CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #24

[FruitTingles]

Hey I just noticed your signature! Congrats! :seeya:

Thanks but she's still not here. :cry:

 

[mmmagique]

Why don't we ever hear of the media asking questions anymore? When ER said that sometimes MR was not very nice to Dylan, for example (paraphrasing) why did not someone jump on that and ask what she meant, or what made her say it? Was she talking about the time when he was nine, or more recent issues?

I am just so depressed about this case, truly. I don't believe that LE has done enough, if they really think he was abducted. But seeing how they can't or won't rule out MR makes me very uncomfortable. I think the time has long passed where Dylan is likely to be alive. His age is against him in that, even if he WAS taken by a predator.

I read on one of those pages that a reporter is trying for an interview for next Sunday-isn't time of the essence? I never understand the delays between interviews, or the long range planning of fund raisers. It almost seems like no one has any expectation that anything will break.

JMO with much frustration.

Nancy Grace is a bit too aggressive and doesn't listen to and analyze what her guests say, imo. Her brand of "interviewing" may work in court to throw the opposition off, but if she'd just slow down and actually "hear" what people tell her, we'd all learn more. (imo)

Why should they have any expectation anything will break? No one's talking, and no one's putting pressure on anyone. It appears to be stagnant.

 

[NC Analyzer]

*my apologies as I'm once again in catch up mode so this post will very likely land randomly amidst very different discussion/topics*


I must say IMO you are not alone in your comparing these two cases.. and IMO dependant upon what one's opinion is on the most likeliest scenarios or theories in this case that led to Dylan's no longer being here, that THE COMPARISON MAY IN FACT BE WARRANTED WITH THE TWO CASES BEING MORE SIMILAR, THAN NOT..

What I mean is that IMO those whose view is dad NOT being responsible or involved in Dylan's disappearance, but rather believe that something happened to Dylan when he had left his father's home that morning while dad was gone.(and the reasons for his leaving have been numerous, as in setting off to hitchhike to friends, setting off to walk to go fishing, or setting off to walk to any number of places that are unbeknownst at this time)

So, in looking at this common theory in this case of Dylan being abducted while NOT in his dad's presence(ie.while MR was gone running morning errands/appts 7:30-11:30am).. IMO this theory or thought is in fact EXTREMELY SIMILAR in its dynamics as the Jessica Ridgeway case.. in fact much more alike than not alike and for example below I'll list a few of those extreme similarities that immediately come to mind:

•-child is alone and not under the supervision of an adult.
•-child is on foot.
•-child leaves from a parents home.
•-child is walking along road near parents home.
•-large window of time passes from point of abduction to point of being discovered as missing.

Again those are JUST the ones that IMMEDIATELY came to mind, as IMO there actually are several other similarities valid for comparison IF YOUR OF THE OPINION THAT MR IS IN NO WAY INVOLVED OR RESPONSIBLE..I am always reevaluating the case and running all theories of possibilities thru my mind in seeing if there is anything that clicks or becomes apparent that I may have missed or overlooked previously..and in recently doing so while running through the scenarios that do not in any way involve MR I kept coming to some of the constant variables that were present in the vast majority of the "dad in no way involved scenarios"(example the several above bulletpoint listed) and then it clicking that IMO ALL OF THESE CONSTANT VARIABLES&SCENARIOS HAVE MUCH MORE SIMILARITIES THAN NOT, TO THE JESSICA RIDGEWAY CASE!

and then IMO what further clicked for me was the fact that this IMO in the end only further IMO solidified that in all likelihood that these particular scenarios are not at play here in Dylan's case... that IMO in all likelihood that even when continuing to thoroughly look at and reevaluate ALL OF THESE OTHER THEORIES that do NOT involve MR, that I always come full circle leading to the most likely scenario DOES unfortunately involve dad, MR<--obviously this conclusion is a personal opinion but want to make sure and reiterate that its MOO.

