CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #18

[shefner]

The biggest question I have now, for myself, is this: Was what happened to Dylan intentional or accidental?

 

[ICUDOUCME]

This video is the one I asked about, has alot of the same photos as before in previous videos but there is more to this one...Dylan has natural curl to his hair when it's longer at least in this video.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgsZwb_OYW8&feature=share"]516992501644744 10228 - YouTube[/ame]

 

[scorekeeper]

It really did sound like a super organized, expensive, well planned out itinerary.

So how did it happen that just 2 months later, he fights to get him to come to town for a Thanksgiving trip, and he makes ZERO plans for them for the week. The most he had planned was to 'maybe bowl or something on wednesday.'

There is a huge difference between the 2 vacations. Since he knew his son was coming for the week, wasn't there something really fun he could have planned for Tuesday or Wednesday? I only say that now because his August trip makes him look like a planner and a creative dad. But this November trip was a mess.

And I don't believe for a minute that he ever seriously considered going to Dylan's new hometown for Thanksgiving. He may have said it was an option because Dylan probably was pushing for it. imo

Did they purchase all the stuff for Thanksgiving dinner at Walmart...turkey, potatoes, green beans, rolls, pumpkin pie???

Was there enough groceries in the house for 2 men to eat? I mean a 13 year old boy is eating, texting and changing the channel on the TV all at the same time....

 

[LotusPawprint]

How do we know how good an employee he was?
Elaine didnt even know what kind of job he has.
I dont think these two spoke to each other at all.
There is definately very bad blood between the two and it has t be pretty horrible for their missing child not be able to mend it JMO

I didn't say he was a good employee. I don't know what kind of employee he was/is.
I was referring to:


Because of the economic recession, Mark Redwine has been working out of the area and comes home to Vallecito when he can.
“Fathers and mothers do what we got to do” to support their families, even if that means long-distance jobs, Redwine said.


^^^ That doesn't sound like someone who is able to fund a well-planned, expensive "dream vacation" cross-country trip with his son just three months ago. JMO.

 

[OtherEyes]

AZgrandma did MR call your son "that boy" or "the boy"?

never

WOW...IMO very telling!:what:

 

[catswhiskers]

Again, we are all able to see things so differently. I watch that interview ( the "uncut" one that clearly is cut) every time someone else references it, just to see what I have missed - and I honestly don't see anything sinister. To me he seems like a dad who is just holding it together. He is red eyed, tired and drawn looking, and sounds sincere to me. I fear none of us would fare very well if we had our every word and nuance ( in one clip) dissected, quoted and analysed in such depth, and by so many.
I'm still preferring to look at what little is actually known and consider possibilities that don't point towards MR. What I am seeing are comments everywhere (not just here) that are based on the presumption that it's all about MR - even though IMO there is no real evidence or clues leading to anyone. MOO, but surely he can't just be guilty by default.
IMO a lot of things that have been tossed around as suggestions/ opinions have somehow morphed into facts. I have read them myself repeatedly and squirmed, and wondered how they have come to be quoted or tossed out there and simply accepted as known facts.
I keep checking in here because like everyone else I really want some news about Dylan, or something from LE to discuss - and I know new info makes it to these boards very quickly thanks to interested posters and their links. Right now I feel I've run out of puff though - it's become hard work for me because I am so uncomfortable. I can't get past the notion that we have no real evidence that MR is not a grieving dad.
:moo:

 

[rebeccaeee]

This video is the one I asked about, has alot of the same photos as before in previous videos but there is more to this one...Dylan has natural curl to his hair when it's longer at least in this video.

516992501644744 10228 - YouTube

This vid breaks my heart. Everything about this case does. Where are you, Dylan?

 

[Eileen730]

The biggest question I have now, for myself, is this: Was what happened to Dylan intentional or accidental?

I think accident!

