CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #22

[Eileen730]

Well, we'd better get started building a lot of gallows. I wouldn't even want to try counting the times I hear/see LE say no comment in response to a question every month. What I more relevant is LE stating that he is not considered a suspect, and that his story has stayed consistent, even if the press does change wording at times. MOO

They have also said no one has been ruled out! that to me says more than hes not considered a suspect!

JMO

 

[popsicle]

I do nOt think he did. Surely it is LE's job to clear MR as his name is being dragged though the mud in that town . So if you can conclusively place Dylan at the house then i think LE would say so as there is no point in not doing so and leaving a innocent man hung out to dry and i also think if MR could be cleared he would also be talking to the press which is not doing .


IMHO.

Umm, no it's not.

 

[Idon'tneedthesame]

A grown man clutching a pillow when he answered the door caught my attention to. Seemed odd to me but I couldn't pinpoint why. Had he been crying or screaming into it, was he just in the middle of making his bed, was it for effect? Just made me go hmmm? Imo

The man can't win..No matter what he says or does. jmo of course.

 

[Confusion]

I do nOt think he did. Surely it is LE's job to clear MR as his name is being dragged though the mud in that town . So if you can conclusively place Dylan at the house then i think LE would say so as there is no point in not doing so and leaving a innocent man hung out to dry and i also think if MR could be cleared he would also be talking to the press which is not doing .


IMHO.

Can you conclusively show that he never arrived there? I'm curious to know how LE is responsible for any mudslinging that may be done. They haven't ruled anyone out, and every time they've stated that MR has cooperated and is not being called or considered a suspect (usually it says called), people jump on it saying that he must be a suspect or they wouldn't say it since they don't say it about anyone else. I think it's quite possible that they have said it about him, more than once, because so many people are accusing him of things with no evidence.

 

[StJohn]

azgrandma, I appreciate that you are walking a fine line posting here as MR's ex, so I will understand if you don't feel comfortable answering this: Did MR's drinking cause problems in your marriage or contribute to your marriage breaking up? TIA Also, apologize if you have already been asked as I have not seen it, thanks

 

[aust amateur slueth]

Well, we'd better get started building a lot of gallows. I wouldn't even want to try counting the times I hear/see LE say no comment in response to a question every month. What I more relevant is LE stating that he is not considered a suspect, and that his story has stayed consistent, even if the press does change wording at times. MOO

see I take that lightly, as we keep seeing on the front page of these threads we are finding that LE are reluctant to name a suspect or POI unless an arrest is imminent.

once they name a person as a suspect or POI thats when the person lawyers up and shuts up

 

[Confusion]

They have also said no one has been ruled out! that to me says more than hes not considered a suspect!

JMO

They have ruled out nobody, that would include him, ER, MH, CR the mailman, the friends, the guy next door, the trash man and everybody else. I don't see how it proves his guilt any more than anyone else's. JMO

 

[Eileen730]

And unfortunately that's probably the hardest to prove - especially for someone who lives alone. How could I prove to anyone that my kids slept in my house last night?

Dirty dishes, laundry, PHONE PINGS, internet activity text messages
neighbors, fingerprints,.

 

[FruitTingles]

The man can't win..No matter what he says or does. jmo of course.

ITA. No, he can't. Everything is "wrong", and how he acts is not how he should be acting.

:banghead:



JMO.

 

[mck16]

And unfortunately that's probably the hardest to prove - especially for someone who lives alone. How could I prove to anyone that my kids slept in my house last night?

That's right. And as far as DR's dna it could be there from September. I think it is very strange that LE is so quiet and even when they talk they are very careful not to throw any hints. jmo

 

[imamaze]

We can discuss our speculation based on facts, we cannot post out and out rumors. You can not speculate on something that is not known thru the media and or law enforcement.

If you need more clarification you can pm me or any Mod.

Thank you.

Ima

You can discuss MR with what we know, bumping what I just posted to make sure everyone sees it.

Out and out rumors are not allowed.

 

[catswhiskers]

if it were me I'd piff the pillow onto a chair or sofa before answering the door.

its funny I've read that article before but didn't notice this

'Neighbors expressed suspicion Tuesday afternoon that foul play may be involved.

wow I wonder why the neighbours thought that so quickly?

So much lousy reporting by some of these journalists! Why would you drop that sentence into the mix and then not give any further info? You can't tell me that a neighbour said that, but then the journalist wouldn't have asked what made them say that?

 

[katydid23]

Just an observation but if MR is capable of carrying out all the theories that have been posted here, in my opinion would make him a clinically crazy man. a schizo, psychopath, mentally disturbed person who would kill his son in a rage or in premeditation. Not a person who happens to be a father that had his son visit him just 2 months before, fought for a Thanksgiving visit, and was reportedly upset because he lost shared custody when ER moved away. jmo

True. And when I read about his arrest for the argument over the broken toy truck, where he terrorized a neighbor kid and parent over something so silly, it made me think he might be crazy. And if the charges that ER made, about him having sex outdoors under her window, with his kids inside on the 4th of July were true, then again, that made me think he might be nuts. :nuts:

Yes, I know, maybe ER made up those accusations. But they seem to unbelievable to be made up, and both the kids would have been witnesses, so I don't think she could have made them up from nothing, imo.

 

[mck16]

I never saw that. I agree...why did the neighbors think that I wonder.

