CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #26

[PaulR]

Well he is not exactly helping himself here . I do not compare there reactions the same here as one is not linked to Dylan's disappearance at all.

All i can see is one parent doing all they can to bring there son home and the other one with all the info on Dylan's last night who is not reaching out to bring his son home and ignoring his family .

MR is working with law enforcement, and he has given interviews like the video that was posted and articles which quoted him, especially right after DR disappeared. For all we know he has tried to contact the media again but been rebuffed - even ER is frustrated that she's not getting as much attention for Dylan from mainstream media as she did before, and we know it's not for lack of trying.

Can someone cite a single MSM article that states that MR "refused to comment" or something along those lines? If not, then we should drop this speculation.

 

[asyousay]

BBM - I guess this is true if your compassion is only for one person. MR is Dylan's dad. Something happened to Dylan on MR's watch. If he is innocent - that's a lot of guilt to carry around, a lot of pain, a lot of worry and a lot of stress. To top it off, your ex is in the media blaming you. Certainly wouldn't make him feel any better. Why would he want to talk to her? Why? That makes no sense to me and shows a total lack of compassion on ER's part, to my mind.

I have compassion for ER, but I also have some for MR, which I will throw out the window if he is guilty. But for now, it doesn't appear that there is any evidence against him, except some circumstantial stuff and, for now, it is just not strong enough to knock me off the fence.

Salem

Because its not about him , its about Dylan and if he can ease Cory's & Elaine s pain by answering questions about Sunday and Monday then i find it wrong he wont. It is no wonder he is not close to any of his children when he is totally about "him" ! MOO

And i dont blame Elaine for lashing out as he is ignoring them and his "version of events" has holes in it.

So what is Elaine meant to think when he wont speak to them and the his story makes no logical sense ? !

This it seems comes to down to making Elaine suffer IMO

 

[Seajay]

The silence from Mark continues

As long as he's talking to LE, that's all he needs to do. Mark isn't talking, not to anyone, so he's also not bad-mouthing Elaine in the press. They both just need to concentrate on Dylan and stop the public pot shots.

I don't see how that is going to bring Dylan home. JMO

 

[Deleted member 39678]

As long as he's talking to LE, that's all he needs to do. Mark isn't talking, not to anyone, so he's also not bad-mouthing Elaine in the press. They both just need to concentrate on Dylan and stop the public pot shots.

I don't see how that is going to bring Dylan home. JMO

I agree. What matters most is cooperation with LE. If Mark is doing that, the lack of communication with his ex wife is just a side show to me.

 

[PaulR]

This it seems comes to down to making Elaine suffer IMO

If someone publicly accused me of murder and spread false information about my polygraph results on national TV, I would not want to talk to them either.

Frankly Mark is handling it a lot better than I would have. He's publicly forgiven her.

 

[Seajay]

I agree. What matters most is cooperation with LE. If Mark is doing that, the lack of communication with his ex wife is just a side show to me.

I'm sure if she has any questions about what Mark told them, LE will be more than happy to answer them. I'm sure they asked him all the pertinent questions. Otherwise, what does she need to know???

 

[marlywings]

I agree. What matters most is cooperation with LE. If Mark is doing that, the lack of communication with his ex wife is just a side show to me.

Well he's certainly co-operating with LE....if he wasn't, I think it would be a whole different story.

January 05, 2013

The Sheriff’s Office also said that family members continue to cooperate with investigators

http://durangoherald.com/article/20.../rss/Search-for-missing-Dylan-Redwine-goes-on

 

[Seajay]

If someone publicly accused me of murder and spread false information about my polygraph results on national TV, I would not want to talk to them either.

Frankly Mark is handling it a lot better than I would have. He's publicly forgiven her.

See, I don't understand something. Apparently it's getting harder and harder to get media attention for finding Dylan. So why when they finally get someone to give them print space isn't the focus on Dylan? Why is it still about whether or not Mark is talking to his ex??? I mean if getting coverage is so precious, why is it being wasted on Mark rather than Dylan??? I don't get it.