This IMO leading me back to what Lotus touches on in her post above, the comparison to Jessica Ridgeway's case and IMO the fact that when looking at Dylan's case from the perspective of non-familial abduction THE SIMILARITIES ARE STRIKING IMO..I mean to a point that not only elevates the case to be warranted to a comparison with the Ridgeway case, but in doing so IMO what becomes IMO quite apparent are the drastic, huge differences that are present in the way in which all LE agencies(local, state, and FBI<*including having agents that are working BOTH CASES*>) have handled the two cases..

Both cases rightfully have a huge amount of LE agencies used and at their disposal(local, state, FBI).. and IMO the fact that when looking at Dylan's case, thoroughly evaluating the scenarios that do not involve MR WHAT EMERGES ARE STRIKINGLY SIMILAR POINT FOR POINT DETAILS PRESENT IN JESS'S CASE..

Again to emphasize this issue is IMO imperative due to the fact that IMO when I repeatedly, time and time again go over the dynamics of the non-familial abduction scenarios(ie. MR not involved scenarios/theories), ALL OF THESE THEORIES HAVE THESE SAME, CONSTANT VARIABLES THAT ARE PRESENT IN JESS'S CASE..

IMO THE IMPERATIVE ISSUE IS clearly seeing and recognizing just how glaringly apparent it is that these LE agencies(local, state, FBI) could not be handling this case, Dylan's case ANY MORE DRASTICALLY DIFFERENT AND/OR OPPOSITE THAN THE RIDGEWAY CASE.. <-- IMO this NEEDS NO long, further droning on by me in explaining WHAT/WHY THAT IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE WELL WORTH NOTING AND IMO "TELLING"..

As always tho, this is nothing more than jmo..

Yep. What she said. Completely agree.
All similar circumstances surrounding the disappearance except when looking at LE response.
Then, everything leads right back to MR.
JMO

 

[PlainJaneDoe]

Thanks but she's still not here. :cry:

Oh! Oh gosh I'm sorry! :blushing:

 

[FruitTingles]

Yikes - I don't see signatures on my ipad !! What's the baby news!? FruitTingles - spill the beans for me please?

No news CW. Looks like I have to be induced next week. The absolute thing I wanted to happen!!! :sigh:

 

[Salem]

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Which means everything MR says or does will be put under scrutiny because:
1. He was the last person to see Dylan alive.
2. There is a gap of missing time between Sunday 8pm and Monday morning.
3. MR does have a history of unacceptable behavior around his children.
4. MR pattern of filing Family Court motions long after the divorce is over.
5. MR took a swing at his 9-yr old son.
JMO

Can you link up the bolded part for me, please? I missed this. I didn't know we had figured out who kept filing the motions that kept the proceedings in court for so long.

Thanks,

Salem

 

[NC Analyzer]

Nancy Grace is a bit too aggressive and doesn't listen to and analyze what her guests say, imo. Her brand of "interviewing" may work in court to throw the opposition off, but if she'd just slow down and actually "hear" what people tell her, we'd all learn more. (imo)

Why should they have any expectation anything will break? No one's talking, and no one's putting pressure on anyone. It appears to be stagnant.

HA!! I don't even think Nancy Grace would survive 5 minutes in court with the same attitude she exhibits on her show! Judge wouldn't have it. And she doesn't "interview" anyone, nor does she interrogate. She screams, rants, raves, accuses and blames. It's all about HER. "Pay attention to her, listen to her, answer her question...no wait, she asks and answers her own questions. :banghead:

 

[Confusion]

No news CW. Looks like I have to be induced next week. The absolute thing I wanted to happen!!! :sigh:

Just keep reminding yourself that she'll be worth the wait no matter how long she takes! Good luck.

 

[NC Analyzer]

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Can you link up the bolded part for me, please? I missed this. I didn't know we had figured out who kept filing the motions that kept the proceedings in court for so long.

Thanks,

Salem

This was from the AZ court pages we were invited to sleuth by AZgrandma. I don't have the link because you all told us not to talk about it, but I'm sure I could find it again if I had to.

 

[Linda7NJ]

Do we know he never spent Thanksgiving or Christmas with his dad before?

I do not believe he did the previous three years.




