Canada - USA Trade War commencing March 2025 #3

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  • #141
Do not invite him in. He's a vampire.
The Brits are in an invidious position.. ... having shot themselves out of the EU, with a market of 800 million 26 miles away from their border, they are now in the ghastly position of trying to find buyers and sellers, anywhere, wherever..

Putin has them right where he needs Britain to be, dependent on the USA for some sort of happy sounding trade deal. This is never going to happen, because even the silliest Senator in the US knows the desperate situation the Brits dropped themselves into, they have no bargaining chips at all.. Inviting him in is not only a possibility but was always the probability.
 
  • #142
2 powerful members of BRICS, are India and South Africa.. and they are both members in good standing of the Commonwealth, as well. Trump would have to sit next to BRICS chaps at all the meetings.!! the horror!! Also, a few members of the Commonweath are of the Muslim persuasion, Malaysia, Pakistan, etc.. that would be problematic for Trump. BRICS and Muslims.. dearie me, ...
 
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  • #143
They tried the associate member thing on Trump in 2017 as well. It didn't fly.

I have read in more than one place that it might be to try to help Canada, not hurt it. Specifically with Trump's spouting off about "51st state".

I think it should be noted that this hasn't been offered to any other US president (that I am aware of). Perhaps because there was no need to try to pull the US back into a democracy with anyone else.

imo


While it's not clear if the U.S. would definitely join the Commonwealth, neighbors Canada are part of the group of nations, and at a time of heightened cross-border tensions, being part of the same collective could help ease matters.

we do have the Sussexes and DJT has not deported them.... there is that
 
  • #144
I agree. I so strongly dislike what I am seeing happen.

If you are not a healthy white person, your chances of a 'good life' in the US are growing pretty slim.

Not long ago, I read about Trump telling his nephew that he should let his disabled son die.

Trump told nephew to let his disabled son die, then move to Florida, book says

imo

Why am I not surprised! He is an empty vessel- I believe he is a sociopath- he cares for no one - only himself- he has no feelings for people-that is why he can do what he is doing, with Musk doing the dirty work, but at the order of Trump!!!! He has no conscience---
 
  • #145
Lol I never knew we shared a little territory hans island
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  • #146
Why am I not surprised! He is an empty vessel- I believe he is a sociopath- he cares for no one - only himself- he has no feelings for people-that is why he can do what he is doing, with Musk doing the dirty work, but at the order of Trump!!!! He has no conscience---
..and all those people that are so for him and his 'policies'. All I hear, they agree with his policccccccccies. He is one person to despise, but there are hundreds and hundreds and hundreds among us. Plenty are family members.
 
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Cross-border rally in America and Canada

 
  • #148
we do have the Sussexes and DJT has not deported them.... there is that

Don’t think MM can be deported, she was born in the USA.

It’s Harry that the King is concerned about, wants him to stay in the USA. lol
 
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They tried the associate member thing on Trump in 2017 as well. It didn't fly.

I have read in more than one place that it might be to try to help Canada, not hurt it. Specifically with Trump's spouting off about "51st state".

I think it should be noted that this hasn't been offered to any other US president (that I am aware of). Perhaps because there was no need to try to pull the US back into a democracy with anyone else.

imo


While it's not clear if the U.S. would definitely join the Commonwealth, neighbors Canada are part of the group of nations, and at a time of heightened cross-border tensions, being part of the same collective could help ease matters.

I don't believe that it will ease tensions because the USA aggression towards Canada, Greenland, Panama and other countries is political. The Commonwealth doesn't get involved with politics.
 
  • #150
I don't believe that it will ease tensions because the USA aggression towards Canada, Greenland, Panama and other countries is political. The Commonwealth doesn't get involved with politics.

I think the Commonwealth does get involved with politics. But in an overall capacity, not usually on individual issues. Steering toward democratic norms and providing policy advice on political issues, at times.


Eg: ...... Australia supports the Commonwealth to promote human rights, democratic norms and good governance among member countries.
Australia and the Commonwealth

Another eg: ..... Affirming the role of the Commonwealth as a recognised intergovernmental champion of small states, advocating for their special needs; providing policy advice on political, economic and social development issues; and delivering technical assistance,
Commonwealth Charter
 
  • #151
I think the Commonwealth does get involved with politics. But in an overall capacity, not usually on individual issues.


Eg: ...... Australia supports the Commonwealth to promote human rights, democratic norms and good governance among member countries.
Australia and the Commonwealth

Another eg: ..... Affirming the role of the Commonwealth as a recognised intergovernmental champion of small states, advocating for their special needs; providing policy advice on political, economic and social development issues; and delivering technical assistance,
Commonwealth Charter
I'm really curious whether this is something that Trump came up with, where he is attempting to coerce King Charles into inviting the USA to join the Commonwealth, or whether this came from the UK government. Is Trump pulling out that 2017 idea and trying to push it forward?

King Charles has cancer. William is taking on more senior roles as time goes on. Would King Charles really want to dump the problem of Trump on William at this time? I would be surprised.

However, since this claim is coming from Trump, and is not a formal announcement from the British Royal Family or the Commonwealth, it does seem designed to push King Charles into a corner. Trump is expecting the state visit to include the invitation. If it doesn't happen, what then?