 

[MissJ]

Sorry but I think he has a responsibility to the mother of his child, to explain what happened that night. They share this child. LE is supposed to explain to ER what MR said?
We are talking about adults here.

 

[Seajay]

Sorry but I think he has a responsibility to the mother of his child, to explain what happened that night. They share this child. LE is supposed to explain to ER what MR said?
We are talking about adults here.

But then doesn't that go both ways??? So he has a responsibility to her as the mother of his child but she has not to him as the father of her child??? It's neither or both, not one or the other, IMO.

 

[MissJ]

But then doesn't that go both ways??? So he has a responsibility to her as the mother of his child but she has not to him as the father of her child??? It's neither or both, not one or the other, IMO.

She IS talking and doing everything she can. What else can she do? What answers does she need to provide him? He had DR in his physical custody.

 

[SouthAussie]

He's still not wearing a shirt :what:

Sorry to butt in here .... but Cheese, you make me laugh so much with your no shirt comments.

:floorlaugh:

(If there wasn't such a time difference between us, I'd be commenting at a more appropriate time .... my apologies)

 

[JustJeannie]

I think the best thing to do is just bombard them. Send them direct messages, reply to all of their tweets with a tweet about Dylan, asking for a re-tweet.

Maybe focus on getting celebrities who are from Colorado or have a connection (sports stars) to tweet about Dylan?

You can only send a direct message to someone who is following you, which is why most celebrities don't follow many (if any) fans. They would be bombarded all the time with requests for things in their inboxes.

But your second suggestion would be the best way to go about it, I think. Focus on someone with a Colorado connection, and sports stars from teams Dylan likes. Also maybe try for some of the not as popular celebrities, who are more likely to see their tweets and requests for retweets.

The other thing they could try would be to attempt to get his name trending. That would require them to plan in advance a specific time, when all those trying to find him would start tweeting at the same time, using a specific hashtag like #findDylanRedwine, and continuing to tweet about it for a length of time. Their computers look for things that are suddenly being talked about to calculate what is trending. They could include links to his missing poster in their some of their tweets. But they'd need someone familiar with how twitter works, because there are specific things you can and can't do to get things trending... for example, if you tweet the same exact tweet over and over, it will only count once. You have to change up your tweets at least a little every time you tweet. Also retweets don't count in trending, so retweeting someone else won't help. And everyone has to use the same exact hashtag in their tweets, including capitalization, etc. There's more, but it would basically have to be very well planned out.

If they could get it to trend though, it would show up on every single twitter user account's timeline while it was trending.

 

[Wolf Dreamer]

I know little about social media but I have read that Twitter is the future and Facebook will decline. Is that why you believe that Dylan's family should put more emphasis on Twitter?

Heaven help us if Twitter is the future, it's for people with very short attention spans! The problem I have with it is people will retweet stuff - but do they read it? Do they do anything afterwards, or just move onto the next thing?

I believe it can help - but it doesn't have the more permanent nature of Facebook. A page is there til it's taken down.. if you miss a tweet, it's gone. As a user of twitter, the only way I can make it manageable is to stick following people I'm interested in, otherwise you just drown. JMO

 

[JustJeannie]

Heaven help us if Twitter is the future, it's for people with very short attention spans! The problem I have with it is people will retweet stuff - but do they read it? Do they do anything afterwards, or just move onto the next thing?

I believe it can help - but it doesn't have the more permanent nature of Facebook. A page is there til it's taken down.. if you miss a tweet, it's gone. As a user of twitter, the only way I can make it manageable is to stick following people I'm interested in, otherwise you just drown. JMO

I would agree with you for the most part. Things move very quickly on twitter, though tweets aren't "just gone." They exist unless they are deleted by the person who originally tweeted them. You can go to every user's page and see everything they have ever tweeted.