I don't understand. What else would you think? tia

 

[FruitTingles]

IMO, LE would look at everyone. Including the mailman, ER, etc. and so on.



JMO.

 

[asyousay]

Can you conclusively show that he never arrived there? I'm curious to know how LE is responsible for any mudslinging that may be done. They haven't ruled anyone out, and every time they've stated that MR has cooperated and is not being called or considered a suspect (usually it says called), people jump on it saying that he must be a suspect or they wouldn't say it since they don't say it about anyone else. I think it's quite possible that they have said it about him, more than once, because so many people are accusing him of things with no evidence.

I think me and you did this yesterday. I can not prove it anymore than you can prove he did arrive there. It is a stalemate

Because why would LE let a innocent man be hung out to dry if they can stop it ?- what would be the point !


LE have never come out and said Dylan was there that night and if they have prove of that then i think they would say so as they have no reason not to.

IMHO -

 

[Eileen730]

I do nOt think he did. Surely it is LE's job to clear MR as his name is being dragged though the mud in that town . So if you can conclusively place Dylan at the house then i think LE would say so as there is no point in not doing so and leaving a innocent man hung out to dry and i also think if MR could be cleared he would also be talking to the press which is not doing .


IMHO.

I dont think he was there either!

dont you think if MR took a poly and passed he would have said something esp after what Elaine has said.

I just think if he passed he and le would have said so and cleared the guy!

JMO

 

[SmoothOperator]

You are entitled to your opinion, but I don't happen to share it. I've known many people over the years who have done something they aren't proud of after having too many at a holiday party. I've also known many who have said or done things out of anger after drinking that they wouldn't normally do. Not all of them drink every day, are always drunk or are even alcoholics. As a matter of fact, even alcoholics that I know don't always drink every day (some do), and a few almost never even get drunk. I've also only seen one statement that says he was "having sex", but that can mean different things to different people - just ask Bill Clinton! MOO

The above is all well and good tho, I'm altogether confused on how it has a dang thing to do with MR's drinking and behaviors..

THE comment of which you quoted makes zero claim of MR being an EVERYDAY DRINKER..so not sure how this even relates to the comment either..

the only thing given was an opinion on MR likely not being JUST AN OCCASSIONAL drinker, but nothing about his being a daily drinking alcoholic whose in the throes of DTs if not having a drink by 3pm<--nothing even remotely similar was stated..

I would dare to say that the majority of us can come up with examples of people we've known or encountered thru life that are mild, occasional, frequent, regular, habitual, or even daily drinkers with an equally wide ranging spectrum of differing demeanors..

so, again not sure on how the former prez sexual endeavors even compare to this situation, AFAIK Clinton has never been known to be volatile and angry..several incidents of which culminated in criminal charges .. I dont see the relevance and certainly no comparisons in any way whatsoever to MR or the case..

but thats all jmo and nada damn thing more.

It was absolutely disgusting, but it wasn't life threatening as was what ER did. And we are talking an act of murder by MR. that is the point I was trying to make. jmo

I disagree that Mark's volatile and violent lashing out, going as far to attempt to assault one of his sons that night(quite possibly Dylan)..but regardless of which minor aged son it was the only reason he failed at it is because he was too drunk to be able to connect the punch he was throwing at his son..to which Dylan retaliated and hit back..

I FIND MR'S VOLATILE AND VIOLENT LASHING OUT IN ANGER, RESENTMENT, AND GOD ONLY KNOWS WHAT ELSE TO BE EXTREMELY LIFE THREATENING...in my world he doesn't get cut a "break" for failing to follow thru on assaulting his son due to his level of intoxication being the reason his attempt was failed.....the attempting to swing punches at his son(s) SPEAKS LOUDLY IMO..

That confuses me more than anything. I get erring on the side of caution and not being willing to lay blame at Mark's feet just yet. I do not get trashing Elaine in an attempt to justify Mark's behavior. What is the purpose? Elaine could be any number of horrible things but that doesn't change the fact that she was nowhere around when Dylan disappeared off the face of the Earth.

yet time and again it seems that there is this very real need to "even the playing field" WRT ER and MR in this case..

it'll never be an "even" field, due to the fact that the cut and dry facts and dynamics were ER was hundreds and hundreds of miles away from Dylan when he was "disappeared"..along with the fact that ER had been extremely successful in moving her and her children's lives foward in a positive direction.. a woman completely fulfilled in the multiple facets of her life...as full time, primary parent, as significant other to a man whom she not only was in love with, but also that her boys respect ..with them living together as a family unit and together providing a stable home life...as well as career wise ER had moved forward..<---these all together represent a very positive direction had been successfully chartered by Elaine and her boys..

IMO there are issues at hand that will never make this case a tit for tat of anything even resembling an equal playing field WRT ER and MR..no matter what or how much is thrown at the wall in attempts to somehow "even" an imaginary, none existent score between the two..

all jmo.

 

[Eileen730]

I have problems with these cases where the last person known to see a missing person wont say if they passed a poly or not.

As I see it if they passed they would be screaming it!

If they didnt take one why not?

Rule yourself out and move on.
jmo

 

[aust amateur slueth]

So much lousy reporting by some of these journalists! Why would you drop that sentence into the mix and then not give any further info? You can't tell me that a neighbour said that, but then the journalist wouldn't have asked what made them say that?

oh there was more if you read the article including a neighbours reasoning for thinking that