CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #28

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  • #801
All Elaine said was iPod so I don't think we have any idea which one.
 
  • #802
I looked at my cell phone records and mine show phone calls incoming and outgoing with the actual phone number and time stamp along with how long the call was. It shows the texts incoming and out going numbers and the time stamp. This was though virgin mobile. I know when I had Verizon it also showed the same thing. In my opinion based on looking at my records I believe Dylan's last communication from his cell was a little after 8. The other message could have been from either the iPod or maybe the computer was on and he sent something from, there if in fact he made it to MR's or if he didn't make it there then it is a set up to make it look like it was Dylan. JMO, MOO and all that jazz. :)
 
  • #803
The LE verified timeline of Dylan has to end somewhere. Maybe this text is it.


Of course but the way LE have gone about announcing this to me makes it sound mysterious and not purely innocent MOO
 
  • #804
The LE verified timeline of Dylan has to end somewhere. Maybe this text is it.

Agreed. Perhaps LE just want to let everyone know that is the last time that they know of a definite communication from Dylan, and not the 8pm time that has been previously assumed.
 
  • #805
Of course but the way LE have gone about announcing this to me makes it sound mysterious and not purely innocent MOO

It is mysterious because we don't know the content of the text or who it was sent to. I'm not sure what you mean by "the way LE have gone about announcing this"?
 
  • #806
I think there is a lot of confusion around the wireless/wifi subject. Here in Australia (and I assume elsewhere too) most homes have cabled adsl internet connections. You still access the internet via your phone line (but this is not the old dial up) but the kind of router you have enables everybody in the house to connect 'wirelessly' - ie without having to physically plug your devices in with an ethernet cable. When you are in McDonalds, they are allowing you to access their internet this way.

People in more rural areas may not have access to adsl/cabled internet, but probably have the option of true wireless internet which has nothing to do with phone lines and requires a special modem to detect the signal. When I lived out of town I had one of these for many years - and our ability to connect was very dependant on weather conditions. Our wet/stormy summers meant either no reception at all or frequent drop outs and poor signal strength due to cloud coverage.

3G is different again as it involves a sim card and the device is allocated a phone number and requires a plan through your provider. I have a 3G ipad - right now I'm connected to my home adsl wirelessly. When I am out and about I switch on my 3G connection.

All O/T I know, but there seemed to be a fair bit of back and forth about this so I just wanted to throw in my 2 cents worth :)

:moo: of course
 
  • #807
It is mysterious because we don't know the content of the text or who it was sent to. I'm not sure what you mean by "the way LE have gone about announcing this"?


why not just come out and say what device Dylan used to communicate with if it was not his mobile phone ?
 
  • #808
http://www.pinerivertimes.com/

I am trying to figure out if anything changed from the article that was posted yesterday. This has today's date so maybe something did change or was added.
 
  • #809
why not say what device Dylan used to communicate with if it was not his mobile phone ?

The LE timeline leaves a lot to the imagination. What time did Dylan leave the airport? Is the stated times at Walmart and McD's arrival times or departure times?

I don't think that the purpose of the timeline was to give much detail about their investigation, but rather to give the public an idea of Dylan's activity's on the evening of November 18th. MOO.
 
  • #810
The LE timeline leaves a lot to the imagination. What time did Dylan leave the airport? Is the stated times at Walmart and McD's arrival times or departure times?

I don't think that the purpose of the timeline was to give much detail about their investigation, but rather to give the public an idea of Dylan's activity's on the evening of November 18th. MOO.

And perhaps to send a message that while different things have been assumed, LE are the only ones that know certain facts. In other words, to show that they are retaining control of the investigation, and only releasing information that may lead to helpful tips.
 
  • #811
The LE timeline leaves a lot to the imagination. What time did Dylan leave the airport? Is the stated times at Walmart and McD's arrival times or departure times?

I don't think that the purpose of the timeline was to give much detail about their investigation, but rather to give the public an idea of Dylan's activity's on the evening of November 18th. MOO.

