GUILTY Canada - Marie-France Comeau, 37, & Jessica Lloyd, 27, slain, Ont, 2009 & 2010 - #3

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I think you misunderstood the Commander. What happened "today" was the revelation that RW intends to plead guilty. He was not referring to the crimes, but to the fact that he can't strip RW of his rank until the guilty plea is an actuality, not just an intent. Presumably, those are the rules.

JMO

You are correct AG. RW will be rendering his plea on October 18, with sentencing to follow (no doubt his counsel is trying to work some type of deal prior to him pleading and the sentencing). See the very last paragraph from this link.

http://www.canada.com/news/Williams+plead+guilty+first+degree+murder/3637143/story.html
 
Some high ranking people in the field of law enforcement must be very pleased with the guilty plea today. The guilty plea prevents the inevitable embarrassment that a trial would have brought upon them.

Unfortunately these people sighing relief today are the same people who will, or rather would, bring more charges upon RW.

Also unfortunate is that the large majority of public will now consider this case closed. "ignorance is bliss" someone once said.

The fact that an individual like this was able to achieve such high rank and regard is very disturbing. More disturbing is that nothing is being done to change the mentality within law enforcement that their uniformed peers are above the law or at least less capable of breaking it.

The communication challenges posed by the existence of local police agencies are enough to justify getting rid of them. Why does a community the size of Belleville require their own PD when if not the OPP, the RCMP are capable of doing the job in a more proficient and capable manner? The benefits (as they could be refered to as) of added bureaucracy is aiding the criminal.

When the guilty plea arrives we will have lost the opportunity to open up many cans of worms and have some hope of resolving nagging problems.
 
right...I must have missed that in my anger but I did notice they have continued to add to the article as info continues..

I somehow feel that there will be more civil cases to come from the families of the murdered girls.. I agree with Jessica's brother's remark when asked if MEH should be considered a victim..

MEH a victim......NO, MEH is no where near a victim in this case, she was not said to be raped, nor murdered or her home burglarized and her lingerie stolen. Was her world turned upside down due to her husbands extra curricular activities....YES it was, but she is not a victim. The families of each women that RW brought harm to are the victims in this case, the women that are still alive today that were burglarized are victims in this case. MEH does not come close to being classified as a victim, she still has her husband to visit, The Lloyds and MFC's family has a gravesite to visit. MEH can still talk to her husband, she could probably get cojugal visits if she wanted to (not sure who in their right mind would want that with RW)
I do feel sorry for MEH, I cannot imagine what she is going through. However, if it is correct that she is still visiting RW, I feel no sympathy for her. She has lawyers that could do the visits to get things signed and in her name, which tells me that her visits are her choice to continue to support him. I do not know how anyone could continue to support a monster like RW. This is a JMO!
 
Please don't misunderstand. I am not equating for one second MEH's victimization with those of JL, MFC, their families, or the other women who have suffered at RW's hands. However, there are degrees to victimhood. It doesn't have to be all or nothing. This is the dictionary definition of the word:

vic·tim
 
–noun

1.
a person who suffers from a destructive or injurious action or agency: a victim of an automobile accident.

2.
a person who is deceived or cheated, as by his or her own emotions or ignorance, by the dishonesty of others, or by some impersonal agency: a victim of misplaced confidence; the victim of a swindler; a victim of an optical illusion.


I think I can safely say that MEH has suffered and continues to do so. I'm not going to judge her until I know for sure when and why she visited the monster that she was unfortunate enough to call her husband for 20 years.

JMO

R.I.P. Jessica and Marie-France
 
The SOB struck up a relationship with one of his b & e victims' son. I am just seeing red right now at the level of cunning and deception involved with this monster.

In September 2007, Monique Murdoch’s cottage in Tweed, 200 kilometres west of Ottawa, was broken into. It would be the first of 82 fetish break and enters – several of them attempted – in Tweed, Ottawa, Belleville and Brighton.

Murdoch’s next door neighbour was Williams. In 2004, Williams and his wife, Mary Elizabeth Harriman, had bought the cottage at 62 Cosy Cove Lane, a quaint cottage country road where people rarely locked their doors.

“They were always walking hand in hand,” says Murdoch, who has a year-round cottage. “I think he really loved his wife.”

The Murdochs and Williams and Harriman played cards and went ice fishing. Williams, who played the trumpet in high school, struck up a special relationship with Murdoch’s son, who was learning guitar. Murdoch’s home would be broken into two more times.

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/872144--trail-of-crime-finally-leads-to-williams?bn=1

Larry Jones must feel vindicated now.
 
Please don't misunderstand. I am not equating for one second MEH's victimization with those of JL, MFC, their families, or the other women who have suffered at RW's hands. However, there are degrees to victimhood. It doesn't have to be all or nothing. This is the dictionary definition of the word:

vic·tim
 
–noun

1.
a person who suffers from a destructive or injurious action or agency: a victim of an automobile accident.

