Canada - USA Trade War commencing March 2025 #3

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I can only hope he broke into some of those minds and the republicans there for t dare get it and start acting on it. One person at a time.
He spoke in some detail about friends he has made across the aisle. And he also spoke about bills that they’d worked on together. He joked that he invited Ted Cruz to lunch but it was hard to find a restaurant because Booker is vegan and Cruz is from Texas. :)
 
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I can only hope he broke into some of those minds and the republicans there for t dare get it and start acting on it. One person at a time.
Was reading the interview with Sen. Chris Murphy in New York magazine where he mentions needing this approach. Allowing billionaires to control elections and usher in an era where one group of people has permanent control of government is not a good plan. Betraying allies, aligning with enemies to allow a few wealthy oligarchs to profit is a bad idea. Destroying vital US institutions is very bad.

People who’ve lived through similar situations in other countries say you have to engage the public to fight it. If it goes on too long,people stop resisting and give in out of self preservation. Beware of waiting too long to fight it. It never ends well.
 
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( Sometimes, money can only buy you a cup of cold sick... ) .... bad luck, Elon.. Congrats, Susan.

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Crawford, a liberal judge from Dane county, defeated Brad Schimel, a former Republican attorney general and conservative judge from Waukesha county, after Musk and groups associated with the tech billionaire spent millions to boost his candidacy in what became the most expensive judicial contest in American history.


“Today Wisconsinites fended off an unprecedented attack on our democracy,” Crawford said in a speech at her victory night event in Madison. “Wisconsin stood up and said loudly that justice does not have a price. Our courts are not for sale.”
 
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People who’ve lived through similar situations in other countries say you have to engage the public to fight it. If it goes on too long,people stop resisting and give in out of self preservation. Beware of waiting too long to fight it. It never ends well.
BBM

You’ll be encouraged to know that every night on MSNBC Rachel Maddow leads off her show with photos and video of demonstrations all over the country. They are anti-DOGE and supporting its victims, such as veterans, Social Security, science, USAID, etc. The demonstrations are in large and small cities, in red states as well as blue. They range from several dozen people to several hundred. She also shows town halls throughout the country. Some are held with a cardboard cut-out of the Republican representative who refuses to show up! And of course Bernie, AOC and Walz and Beto have been attracting crowds.

I don’t think I’d know the scope of these demonstrations if I didn’t watch Rachel. I don’t see coverage on CNN, the Washington Post or other MSM sources. I think the demonstrations on Saturday April 5 in all state capitols plus DC and other locations will get more publicity. Whether these demonstrations or Cory Booker’s marathon will have an effect remains to be seen.

To your point, personally I think it’s already too late because Trump moved so fast. I also believe Trump and the people he’s gathered around him will do whatever Trump/Elon want, either out of fear of lack of conscience. They will “disappear” and persecute Trump’s “enemies.” I’m not a pessimist, but a realist. I hope I’m wrong.

JMO
 
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I love it... There are more of you , that is, American citizens , than there are of him. People , of whatever nationality, or cultural background are all alike, in one particular way. People get fed up. Everybody has a point of civic rebellion, and when that becomes the language of the people, things happen. Trump may look like he's moving fast, and somewhat furiously, but he is running on fumes. He is running on ideaology and reality always rises up and dongs ideaology on it''s pointy head .. History tells us this is what , without exception, occurs..
 
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Well, our current Aussie Prime Minister is holding strong.


Ahead of United States President Donald Trump's expected release of more trade tariffs on Thursday [Wednesday in the northern hemisphere], a new US report has taken aim at Australian meat, apples, pears and pharmaceuticals.

It also mentions Australia's mandatory media bargaining code that requires technology platforms to pay local media organisations for content, and requirements on streaming services to feature Australian content.

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese said the news bargaining code, pharmaceuticals, and biosecurity measures on the import of meat and fruit in particular were not up for negotiation.

"Those issues are not up for negotiation from the Australian government," he told reporters on Tuesday.

"We will defend Australia's interests. The idea that we would weaken biosecurity laws is like cutting off your nose to spite your face."

 
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Overall, Trump has slipped to a 43% approval rating - with an even lesser 38% approving of how he is dealing with trade negotiations. (What "negotiations" would they be? 🤔 )

A whopping 76% said using the Signal app to discuss military plans was not appropriate, including 56% of Republicans.