 

[mijamawi]

Again, we are all able to see things so differently. I watch that interview ( the "uncut" one that clearly is cut) every time someone else references it, just to see what I have missed - and I honestly don't see anything sinister. To me he seems like a dad who is just holding it together. He is red eyed, tired and drawn looking, and sounds sincere to me. I fear none of us would fare very well if we had our every word and nuance ( in one clip) dissected, quoted and analysed in such depth, and by so many.
I'm still preferring to look at what little is actually known and consider possibilities that don't point towards MR. What I am seeing are comments everywhere (not just here) that are based on the presumption that it's all about MR - even though IMO there is no real evidence or clues leading to anyone. MOO, but surely he can't just be guilty by default.
IMO a lot of things that have been tossed around as suggestions/ opinions have somehow morphed into facts. I have read them myself repeatedly and squirmed, and wondered how they have come to be quoted or tossed out there and simply accepted as known facts.
I keep checking in here because like everyone else I really want some news about Dylan, or something from LE to discuss - and I know new info makes it to these boards very quickly thanks to interested posters and their links. Right now I feel I've run out of puff though - it's become hard work for me because I am so uncomfortable. I can't get past the notion that we have no real evidence that MR is not a grieving dad.
:moo:

Thank you is not enough. I feel exactly the same way.

 

[Seajay]

I think accident!

I think he was intentionally taken by someone other than his father.

 

[OtherEyes]

Again, we are all able to see things so differently. I watch that interview ( the "uncut" one that clearly is cut) every time someone else references it, just to see what I have missed - and I honestly don't see anything sinister. To me he seems like a dad who is just holding it together. He is red eyed, tired and drawn looking, and sounds sincere to me. I fear none of us would fare very well if we had our every word and nuance ( in one clip) dissected, quoted and analysed in such depth, and by so many.
I'm still preferring to look at what little is actually known and consider possibilities that don't point towards MR. What I am seeing are comments everywhere (not just here) that are based on the presumption that it's all about MR - even though IMO there is no real evidence or clues leading to anyone. MOO, but surely he can't just be guilty by default.
IMO a lot of things that have been tossed around as suggestions/ opinions have somehow morphed into facts. I have read them myself repeatedly and squirmed, and wondered how they have come to be quoted or tossed out there and simply accepted as known facts.
I keep checking in here because like everyone else I really want some news about Dylan, or something from LE to discuss - and I know new info makes it to these boards very quickly thanks to interested posters and their links. Right now I feel I've run out of puff though - it's become hard work for me because I am so uncomfortable. I can't get past the notion that we have no real evidence that MR is not a grieving dad.
:moo:

I just wanted you to know that I really do respect your opinions.

 

[Eileen730]

If Dylan

Again, we are all able to see things so differently. I watch that interview ( the "uncut" one that clearly is cut) every time someone else references it, just to see what I have missed - and I honestly don't see anything sinister. To me he seems like a dad who is just holding it together. He is red eyed, tired and drawn looking, and sounds sincere to me. I fear none of us would fare very well if we had our every word and nuance ( in one clip) dissected, quoted and analysed in such depth, and by so many.
I'm still preferring to look at what little is actually known and consider possibilities that don't point towards MR. What I am seeing are comments everywhere (not just here) that are based on the presumption that it's all about MR - even though IMO there is no real evidence or clues leading to anyone. MOO, but surely he can't just be guilty by default.
IMO a lot of things that have been tossed around as suggestions/ opinions have somehow morphed into facts. I have read them myself repeatedly and squirmed, and wondered how they have come to be quoted or tossed out there and simply accepted as known facts.
I keep checking in here because like everyone else I really want some news about Dylan, or something from LE to discuss - and I know new info makes it to these boards very quickly thanks to interested posters and their links. Right now I feel I've run out of puff though - it's become hard work for me because I am so uncomfortable. I can't get past the notion that we have no real evidence that MR is not a grieving dad.
:moo:

If Dylan was last with Mom id be looking at her but he wasnt!
He was with his dad
I have not seen Grief from this father! But thats neither here nor there.
If LE would rule him out we could move on!
JMO

 

[mijamawi]

If you don't mind me asking, AZGrandma, how long were y'all together? How long has it been since you've had a conversation with MR. I respect the fact that you've come here and shed some light on MR, but I honestly can't take your opinion as unbiased. It would be like taking the word of an Oklahoma Sooner's opinion of a Texas Longhorn. Too much history to be objective. JMO

 

[Eileen730]

I think he was intentionally taken by someone other than his father.

