CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #29

[cluciano63]

It might be wishful thinking on her part. If Dylan is hidden somewhere, then he is alive.

I know, but she seems like an intelligent woman, and lol, I like to imagine I am too and I just can't make it work. Seems she would be screaming for his records, his little black book, etc. if she really thought this was a viable option? I am not saying she would get them, but that is what I would be after, if I really thought MR had a secret friend devoted enough to him to do this.

 

[Seajay]

Do you have links to that. I've never heard that he swore Dylan was in the lake. TIA

I didn't either. He said Dylan's fishing pole was missing and that he was upset that LE hadn't searched the lake area earlier. He never swore he was in the lake, that's how misinformation and rumors get started.

 

[jjenny]

I know, but she seems like an intelligent woman, and lol, I like to imagine I am too and I just can't make it work. Seems she would be screaming for his records, his little black book, etc. if she really thought this was a viable option? I am not saying she would get them, but that is what I would be after, if I really thought MR had a secret friend devoted enough to him to do this.

They (ER and CR) certainly appear to be trying to talk to MR.

 

[TxJan1971]

OT, but I am wondering if anyone who has since been proven guilty ever willingly went on NG to undergo that style of interviewing. Seems like something one might only do out of true desperation, IMO. Can anyone think of a person?

Did Scott Peterson ever go on NG ??? Can't remember...

 

[jjenny]

Did Scott Peterson ever go on NG ??? Can't remember...

I don't think he ever went on NG. But he certainly did give interviews to the press.

 

[Dee10]

Good question! Off hand no... But I cracked up when I lst read your question, because I immediately thought of Nancy's favorite Boy Scout, Ronald as she liked to call him, Cummings. I always debated with people that Nancy was so nice to him ONLY to get him back on the show and back he would come lol. I have had the fortunate & unfortunate experience for years, but I would have to do some kind of search for that one lol.

Mark has seemingly only done a couple of interviews the same week the FBI hit town, then recently with the rally. ER has done NG twice, no doubt MR was given an invite too. Apparently he passed on that one! :floorlaugh:

 

[mck16]

I think we all should go back to the beginning. Gather the facts and go forward. I believe so much has been misconstrued from mixed up posts not really dealing in facts. So much has been misreported and elicited posts not based on facts but misinterpretation.

We have all asked for MR to give us an interview and now that we have it the predicted tearing it apart has happened. Analyzing his very words. No wonder he has not done it before and I doubt he will do it again. I can't help but feel both these parents are in pain and I don't think constant berating of MR is helping the situation. I have no idea what happened to Dylan but I know that until and when ever these people are left to their own feelings and honestly know that they are free to talk to grieve to do whatever without every word being torn apart, analyzed and put our own personal interpretation they cannot find any peace or solace. I really think they just need to be left alone. I don't see anything we are doing is helping this situation. It has truly turned into a place where we just argue. I for one am tired of coming here and seeing nothing but negative posts. But what else have we got. However, this is not about me it is about a family who has lost their child and it just breaks my heart that we, I, cannot help them. jmo

 

[cluciano63]

Did Scott Peterson ever go on NG ??? Can't remember...

No...just clips of him were shown.

 

[cluciano63]

I think we all should go back to the beginning. Gather the facts and go forward. I believe so much has been misconstrued from mixed up posts not really dealing in facts. So much has been misreported and elicited posts not based on facts but misinterpretation.

We have all asked for MR to give us an interview and now that we have it the predicted tearing it apart has happened. Analyzing his very words. No wonder he has not done it before and I doubt he will do it again. I can't help but feel both these parents are in pain and I don't think constant berating of MR is helping the situation. I have no idea what happened to Dylan but I know that until and when ever these people are left to their own feelings and honestly know that they are free to talk to grieve to do whatever without every word being torn apart, analyzed and put our own personal interpretation they cannot find any peace or solace. I really think they just need to be left alone. I don't see anything we are doing is helping this situation. It has truly turned into a place where we just argue. I for one am tired of coming here and seeing nothing but negative posts. But what else have we got. However, this is not about me it is about a family who has lost their child and it just breaks my heart that we, I, cannot help them. jmo

The only way we can feasibly help is if by chance he IS out there alive, available to be spotted by someone familiar with his face, but that seems almost impossible to me. I guess some might say continued pressure could help, if someone close to Dylan is guilty, rather than letting it go quiet. I don't think people are able to let a missing child case just drop off the radar.

