CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #15

[Confusion]

If he expected to be back before his dad arrived, then why take all of his belongings with him?

And he couldn't have gone to the lake to fish then, because that is 4 miles away.

So I can't figure out where he would go, while taking all of his stuff, and planning to be back by 11.

The creek isn't that far away, and nobody said he'd have to go to the lake. He left some clothes at the house, maybe he brought the backpack along because of something else he wanted with him.

 

[mck16]

Mother never said the phone was old.

I had read that she said it was an old flip phone, it would flame when he texted and she was getting him a new one for Christmas. jmo

 

[jjenny]

I had read that she said it was an old flip phone, it would flame when he texted and she was getting him a new one for Christmas. jmo

She said it was a flip phone, and not that it was old.
I also don't think she meant it was literally flaming when he was texting - rather that he used it a lot.

 

[tiredblondy]

Mark said he tried texting Dylan all afternoon in an area with spotty cellphone service. When he didn't hear anything back by late afternoon, he went to Dylan's friend's house in Vallecito. That friend hadn't seen him.
Mark became alarmed and drove the 20 miles to Bayfield. Dylan's friends there hadn't seen him either. Mark called Elaine Redwine and went to the Bayfield Marshal's Office.


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[Ransom]

IIRC nothing was said about him staying overnight with the friends for monday night, rather that Dylan was going to spend time with them monday and tuesday and on wednesday MR, Dylan and dylans friends were going to do an activity that hadn't been decided on but could be bowling

Re read the transcript I posted above. IMO he was staying the nights with friends.

 

[cluciano63]

:blushingI have a flip phone.)

 

[jennapuppy]

If Dylan's phone stopped working or would not charge on Sunday night-he would have told his father. He would have wanted a new phone, or a loaner or something. Clearly if his father was texting him on Monday, he did not know of any problem with Dylan's phone, if he is telling the truth. Phone stopping working does not work for me.

As far as someone knowing he was coming to town to visit his Dad, why on earth would they think he might be home alone at any time, much less the very first morning, to come by and abduct him?

The abduction probably wasn't something planned in advance. Whether it was an acquaintance or a stranger, my thought is that some creep saw an opportunity and took advantage of it.
imo

 

[Salem]

And how did he create this so-called plan? Did he telepathically communicated with this POI? We are now going into alien abduction territory. This kid wanted to go visit friends as soon as he showed up. His father told him it was too late. If his father drove him to see his friends that Sunday, he would probably spend the night there. So there is no way he was planning some meeting on Monday with an older POI.

Not necessarily. Dylan was supposed to arrive on Saturday. So.. speculating here .... Dylan made plans to see his friends Sunday, then his flight was delayed and he didn't arrive until Sunday. Dad said too late to go see his friends, so Dylan makes quick plans to go see them Mon. morning early. Dylan had plenty of time prior to the plane trip and even on the plane to make other plans. Maybe someone made plans to go fishing with him at some point prior to the trip, on Monday. Dylan forgot in his excitement to see his friends and rescheduling his time with them.

So the person shows up early Monday, because most fishermen go fishing early or late in the evening when the fish are biting. Dylan thinks - oh cool - we can go fishing for an hour or so and then he/she will take me to my friends house.

This could have been a crime of opportunity for the person - no way he would have known that Mark wouldn't be there (unless it is a friend of Mark's that Mark might have said something too?).

Now... honestly, I think if Dylan had made plans to go fishing with someone, Mom and/or Corey would know, especially if Dylan made the plans before departing on his trip. 13-year olds talk about things like that generally. Or he would have told his friends when he made the Sunday plans. Yeah, I'll come hang out with you on Sunday and then Monday I'm going fishing with blah, blah in the morning, but maybe I can come over in the afternoon. So... I don't know.

I'm pretty convinced that Dylan was at Dad's house given the articles of clothing and the Ipod. What I'm not convinced of, is what happened after that.......

Salem

Mother never said the phone was old.

She did on Nancy Grace - said it was an older, flip phone and he had it smoking.

 

[katydid23]

Well they had discussed it and dad had told him he'd take him to his friends when he got back. I think Dylan thought of Bayfield as home. He'd lived there all his life till he moved about a year ago, right?

Dylan and his mother Elaine and brother Cory moved to Colorado Springs last summer, but they are originally from the Bayfield area, about 25 miles from where Dylan went missing.
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...in-bayfield-area-for-missing-dylan-redwine-13

MR said he knew Dylans friends were important to him.

His priority was pretty much with his friends, so I wasn't alarmed," Mark said.

Dylan had asked his father whether he could go to his friends' that evening after they had shopped at Walmart and eaten at a McDonald's in Durango and before the 45-minute drive to Mark's home north of Vallecito Lake. Mark said he told his son it was too late. So Dylan texted friends in Bayfield, his father said, and made arrangements to meet them the next morning.

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I have to say the picture of MR at this article makes my heart ache for him.

I can only speak of what I feel and think. I can't convince anyone to believe the way I do but until an abduction is ruled out I cannot get off the fence.

Dad's and Sons have a different relationship than Mom's and sons. My son would tell my ex I was driving him crazy. He would turn off his cell so I couldn't text him. He always said I was too mothering???

But these statements by dad are exactly the ones that make me go hmmmm...