It shouldn't happen - not under the current climate of the USA moving towards Russia, abandoning Ukraine, warring with Canada and threatening to use military force to claim Greenland. This is not a time where the Commonwealth wants an association with the USA. In fact, I think all Commonwealth countries would feel threatened with association to the USA - especially since the USA does not value the same principles.
 
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I'm really curious whether this is something that Trump came up with, where he is attempting to coerce King Charles into inviting the USA to join the Commonwealth, or whether this came from the UK government. Is Trump pulling out that 2017 idea and trying to push it forward?

King Charles has cancer. William is taking on more senior roles as time goes on. Would King Charles really want to dump the problem of Trump on William at this time? I would be surprised.

However, since this claim is coming from Trump, and is not a formal announcement from the British Royal Family or the Commonwealth, it does seem designed to push King Charles into a corner. Trump is expecting the state visit to include the invitation. If it doesn't happen, what then?

It shouldn't happen - not under the current climate of the USA moving towards Russia, abandoning Ukraine, warring with Canada and threatening to use military force to claim Greenland. This is not a time where the Commonwealth wants an association with the USA. In fact, I think all Commonwealth countries would feel threatened with association to the USA - especially since the USA does not value the same principles.

I traced back to the first report. The Independent (Link) said it came from the Daily Mail.

This is the Daily Mail article (below). The journalist apparently got it from "a member". All very vague and the DM frequently lacks credibility, in general. imo

The journalist (Richard Eden) touts himself as writing about the Royals for 20 years and regularly appearing on Palace Confidential. You can click on his name to go to his bio.

I personally think that if an invitation is not extended, and Trump is upset about that .... oh well, too bad. Not seeing any Commonwealth country caring about that. imo

It is just very sad what Trump is doing to his own people and to the Ukraine people. The rest of us will work our way around his broken trade deals and the rest of the garbage.

 
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I traced back to the first report. The Independent (Link) said it came from the Daily Mail.

This is the Daily Mail article (below). The journalist apparently got it from "a member". All very vague and the DM frequently lacks credibility, in general. imo

The journalist (Richard Eden) touts himself as writing about the Royals for 20 years and regularly appearing on Palace Confidential. You can click on his name to go to his bio.

I personally think that if an invitation is not extended, and Trump is upset about that .... oh well, too bad. Not seeing any Commonwealth country caring about that. imo

It's the daily mail romancing again. Charles 3 is a constitutional monarch, he has no power or authority to issue any invitation, overt or covert, secret or shouted out at all. If, in fact , he did this very idiotic thing, he would be busted down to valet and /or butler, in no time flat.

''''The head of the Commonwealth serves as a leader, alongside the Commonwealth secretary-general and Commonwealth chair-in-office. Although Charles III is king of 15 member-states of the Commonwealth, he does not have any constitutional role in any Commonwealth state by virtue of his position as head of the Commonwealth''''

Head of the Commonwealth - Wikipedia ( sorry about it being wiki, Britannica was awfully long and convoluted )

Besides, there would be a lot of gnashing of teeth, since quite a few countries on Trump's hit list are , in fact, Commonwealth members in good standing. . the embarrassment! Pakistan, etc... what a clunker.
 
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  • #155
It's the daily mail romancing again. Charles 3 is a constitutional monarch, he has no power or authority to issue any invitation, overt or covert, secret or shouted out at all. If, in fact he did this very idiotic thing, he would be busted down to valet and /or butler, in no time flat.

''''The head of the Commonwealth serves as a leader, alongside the Commonwealth secretary-general and Commonwealth chair-in-office. Although Charles III is king of 15 member-states of the Commonwealth, he does not have any constitutional role in any Commonwealth state by virtue of his position as head of the Commonwealth''''

Head of the Commonwealth - Wikipedia ( sorry about it being wiki, Britannica was awfully long and convoluted )

Yes, CHOGM would have to vote on it, I would think. That's the usual way a country is accepted into the Commonwealth. Unless there is some other rule for an "associate member", but I wouldn't think there would be a different rule for that.
 
  • #156
I shouldn't think the invitation is true, it's just from the "Basic Manual for handling DJT", ie

1. Smile, smarm, butter him up
2. Then outsmart him, not hard to do.
 
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It turns out that there is a form of associate membership of the Commonwealth called Special Membership. Hitherto it's been for tiny, poverty stricken members who can't keep up with their subscription payments. Basically, there are no subs and you don't get to go to CHOGM. Perhaps this is what they're thinking of offering the States.

 
  • #159
I have a hard time believing that Trump would want to be a part of something where he can't boss everyone else around. He's interested in leadership, not membership. He also fancies the idea of being the American royalty. Inviting USA into the Commonwealth (honorary membership or not) in the present situation is an insult to existing members, IMO.
 
  • #160
I have a hard time believing that Trump would want to be a part of something where he can't boss everyone else around. He's interested in leadership, not membership. He also fancies the idea of being the American royalty. Inviting USA into the Commonwealth (honorary membership or not) in the present situation is an insult to existing members, IMO.
seems there are 3 things you follow....the monet,the paper trail...THE EGO....jat
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