 

[Dee10]

I think we all should go back to the beginning. Gather the facts and go forward. I believe so much has been misconstrued from mixed up posts not really dealing in facts. So much has been misreported and elicited posts not based on facts but misinterpretation.

We have all asked for MR to give us an interview and now that we have it the predicted tearing it apart has happened. Analyzing his very words. No wonder he has not done it before and I doubt he will do it again. I can't help but feel both these parents are in pain and I don't think constant berating of MR is helping the situation. I have no idea what happened to Dylan but I know that until and when ever these people are left to their own feelings and honestly know that they are free to talk to grieve to do whatever without every word being torn apart, analyzed and put our own personal interpretation they cannot find any peace or solace. I really think they just need to be left alone. I don't see anything we are doing is helping this situation. It has truly turned into a place where we just argue. I for one am tired of coming here and seeing nothing but negative posts. But what else have we got. However, this is not about me it is about a family who has lost their child and it just breaks my heart that we, I, cannot help them. jmo

With all due respect everyone is going to analyze his words as everyone did with his silence. He as LE have stated he was the last person identified to see or be with Dylan. That raises questions with LE & the public. Dylan comes first!

 

[mck16]

The only way we can feasibly help is if by chance he IS out there alive, available to be spotted by someone familiar with his face, but that seems almost impossible to me. I guess some might say continued pressure could help, if someone close to Dylan is guilty, rather than letting it go quiet. I don't think people are able to let a missing child case just drop off the radar.

Wouldn't that be a miracle? I pray that for all the missing. But, to let a mother or father think that after all this time, that could be. I wish it was so, but not so sure anymore. I don't think mom has him and I do not think dad does either. So what does that leave us with? I am just tired of all the disagreeing. I don't think anyone would ever stop the search but with all the dissention in this case how can they come together and do anything productive? jmo

 

[cluciano63]

If MR had been speaking out in a natural kind of way about Dylan, i.e. (IMO) frantic, distressed, desperate) all along, then the scrutiny would be far less I think. As I have said before, HE and only he, knows for sure if he is telling the truth. If he is, then his son is either in great danger, or deceased. And I am not getting that from him.

 

[cluciano63]

Wouldn't that be a miracle? I pray that for all the missing. But, to let a mother or father think that after all this time, that could be. I wish it was so, but not so sure anymore. I don't think mom has him and I do not think dad does either. So what does that leave us with? I am just tired of all the disagreeing. I don't think anyone would ever stop the search but with all the dissention in this case how can they come together and do anything productive? jmo

I fear ER is past believing MR, unless he will agree to sit down and take another polygraph, as their family seems to be under the impression that he is unwilling to take another one. If this is true, it probably does seem beyond comprehension that he will not do this thing and get it behind him. I can see how if she has this fixed in her mind as a stumbling block, she can't let it go. Not saying it is right, or even constructive, but I can't say for sure I would not feel the same way. I think I would be astounded, if I were a mother, to be under the impression the father of my child refuses to take a second polygraph if there were issues with the first. That would be in my brain all the time.

 

[mck16]

With all due respect everyone is going to analyze his words as everyone did with his silence. He as LE have stated he was the last person identified to see or be with Dylan. That raises questions with LE & the public. Dylan comes first!

I agree with you. But, analyzing all he says and tearing it apart just confirms what he says about not speaking and why he hasn't done it. jmo

 

[Confusion]

If MR had been speaking out in a natural kind of way about Dylan, i.e. (IMO) frantic, distressed, desperate) all along, then the scrutiny would be far less I think. As I have said before, HE and only he, knows for sure if he is telling the truth. If he is, then his son is either in great danger, or deceased. And I am not getting that from him.