(from your linked article)
Nobody is going to be angrier than the MAGA folks when the windfall not only does not happen, but they are not hearing the normal jingling of coins in the pocket, as well. Not only not positive, but an actual negative reading, which anyone can see is approaching, at warp speed, if I might venture an educated guess. There is no anger like that of folks betrayed and made idiots of. They will not like it, not only because it's happening, but because they thought it would not happen to them. They thought he was on their side, turns out, he's on only one side, and it isn't theirs..

It's a sad situation, but it was easily foreseen ... it's not as if there were no warnings..
 
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Well, our current Aussie Prime Minister is holding strong.


Ahead of United States President Donald Trump's expected release of more trade tariffs on Thursday [Wednesday in the northern hemisphere], a new US report has taken aim at Australian meat, apples, pears and pharmaceuticals.

It also mentions Australia's mandatory media bargaining code that requires technology platforms to pay local media organisations for content, and requirements on streaming services to feature Australian content.

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese said the news bargaining code, pharmaceuticals, and biosecurity measures on the import of meat and fruit in particular were not up for negotiation.

"Those issues are not up for negotiation from the Australian government," he told reporters on Tuesday.

"We will defend Australia's interests. The idea that we would weaken biosecurity laws is like cutting off your nose to spite your face."

Is that similar to Canadian law that requires social media to pay for Canadian content that social media republishes? Social media pretends that by demanding fair payment, the government is censoring news. Not so.

"A free and independent press is fundamental to our democracy," Canadian Heritage Minister Pablo Rodriguez said in a statement. "It levels the playing field by putting the power of big tech in check and ensuring that even our smallest news business can benefit through this regime and receive fair compensation for their work."
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"The fact that these internet giants would rather cut off Canadians' access to local news than pay their fair share is a real problem, and now they're resorting to bullying tactics to try and get their way. It's not going to work," Trudeau said.
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The federal government introduced Bill C-18 in April 2022 with the goal of forcing digital giants, such as Meta and Google, to compensate news publishers for the use of their content.

It is meant to address the "imbalance" between tech platforms and Canadian news publications, allowing them to make "fair commercial deals" without the need for government intervention, the federal government said.

 
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Is that similar to Canadian law that requires social media to pay for Canadian content that social media republishes? Social media pretends that by demanding fair payment, the government is censoring news. Not so.

"A free and independent press is fundamental to our democracy," Canadian Heritage Minister Pablo Rodriguez said in a statement. "It levels the playing field by putting the power of big tech in check and ensuring that even our smallest news business can benefit through this regime and receive fair compensation for their work."
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"The fact that these internet giants would rather cut off Canadians' access to local news than pay their fair share is a real problem, and now they're resorting to bullying tactics to try and get their way. It's not going to work," Trudeau said.
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The federal government introduced Bill C-18 in April 2022 with the goal of forcing digital giants, such as Meta and Google, to compensate news publishers for the use of their content.

It is meant to address the "imbalance" between tech platforms and Canadian news publications, allowing them to make "fair commercial deals" without the need for government intervention, the federal government said.


Yes, it is. If they use Australian news content on their digital platform, they are expected to (mandatorily) pay a royalty.


The Treasury Laws Amendment (News Media and Digital Platforms Mandatory Bargaining Code) Act 2021 is a mandatory code of conduct which governs commercial relationships between Australian news businesses and ‘designated’ digital platforms who benefit from a significant bargaining power imbalance.

The ACCC considers that addressing this imbalance is necessary to support the sustainability of the Australian news media sector, which is essential to a well-functioning democracy.

 
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Well, our current Aussie Prime Minister is holding strong.


Ahead of United States President Donald Trump's expected release of more trade tariffs on Thursday [Wednesday in the northern hemisphere], a new US report has taken aim at Australian meat, apples, pears and pharmaceuticals.

It also mentions Australia's mandatory media bargaining code that requires technology platforms to pay local media organisations for content, and requirements on streaming services to feature Australian content.

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese said the news bargaining code, pharmaceuticals, and biosecurity measures on the import of meat and fruit in particular were not up for negotiation.

"Those issues are not up for negotiation from the Australian government," he told reporters on Tuesday.

"We will defend Australia's interests. The idea that we would weaken biosecurity laws is like cutting off your nose to spite your face."

big news to me that the US has grievances about AUS- you are pretty far away- I think it is Elon's grievance with AUS(!) Most of us are not having bad dreams about the mandatory media bargaining code. the only AUS product I recall ever buying was wine- which was good and inexpensive, though I have not bought wine in years and I guess now I could not afford it.
 