MR said he knew Dylans friends were important to him.
His priority was pretty much with his friends, so I wasn't alarmed,"

Then why did he start looking around his home area if he wasnt alarmed, and thought he was at his friends? Why didnt he track doen the friends number or drive right down there, to see if he was there? He waited until after 4 to start looking for him. I dont get that.

What I mean is, he is saying contradictory things. He says he wasnt alarmed because he knew he was with his friends. Ohkay, then why did he start searching his area around the cabin, and then wait 5 hrs to check his friends out?

 

[aust amateur slueth]

I had read that she said it was an old flip phone, it would flame when he texted and she was getting him a new one for Christmas. jmo

I belive the actual terminology used was that by the time Dylan stopped texting the phone would literally be smoking

the key word is literally, in other words he usually did lots of texting

 

[tiredblondy]

Well my donuts are gone and we don't have any news to talk about so...I think I'm gonna visit another thread or two here. TTYL

 

[cluciano63]

Is WS giving anyone else problems?

 

[SmoothOperator]

If he thought he was spending the night, then why did he go at 4:30 and say ' where is my son?'

I will try and explain it better:

when I ask why Dad wasnt more concerned when he came home at 11, and Dylan was gone, people say because he figured he got a ride and everything was fine.

Well then, why did he tell people that he went to look for him and then went to Bayfield?

Why didn't he go immediately to see if he made it to his friends? Thats what I dont get.

I understand what you're saying Katy and I believe many have valid questions surrounding these particular details.. IMO that aren't easily explained away..jmo.. regarding Dylan's plan on spending the night with the friends I know it was discussed earlier and there is nothing stated that indicated that there was plans for Dylan to stay overnight with the friends..but rather indicative of just the opposite that Dylan was not planning to spend the night with the friends.. this IMO evident by dads going to Bayfield to PICK UP Dylan from the friends at 4:30 that day..

making IMO even more evident due to the fact that IF DAD HAD ONLY HEADED TO BAYFIELD TO JUST CHECK ON DYLAN AND NOT WITH THE INTENT ON PICKING HIM UP...well then it goes back to the question you above pose that IF he was in fact supposed to spend the night with the friends why in the world was there an entire 5+ hour gap until dad contacted the friends about Dylan.?

hmmm.. I kinda think I just talked in one big circular direction and likely didn't explain well a damn bit of it..lol..regardless I do know what exactly you mean, Katy..

 

[tiredblondy]

I have posted this and I truly think the phone battery was not any good anymore. It died and could not be recharged. It was an old phone per his mom. jmo

Well, I have a flip phone and I know if I'm in an area that does not have good reception the battery dies quicker and more often. It will not hold a charge very long after charging and suddenly you're getting nothing. No warnig or anything..

 

[Darcyline]

But these statements by dad are exactly the ones that make me go hmmmm...

MR said he knew Dylans friends were important to him.
His priority was pretty much with his friends, so I wasn't alarmed,"

Then why did he start looking around his home area if he wasnt alarmed, and thought he was at his friends? Why didnt he track doen the friends number or drive right down there, to see if he was there? He waited until after 4 to start looking for him. I dont get that.

What I mean is, he is saying contradictory things. He says he wasnt alarmed because he knew he was with his friends. Ohkay, then why did he start searching his area around the cabin, and then wait 5 hrs to check his friends out?

That doesn't seem contradictory to me. There has been a LOT of criticism against him for not reacting faster, but if he wasn't alarmed he wasn't alarmed. Sounds like he did a quick look around and then just assumed he was with friends and only started to get alarmed when hours passed with absolutely no contact. Sounds pretty reasonable to me, actually.

 

[tiredblondy]

Is WS giving anyone else problems?

ME! :seeya:

 

[aust amateur slueth]

Re read the transcript I posted above. IMO he was staying the nights with friends.

I didn't read it that way, I took it as he would spend time with his friends monday and tuesday, not stay over necessarily.

and if he was staying over you would expect MR to have a phone number for where he was staying, you would think he would ring first but he went to another of dylans friends places in vallecito first before going to bayfield

 

[SmoothOperator]

Well my donuts are gone and we don't have any news to talk about so...I think I'm gonna visit another thread or two here. TTYL

lol..time for me to jump off the thread for the night as I just read your above post as, "Well my DOUBTS are gone ..."

and I thought well my Lord where did I miss that blondy had come over to the dark side(ie. those leaning heavily toward dad's involvement).. I started scrolling back thru and once getting up to some of the donut convo it dawned on me that DOUBT was actually DONUT..:crazy:..lol

anyway I'm back on track now and with that probably a good time to stop for the night..

 

[Darcyline]

Well, I have a flip phone and I know if I'm in an area that does not have good reception the battery dies quicker and more often.

I think that may happen with any phone in addition to flip phones. At least, when we are at my parents' cabin our phones go dead all the time and very quickly because they are constantly searching for reception that doesn't exist. I basically have to stop using mine for the duration of my visits home and it sort of sucks.

I do think it is possible his phone died though that does not explain the no contact in itself.

 

[Crosby87]

Regarding the protective order - Is MR saying when his adult son beat him he didn't know he was being beaten and aware of what was happening to him? Why not? And where did this happen?

Is MR saying his adult son attacked him when he was unable to defend himself and he left him alone to die, but he regained consciousness?

Is this what Cory did to his father?