I only hope my guilt/innocence is never judged by how frantic, distressed and desperate I am. I personally don't know many people who would come across that way in front of television cameras. Some would be too concerned about how they looked, not wanting mascara to run, lipstick to smear, etc., some wouldn't want to appear weak by showing tears in public, and some are just doers more than feelers, and would just be there to get word out. I'd be one that wouldn't be seen or heard from on tv or videos. I hate cameras, and I don't even like leaving voice message. I'd never knowingly be in front of a camera or have my conversation recorded if there was any way at all to avoid it. MOO

 

[cluciano63]

I only hope my guilt/innocence is never judged by how frantic, distressed and desperate I am. I personally don't know many people who would come across that way in front of television cameras. Some would be too concerned about how they looked, not wanting mascara to run, lipstick to smear, etc., some wouldn't want to appear weak by showing tears in public, and some are just doers more than feelers, and would just be there to get word out. I'd be one that wouldn't be seen or heard from on tv or videos. I hate cameras, and I don't even like leaving voice message. I'd never knowingly be in front of a camera or have my conversation recorded if there was any way at all to avoid it. MOO[/QUOTE

I agree, I would hate it too. But I do think I would be addressing my child directly and almost ignoring the reporter. Probably would come off more like a crazy person, but it would be all about emotion and just wanting my child to see me, if possible and know I was looking for him or her. That, we have not really seen from MR. And again, this is just one person's opinion.

 

[mck16]

I only hope my guilt/innocence is never judged by how frantic, distressed and desperate I am. I personally don't know many people who would come across that way in front of television cameras. Some would be too concerned about how they looked, not wanting mascara to run, lipstick to smear, etc., some wouldn't want to appear weak by showing tears in public, and some are just doers more than feelers, and would just be there to get word out. I'd be one that wouldn't be seen or heard from on tv or videos. I hate cameras, and I don't even like leaving voice message. I'd never knowingly be in front of a camera or have my conversation recorded if there was any way at all to avoid it. MOO

And to go on camera and make a video interview and the comments are 'his eyes are glassy'. That really makes me sick. My impression was that he looked like he had been crying. Oh well, what matter. We see what we want to see. jmo

 

[Darcyline]

I personally don't think there is a "natural" way to react to a child missing. I have seen people who murdered their children in cold blood act frantic, desperate, and sad. I have seen 100% innocent parents seem cold and non-emotional. You just have no idea how you will act in the situation. We have had parents on here who have had children go missing talk about how it is a strange situation and you never act exactly like you think you will.
I realize that MR is the only suspect for many, but I do hope some of the generalizations being said about him aren't transferred to other cases to judge other parents who may not "act" like we think they should in front of the camera.

 

[TxJan1971]

I truly understand how you feel, mck.

FWIW, I had recently submitted a suggestion in what I felt would be an attempt to try to alleviate some of the same things that you point out that I was seeing. Unfortunately, my suggestion was unable to be implemented, and it was reiterated that because this is a Discussion Forum, ALL opinions are welcome and that we have the option to utilize an Ignore Button or scroll and roll. If a post is offensive and against TOS, we are instructed to “alert a mod” to avoid getting into the arguing that we see take place.

So basically, we are our own worst enemies since we’re not following the guidelines.

Members are allowed to post their opinions within TOS. If a mod finds a post offensive, the mod will delete and/or issue TO’s for those that ignore TOS.

I am learning that sometimes rather than letting a post get to me, I find it's the perfect time to get up and make myself a cuppa or go bug my DH instead of getting involved and adding more fuel to the fire by arguing my point.

Just thought I’d share…

((((( HUGS TO ALL ))))))

 

[cluciano63]

I personally don't think there is a "natural" way to react to a child missing. I have seen people who murdered their children in cold blood act frantic, desperate, and sad. I have seen 100% innocent parents seem cold and non-emotional. You just have no idea how you will act in the situation. We have had parents on here who have had children go missing talk about how it is a strange situation and you never act exactly like you think you will.
I realize that MR is the only suspect for many, but I do hope some of the generalizations being said about him aren't transferred to other cases to judge other parents who may not "act" like we think they should in front of the camera.

I do agree...everyone is different. I guess I look to Ed Smart often, as someone who persisted, despite all of the suspicion and even hideous comments about his religion, etc...he knew he was innocent and forged ahead for Elizabeth, somehow tuning out everything else and taking every opportunity to be on camera. Also the father of Brianna Rodriguez, who admitted on TV that he failed a LD test, but that since he knew he did not murder her, he didn't care who knew it or what they thought about him. He too persisted, and was he innocent. And Amber DuBois' stepdad...he went through as many as eight LD tests and lived under suspicion until JG confessed, but he did not shy away. There are examples of how innocent parents have dealt with the issue, in different ways, but as persistent as possible, as ER seems to be doing, even if she is focused on MR. I think that may be for reasons of her sanity, personally. If she convinces herself MR is guilty, then she convinces herself Dylan could be alive.