Nothing really new except to confirm he was at mcdonald's. BTW is there a mcdonald's in that Walmart? I know that is common here in Texas. jmo
 
  • #812
And remember that LE did not release the content of the texts between R and Dylan. It was R and his family that released them to the media. Had they not done that we would not know the content of those texts either.
 
  • #813
Nothing really new except to confirm he was at mcdonald's. BTW is there a mcdonald's in that Walmart? I know that is common here in Texas. jmo

It was stated several times earlier that there is not a McD's in that Walmart.
 
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Nothing released by police indicates message was not send via cell phone.
The idea that it was send by something else appears to be complete speculation.

Yes, jjenny. It is complete speculation. Speculation based on the knowledge that ER had Dylan's phone records. She has always maintained that all communication by Dylan stopped around 8:00 p.m. To me, my opinion only, this means ER was unaware of the 9:37 text. To me, that means the text didn't show up on the phone bill or the record of calls. I find that stange and it leads me to make an inference that the text was not sent from Dylan's cell.

Just my interpretation. There may be other explanations that other posters will share.

Salem
 
  • #816
If he had texted from his phone at 9:37, wouldn't his Mom have seen that on the bill?
 
  • #817
I've been doing some thinking and if MR is responsible or involved in Dylan's disappearance either he killed Dylan or there was an accident and MR is covering it up. I know many on this thread feel comfortable with the idea that MR may have been heartless enough to kill his son. While I think it's possible, I just find myself struggling to get to that conclusion for some reason.

However, I certainly can imagine MR covering up some kind of accident. MR may have thought if Dylan died bc of an accident on his first night/morning in town, he would be accused of killing him. (Maybe not having the foresight to see that this is what would happen in a "missing" case as well). I don't know why I feel this way... I guess because MR has come off as such a coward throughout the past two months that I can envision him trying to cover this up as a stranger abduction or disappearance rather than own up to a deadly accident happening on his watch. I don't know why, but this feels more likely to me than some pre-meditated killing.

As for what said accident may have been? I certainly don't know. Many things are possible-- did they struggle and Dylan sustained a head injury? Take a fall down the stairs? Play with a gun kept in the home? Die in his sleep? (Sounds ridiculous, but I have known children this has happened to due to an unknown heart condition).

None of this is based in fact, of course. Just my thoughts.

ETA: I guess some also think MR/family hiding a living Dylan is an option. I personally don't think this is at all likely.
 
  • #818
Agreed. Perhaps LE just want to let everyone know that is the last time that they know of a definite communication from Dylan, and not the 8pm time that has been previously assumed.

Well...why not just say so, then...
 
  • #819
I've been doing some thinking and if MR is responsible or involved in Dylan's disappearance either he killed Dylan or there was an accident and MR is covering it up. I know many on this thread feel comfortable with the idea that MR may have been heartless enough to kill his son. While I think it's possible, I just find myself struggling to get to that conclusion for some reason.

However, I certainly can imagine MR covering up some kind of accident. MR may have thought if Dylan died bc of an accident on his first night/morning in town, he would be accused of killing him. (Maybe not having the foresight to see that this is what would happen in a "missing" case as well). I don't know why I feel this way... I guess because MR has come off as such a coward throughout the past two months that I can envision him trying to cover this up as a stranger abduction or disappearance rather than own up to a deadly accident happening on his watch. I don't know why, but this feels more likely to me than some pre-meditated killing.

As for what said accident may have been? I certainly don't know. Many things are possible-- did they struggle and Dylan sustained a head injury? Take a fall down the stairs? Play with a gun kept in the home? Die in his sleep? (Sounds ridiculous, but I have known children this has happened to due to an unknown heart condition).

None of this is based in fact, of course. Just my thoughts.

Seems to be no crime scene at the home on the property. If anything like that happened, I think it must been outside of the truck, someplace yet unknown to LE.
 
  • #820
If Dylan died in the house would that not give off a scent to the search dogs they had in ??
 
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