But because it moves fast, you do miss a lot of things unless you take the time to search for them. I don't follow that many people, and I still miss things during the day while I'm at work because it would take too long to scroll back through my timeline when I get home. I use it mostly for casually chatting with friends, and I follow some musicians that I like, because they will tweet about new songs or albums they have coming out, which lets me know to watch for them. (I am a big lover of music, particularly some "indie" bands and singers that don't get a lot of mainstream media attention.)

Twitter is far from perfect, but it is very popular, and if they are serious about working social media, it certainly couldn't hurt to use it as well as Facebook. The more people they reach, the better, and a lot of Twitter users don't use Facebook much anymore. JMO, of course.

 

[Wolf Dreamer]

I honestly just don't even know what to think anymore. I know if I was an outsider looking in (meaning if I hadn't been following this case since day 1) I'd be over it. There is way too much Jerry Springer going on. Reading the Facebook pages is like being in the Twilight Zone. If I hadn't already invested as much time as I have, I'd tune this case out. I don't feel the key players are being 100% truthful. Any of them. It's all a big fight at Dylan's expense. It's a shame. JMO

ETA: ER's flip flopping is worse than any politician. It was just what, a week ago, she said she didn't think MR harmed him, now she does.

This is the kind of stuff that makes someone uninterested.

This is the problem I have had. I come by here now and then looking to see if there's new information but there's been nothing, and the same debate carries on.

I can understand why MR hasn't (and probably won't) speak publicly or to ER. I believe she slammed that door firmly shut by accusing him right off the bat, and no amount of sweet talking will open it. Innocent or guilty, I would not talk to someone I suspect just wants to attack me.

 

[catswhiskers]

I've never understood the need for everyone to know every detail of what MR and Dylan did once they got home in Vallecito. How does it help find Dylan to have a minute by minute account of their Sunday evening broadcast in the media? Trips to the bathroom, what was on tv, snacks eaten, details of private conversations between father and son, who cleaned their teeth first - how is any of that relevant at all? IMO some people just want to dissect his words anyway, and even if MR gave a minute by minute account of their evening from Walmart onwards, those same people wouldn't believe him.

With regard to MR's responses (or lack of) to communications from family and others - I'd reserve judgement until I could see/hear the contents of the messages being sent his way. We are hearing plenty about MR when this topic is raised, but I notice nobody is rushing to reveal or publish the content of the messages they are sending to MR themselves.

Rightly or wrongly, Mr has struck me as the sort of person who would shut himself away from the spotlight - that is just how some handle traumatic events. I've found the amount of fairly baseless spite and venom being directed his way (on fb in particular) to be really disturbing - in my mind that sort of hatefulness speaks volumes more about those people than it does MR.
:moo:

 

[Wolf Dreamer]

I would agree with you for the most part. Things move very quickly on twitter, though tweets aren't "just gone." They exist unless they are deleted by the person who originally tweeted them. You can go to every user's page and see everything they have ever tweeted.

Yes, but if you don't go to people's pages, you don't see it, is what I mean - much easier to find a FB page than a tweet.

I can see it useful in conjunction. I guess perhaps I'm just more cautious - unless you protect your tweets so only subscribers can see them, anything you say on twitter can be seen by anybody and that is not appealing to me in terms of just chatting.

 

[Eileen730]

I believe MR has been told not to talk to anyone! Not LE not ER no one. Just his lawyer.

thats just my take on things.

 

[Cardinal47]

This is the problem I have had. I come by here now and then looking to see if there's new information but there's been nothing, and the same debate carries on.

I can understand why MR hasn't (and probably won't) speak publicly or to ER. I believe she slammed that door firmly shut by accusing him right off the bat, and no amount of sweet talking will open it. Innocent or guilty, I would not talk to someone I suspect just wants to attack me.

I would talk to the devil himself if it helped return my son!