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[Linda7NJ]

HA!! I don't even think Nancy Grace would survive 5 minutes in court with the same attitude she exhibits on her show! Judge wouldn't have it. And she doesn't "interview" anyone, nor does she interrogate. She screams, rants, raves, accuses and blames. It's all about HER. "Pay attention to her, listen to her, answer her question...no wait, she asks and answers her own questions. :banghead:

Jeffery Feiger ( spelling) is the same way in court .... I love it! I just adore smug, condescending, sarcasm and arrogant in a courtroom


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[Confusion]

This was from the AZ court pages we were invited to sleuth by AZgrandma. I don't have the link because you all told us not to talk about it, but I'm sure I could find it again if I had to.

I read those same records and didn't see a pattern of him initiating much of anything. There were a couple asking for visitation, which I don't think is unreasonable, a couple/few satisfying judgments for CS, and typical things dealing with CS, garnishment, job information that was requested, etc. (I'm not discussing any of the issues she initiated or responded to, only him). I will look for the link too.

ETA: http://www.superiorcourt.maricopa.gov/docket/FamilyCourtCases/caseInfo.asp?caseNumber=DR1995-017330

 

[katydid23]

So, if he didn't try to pursue visitation, he would also be a bad person? He is being called selfish because he wanted to see his son on TG? That makes no sense to me and I think that is very unfair to say.
For all we know, this may have been the only time MR had off work. Either way, we don't know and don't have the right to throw judgements around like this. MOO! :twocents:

OT: You must be more than ready for your wee one to arrive. Are you getting any closer contractions or are you going to have to wait and be induced?

:baby: :baby: :baby: :baby: :baby:

ETA: oops. I just read your reply. Hang in there, she will make her entrance soon enough. :heartbeat:

 

[NC Analyzer]

Jeffery Feiger ( spelling) is the same way in court .... I love it! I just adore smug, condescending, sarcasm and arrogant in a courtroom


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I love Feiger! Don't even compare him to Nancy <modsnip>
Actually, it is a requirement for attorneys to be smug, condescending and arrogant, lol. They teach a class on how to do that well. :floorlaugh:

 

[mijamawi]

I do not believe he did the previous three years.




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But there's nothing linked that says this?

 

[Amster]

Jeffery Feiger ( spelling) is the same way in court .... I love it! I just adore smug, condescending, sarcasm and arrogant in a courtroom


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Then you must have ADORED Baez....

 

[NC Analyzer]

I read those same records and didn't see a pattern of him initiating much of anything. There were a couple asking for visitation, which I don't think is unreasonable, a couple/few satisfying judgments for CS, and typical things dealing with CS, garnishment, job information that was requested, etc. (I'm not discussing any of the issues she initiated or responded to, only him). I will look for the link too.

There were at least 50 petitions.
I've been divorced twice. 5 Children involved. Had another child; no marriage, but many complicated child support issues. I haven't even been to court 20 times in the past 30 years with all of that. And NO, we weren't particularly agreeable people. So considering we only got a partial look at AZgrandma's case with MR, (after she moved to AZ), I would have to say the number alone blew me away.

 

[Linda7NJ]

But there's nothing linked that says this?

Dunno if its linked or not. It's an inference I drew based on the information available.

I believe it to be so,


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[Linda7NJ]

Then you must have ADORED Baez....

Nope, I adored Jeff!


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[mck16]

Selected comments from this thread have been cut and pasted onto the other fb page - unreferenced of course. Some as recently as 2 hours ago.
I'd be ticked off if my words were being used by others to further an agenda (which in this case is never going to happen as my words don't fit/support that particular agenda). IMO people choose to post in a forum like WS so they can discuss cases with like minded, caring people - we definitely do not all agree with each other, but this forum is how we choose to express and share our ideas and opinions. If we wanted to share them on facebook we would each be doing that of our own accord.
I respectfully ask our members and visitors to keep WS posts here where they can be discussed, agreed with, refuted, expanded upon, etc. - as the original poster intended.
JMO :moo:

I posted last night that I noticed a definite similarity to posts on that site and on WS. Didn't know which came first. I thought maybe someone read over there and then posted here. I wish WS would find out who it is. jmo