Ok !
So who do you think?
Family member?
Neighbor?
Stranger?

Did MR lock the door before he left?
Was it still locked when he got home?
there are so many questions and no answers for us anyway!

 

[LotusPawprint]

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I'm still preferring to look at what little is actually known and consider possibilities that don't point towards MR. What I am seeing are comments everywhere (not just here) that are based on the presumption that it's all about MR - even though IMO there is no real evidence or clues leading to anyone. MOO, but surely he can't just be guilty by default.
IMO a lot of things that have been tossed around as suggestions/ opinions have somehow morphed into facts. I have read them myself repeatedly and squirmed, and wondered how they have come to be quoted or tossed out there and simply accepted as known facts.
I keep checking in here because like everyone else I really want some news about Dylan, or something from LE to discuss - and I know new info makes it to these boards very quickly thanks to interested posters and their links. Right now I feel I've run out of puff though - it's become hard work for me because I am so uncomfortable. I can't get past the notion that we have no real evidence that MR is not a grieving dad.
:moo:

I'm with you on some of the above -- trying to look at the little that's actually known and consider other possibilities. I just can't ignore MR no matter how I slice it, I'm not narrowed in on him or one theory but the investigation isn't doing him any favors and mainly they're not doing Dylan any favors in the eyes of the public.
Even though the public "doesn't matter", it does, because if Dylan is "out there" and someone else is involved, LE hasn't answered some basic questions about MR and directed focus to where it should be (or where it shouldn't be). Unless LE has this whole case covered and their POI/suspect in sight, they'll need tips, leads and the public needs guidance to help.
Sorry you feel uncomfortable I always find your posts very interesting even when I don't agree, hopefully the discourse on the boards can remain civil enough so nobody gets worn out.
Or Dylan can come home and we can all rejoice and then take a much needed nap!

 

[popsicle]

If Dylan

If Dylan was last with Mom id be looking at her but he wasnt!
He was with his dad
I have not seen Grief from this father! But thats neither here nor there.
If LE would rule him out we could move on!
JMO

LE hasn't ruled anyone out.

 

[scorekeeper]

I can't get past the fact that Dylan's phone somehow quit working around 8 pm or broke but whichever....no activity and this is never mentioned by Mark...even after the information was released by LE

I can't get past the fact that there was NO communication or contact from Dylan after the phone mystery.

I can't get past the fact that dad's story goes from walmart/out to eat to the next morning. What the heck happened from 8 pm on? Did Dylan make it back to the house?

I can't get past the fact that LE can't/won't say if Dylan did make it to Mark's house. I can't get past the face that LE can't/won't say if the dogs picked up Dylan's scent at his dad's house and where did that scent lead?

I can't get past the fact that dad was the last one to see Dylan.....

Until LE releases more information or a break in the case happens, I can't honestly take my eyes off dad.

 

[Eileen730]

LE hasn't ruled anyone out.

I know that!
I was only explaining why I was looking at dad.
Dylan was with Dad when he went missing!

 

[OneLove]

IMO, I think Mark has some major issues I dont think he set out to harm his son and if it turns out he did I do think it was spontaneous and something he couldnt controll unfortunately. All JMO

Could you give us an idea of what you base your opinion on? Thanks. Just curious.

 

[Eileen730]

I wonder why he had to go to the lawyers that Monday!
This Lawyer would know Dylan was in town why have dad come to the office?
What was so important?