 counts go back to 2007.
Neighbours have said they would see them walking holding hands.

Then when they go to Tweed, B&E's stop in Orleans, and start in Tweed. I can understand the Tweed Police and Ottawa Police not connecting the dots sooner, but wouldn't you go like:

• "Wow, seems like that perp is following us wherever we go!" also
• "OMG! it happened again last night, and you were not here with me. Luckily the perp didn't enter our home. BTW, while you were out jogging, didn't you see anybody out there?"

Same for Tweed! Lots of B&E's and always when she was either in Ottawa, out of town or he went for a midnight walk. They were never together everytime an incident happened, she was always by herself or somewhere else. Wasn't she afraid she could be next?

Here are the MAPS again:

Fallingbrook, Orleans = http://www.thestar.com/staticcontent/802314

Tweed = http://www.thestar.com/staticcontent/802283

Ottawa victims of the break-ins told eerily similar stories — backyard windows methodically, almost surgically removed and, in some cases, neatly replaced. The thief left little or no trace.

The above snippet leads me to believe that quite afew b & e's were not even reported as the home owners didn't even realize they were broken into.

“I’m just finding out now that he had been in my home, and I didn’t know about it,’’ she said in an interview.

From this snippet, it again makes me wonder how many homes were entered by RW and no one knew, therefore it was not reported. Therefore MEH would not have known the dates let alone times of many of these homes on the map, to suspect that it could have been RW.

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/802107--police-paint-portrait-of-a-chilling-stalker

 

[nobodyzgirl]

I'm sorry you feel this way?!? So you are not supporting H & S because RW was associated with it... Does that mean that you do not support the Canadian Military as RW was associated with it???? The military and MEH did not do this, RW and RW alone did this. He deserves all the blame!

ITA FlipFlop. I personally will be supporting H&S and the Military - they had nothing to do with the choices that RW made.

 

[antiquegirl]

Ottawa victims of the break-ins told eerily similar stories — backyard windows methodically, almost surgically removed and, in some cases, neatly replaced. The thief left little or no trace.

The above snippet leads me to believe that quite afew b & e's were not even reported as the home owners didn't even realize they were broken into.

“I’m just finding out now that he had been in my home, and I didn’t know about it,’’ she said in an interview.

From this snippet, it again makes me wonder how many homes were entered by RW and no one knew, therefore it was not reported. Therefore MEH would not have known the dates let alone times of many of these homes on the map, to suspect that it could have been RW.

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/802107--police-paint-portrait-of-a-chilling-stalker

Exactly. And to point out again, those maps didn't come out until after RW had been charged with the B & Es.

 

[Wondergirl]

For me, there are two issues here, control and the victims.

RW remains in control if he willingly signs over marital assets to his wife. Being a narcissist, he is allowing that to happen. He is in control. He controls who gets his money.

This SOB ran Canada's largest air movement base. His analytical mind would be well aware of impending litigation, and by taking control, and transferring marital assets to his wife, he would have the final say.

Former RW colleague and advisor Retired General Rick Hillier expressed the sentiments regarding RW’s victims the best:

"We are all victims of a heinous crime," Hillier said. "What you've been doing the last two weeks is incredible. Keep doing it. Do not let a heinous crime and terrible thing destroy this community."

He said leadership will prevent that from happening.

http://www.communitypress-online.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2457836


While MEH is almost surely another of RW’s victims, it does not entitle her to what is rightfully his by law. She may or may not have intentionally agreed to be compensated as a victim herself, by allegedly receiving a fraudulent transfer of marital assets. Only she herself knows this.

One thing is clear in my mind. Anything RW owned or owns should be used to compensate his victims. There will likely be more civil lawsuits.

Any attempts to keep RW’s assets from his victims through means of a narcissistic transfer to his wife, should be reversed or halted by a court of law. There is a 2 week time limit of response, I believe, so we will hear from the defendants soon.

It is all about the victims.