2.
a person who is deceived or cheated, as by his or her own emotions or ignorance, by the dishonesty of others, or by some impersonal agency: a victim of misplaced confidence; the victim of a swindler; a victim of an optical illusion.


I think I can safely say that MEH has suffered and continues to do so. I'm not going to judge her until I know for sure when and why she visited the monster that she was unfortunate enough to call her husband for 20 years.

JMO

R.I.P. Jessica and Marie-France

I understand and appreciate what your are saying AG, I am going on what we read in the media and that is why I stated IF it is correct that she is still visiting him and supporting him. If she is not and has cut her ties with him, then yes I feel for MEH. MEH did nothing to deserve to have her world turned upside down.
 
New Info, Part 2:

After the tire check in February, police started watching Williams. Three days later, the colonel was in Ottawa when police there asked him to come to the station for a chat.

“I’ll be right there,” he told them.

The colonel had made mistakes, and he was about to make a couple more, perhaps out of arrogance and a growing feeling of invincibility.

He drove to the police station in his Nissan, not bothering to change the tires. And on his feet were boots that police would later determine had treads that matched a partial print left in Comeau’s blood in her basement.

Sitting across from investigators, the colonel had no idea teams of officers were raiding his Ottawa home and Tweed cottage, uncovering piles of damning evidence.

Police at the scenes were feeding back details of what they’d found, in real time, to Williams’ interrogators.

“There are very few search warrants that produce that level of evidence,” said the source. “They had a lot of stuff they could feed back to the interviewer and say, ‘Okay, now we know this.’ ”

Among the evidence: hundreds of pairs of women’s underwear and other lingerie. Also stolen were photographs of the women and in at least one incident, sex toys.

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/872144--trail-of-crime-finally-leads-to-williams?bn=1

Thank you Wondergirl for posting this great article full of answers to some of the many questions we had all these past months.
“I’ll be right there,” he told them.
IMO, he could have been thinking he was going to add the last nail on Mr. Jones' coffin ;)
to have been a fly in that room and see his face!
 
I have the utmost sympathy for JL's brother and the rest of the victims. I can't imagine their pain. But I'm so disturbed that they hope to get answers as to WHY. Andy wants to know "Why her?" and "How did all this come about?". I believe that there are no answers to these questions. There is no reasonable explanation for the workings of a twisted mind. RW is obviously sane, but there are crossed wires in his brain. I don't think he picked his targets for any specific reason except that they were accessible and he had sick, selfish urges that he couldn't, or didn't want to, control.

I fully understand their need for answers, but in some cases, there just aren't any. I truly hope that they will eventually find the strength to move on and at least be glad that the perpetrator of these heinous crimes was apprehended and will be doing his own suffering in a cage for the rest of his miserable life.

JMO
 
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I couldn't help but notice that in this picture RW has a fairly signifigant and very fresh injury to his right shin. He is at Roundel Glen Golf Course on September 23rd, 2009
 
I think you misunderstood the Commander. What happened "today" was the revelation that RW intends to plead guilty. He was not referring to the crimes, but to the fact that he can't strip RW of his rank until the guilty plea is an actuality, not just an intent. Presumably, those are the rules.

JMO

I know what you mean, Antiquegirl.

I did understand what the Commander meant. I just feel it was an insensitive statement.

Everyone recognizes today as the admission of guilt, and it means everything, even if technically, legally and officially, Williams won't formally enter his plea of guilt until the 18th.
 
Project Redwing

Despite the previous discussion here, where the Commander formally stated that "today meant nothing", The National reported tonight, that the military has indeed started the procedure to strip the Colonel of his rank.

The National also reported that the military has opened up what they are calling "Project Redwing", which is a full analysis of crimes occurring in regions where RW was for his military obligations, both in Canada and abroad. I will post a link to this when I can find it, I think they do upload their show.
 
Timothy Appleby from the Globe and Mail has an Interview with CTV

Did anyone watch this interview tonight? I missed the first part of it. He was discussing, in depth, how he thought RW's behaviour transgressed through the years.
 
Interviews with people who knew RW:

George White lived a couple of doors away from Williams and considered him a good friend.

"I'd really like to know, but I won't live long enough to know why, because it will never come out in my lifetime," he said. "My understanding is there's going to be no explanation — [he'll plead] guilty, that's it."

Retired, Lt.-Gen. Angus Watt used to be the commander of Canada's air force, and Williams was a rising star below him.

He was a very promising officer at the time, we all thought," Watt said.
Watt says he's glad to see the case coming to a close.

"I'm satisfied in some ways that justice has been done, and he will likely spend the rest of his life behind bars," Watts said. "I'm also a little mystified, to be honest, that we will never understand what drove him to do this."