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big news to me that the US has grievances about AUS- you are pretty far away- I think it is Elon's grievance with AUS(!) Most of us are not having bad dreams about the mandatory media bargaining code. the only AUS product I recall ever buying was wine- which was good and inexpensive, though I have not bought wine in years and I guess now I could not afford it.
I know, right?? fancy having grievances with Australia.. or even Canada!! it's like having an argument with Bambi... Trump should be ashamed of his fat self. 😠
 
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I know, right?? fancy having grievances with Australia.. or even Canada!! it's like having an argument with Bambi... Trump should be ashamed of his fat self. 😠

Probably ticked off that no-one wanted to go to Trump Jr's Australian roadshow, so he had to "postpone" (cancel).

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Trump has no logic to anything he does. If he thinks there's a dollar to be made, he grabs at it. That includes Canada, Greenland, Panama, Arctic shipping channels. Tax cuts will add $3-4 trillion to the debt (Bloomberg). Cancelling social infrastructure reduced costs by 1%, but the fallout might cost 10 times more - no one knows.

Republicans, who enjoy taunting others, are not interested in logic. They merely wait for the next moment that they can laugh at the same taunting - the one-liner that amuses his followers day after day, month after month. Nothing else phases them.

Trump wants Canada's arctic shipping lanes, but he has no reason to demand anything of Canada. He starts with unjustly enacting Emergency National Security based on 43 kilos of fentanyl. This opens the door for him to violate the free trade agreement and impose tariffs. Tariffs, he said, would make Republicans rich, impoverish Canada, and force Canada to become a USA state under Trump control. This is a funny joke for Republicans. If fentanyl didn't convince Republicans that Canada needs to be annexed, then false claims that the USA subsidizes Canada with $200 billion annually got their attention, convincing them that Canada needed to be "punished."

Then Trump turned to Greenland and decided that he may as well use military force - expecting that no one will stop him. Then greed kicked in, and he decided on tariffs for the entire world. When that wasn't enough, he sent letters to all other countries telling them to adhere to his political ideology, or they would not be allowed to trade with the USA. Realizing that other countries might form new trade partnerships, he said he would add further tariffs to all countries that have cooperative trade agreements that exclude the USA. Now he says that he's going to change the constitution, or start a global war, so he can remain in power for more than 2 terms.

The man is constantly trying to plug holes in his illogical, chaotic plan; constantly escalating the situation.

As 15 countries in Asia form a new trade alliance, Trump starts ranting about tariffs on their ships. It's as though he's spinning out of control because he has no control over anything other than the looming USA recession and increasing cost of living. He probably thinks that he can start and stop wars at his convenience.
I've only read 2 pages here, and this is one of multiple posts by you, where you have referenced "Republicans" who enjoy taunting others. Do you really believe all republicans follow that line of thinking?

The democrats should perhaps focus on coming up with a contender for the next election who isn't the worst of two evils.
 
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I've only read 2 pages here, and this is one of multiple posts by you, where you have referenced "Republicans" who enjoy taunting others. Do you really believe all republicans follow that line of thinking?

The democrats should perhaps focus on coming up with a contender for the next election who isn't the worst of two evils.
I really believe all Republicans follow that line of thinking.. if they didn't , wouldn't they speak out , condemning those actions?? Since they don't , one is left no choice but to believe they do , indeed, follow that line of thinking..
 
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big news to me that the US has grievances about AUS- you are pretty far away- I think it is Elon's grievance with AUS(!) Most of us are not having bad dreams about the mandatory media bargaining code. the only AUS product I recall ever buying was wine- which was good and inexpensive, though I have not bought wine in years and I guess now I could not afford it.
Trump has a grievance against Australia. He tried to buy ,and run, a casino in Sydney way back in 2000 or somewhere, but the NSW police checked him out, like they do anyone wanting to open a business that consists of gambling, and found that Trump was tightly associated with THE MOB of gangsters, and with the Chinese triad folks, so the police decided he was an 'unfit person' to run a casino in Australia. SO there was no deal.

He's been offended ever since, .. not that it worries the NSW police much. They stand by their investigation. .
 
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I've only read 2 pages here, and this is one of multiple posts by you, where you have referenced "Republicans" who enjoy taunting others. Do you really believe all republicans follow that line of thinking?

The democrats should perhaps focus on coming up with a contender for the next election who isn't the worst of two evils.
The first order of business for Democrats is ensuring that democracy survives Donald Trump, Elon and their associates so that there IS an election in 2026 and 2028.

Republicans don’t speak out against taunting because they are terrified of Trump, not necessarily because they personally enjoy taunting by others. As a group, they have lost their conscience and empathy for others in imitation of Trump. He owns them.

JMO
 
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