In spite of having known Williams well, and having many questions he'd like to ask him, Watt said he had no intention of ever visiting him in prison.

He also said he doubts that Williams would ever want to see him or anyone else associated with the military.

Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/ottawa/story/2010/10/07/ottawa-williams-reaction.html#ixzz11j81GX4V
 
Tweed Residents React:

Marvin Molloy said police never properly warned the community about the sexual predator.


"I find the police department extremely guilty of not telling us what was going on," he said. "That last girl (27-year-old Jessica Lloyd) wouldn't have died if they had."

He is also angry they reportedly overlooked Williams because of his stature in the community.


"They skipped over him because they said he's a colonel, he's pretty high up, he wouldn't be doing crap like that. But we know different," he said. "They should have been looking at him sooner."


Larry Jones, too, is angry. His life was turned upside down last fall when he became a suspect in the two home invasions and sexual assaults.


The two had been next-door neighbours since 2004 when Williams and his wife purchased a bungalow for $178,000 on Stoco Lake.


Jones later learned Williams disposed of Lloyd's body near his hunt camp in an apparent attempt to frame him.


"One lesson I've learned is never trust your neighbour," he said. "You never know who's living next door."

Read more: http://www.montrealgazette.com/news...plead+guilty/3640157/story.html#ixzz11j8nb1AO
 
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When his Nissan Pathfinder matched the distinctive tire track, he was secretly placed under surveillance. Hours after he was brought in for questioning, the cocky commander was placed under arrest.

Eight months later, he seems a beaten and resigned man. Williams has agreed not to fight the 88 charges against him, sparing the murder victims’ families the anguish of living through several years of court proceedings.

The brother of Jessica Lloyd stepped out into the sunshine of a beautiful fall day to talk to the crush of media about his sister and the man who will plead guilty to killing her.

“She could walk into a room at a party and everybody would notice her,” Andy Lloyd said proudly. “She was a very happy, outgoing, friendly person. Everybody loved her.”

He said it’s a relief to know an end is now in sight. “It will be good to get it over with and get back to normal.”

But, of course, it will never be normal again. It is just the two of them now — his mother and himself — and each holiday, each birthday is another aching reminder of what was stolen from them. “Every special occasion isn’t the same,” he said.

Ironically, his late father was a military man and Lloyd grew up on a base near Ottawa. So he holds no grudge against the armed forces, only the mystery man who rose so quickly through its ranks.

Jessica Lloyd’s brother is working on his victim impact statement for next week’s sentencing hearing. With guilty pleas to two counts of first-degree murder, Williams’ fate is pretty well assured: The former commander faces at least the next 25 years behind bars.
http://www.torontosun.com/news/columnists/michele_mandel/2010/10/07/15620931.html


and this quote from Macleans:

“It just goes to show you, you never know where that carton’s gonna come from with the bad eggs,” Andy Lloyd said. “It could be police or firefighter or military or anybody who is supposed to be there to protect people—and they are doing the very opposite.”

http://www2.macleans.ca/2010/10/07/col-russell-williams-faces-life-behind-bars/
 
Well, I can't find any written reference for it, so here are the transcribed, verbatim statements from Andy Lloyd, Jessica's brother, regarding Mary Elizabeth Harriman calling herself a victim in court documents.

(5:00 apx. into the Andy Lloyd interview)

A reporter tells Andy that Mary Elizabeth Harriman states in court documents that she is a victim too. He asks Andy what he has to say to that.

Andy answers "Well, I don't know how you would classify her as a victim, I don't know. It's kind of strange how someone can be MIA for all that time, and someone not know where they are, I don't know. It's strange."

Andy is then asked if he wants to hear from Mary Elizabeth Harriman.

"Maybe when it's all done," Andy says, "yeah."

http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/TopStories/20101007/williams_court_101007/
 
Former CFB Trenton Commander Colonel Russell Williams videoed part of the two murders and two bizarre sexual assaults he will formally plead guilty to later this month, The Globe and Mail has learned.

The videos, confirmed by multiple sources, have never been disclosed publicly before and are the most shocking element of an overwhelming range of evidence against the decorated pilot.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...-he-took-videos-of-the-crimes/article1748914/

I would suspect the video tapes are one of the things that they are trying to keep sealed to protect the victims' families.
 
Canadian Forces spokesman Commander Hubert Genest said the military has not yet determined whether the former Trenton base commander will be stripped of his rank.

"What happened today doesn't mean anything," said Genest. "We don't act on intent."


Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2010/10/07/col-williams-court.html#ixzz11hc3ls3Q

BBM: How insensitive can you be? OMG. It meant alot to so many. Very insensitive.

I posted some time ago with a link to requests to the DND for information under Freedom of Information legislation about Col. Williams. One strange thing stood out: the DND logged these requests under "Russ Williams". Seemed kinda friendly, considering this is the military and all, and considering that he had already been charged by then.
 
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