CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #30

[jjenny]

Maybe they don't think a second one is necessary because they have been able to verify everything he has told them....?

Somehow I doubt that. Or Bender wouldn't be saying that one possibility is that something happened to Dylan while he was at the house.

 

[jjenny]

I've always assumed that polygraphs were about whether or not a person was showing signs of deception. What does inconclusive mean? That the test subject showed only a small amount of deception? Was any deception shown only about insignificant issues?

I presume that means they can't tell whether the person is honest or not.

 

[cluciano63]

Maybe they don't think a second one is necessary because they have been able to verify everything he has told them....?

How could LE ever verify the type of questions asked on a LD test? Such as did you harm Dylan, do you know where he is, etc.? Those are generally the type of questions I have seen asked in such cases.

 

[Eileen730]

yah, part of me thought that she's proved herself in this area already and so she was more creative with her response, adding more meaning to it ("I wish I had because if I had done anything, he'd be here, and I feel bad for whomever has done something to him"), but objectively, it is evasive and looks really bad.

No, I meant the lst one (sorry I wasn't clear) maybe he did pass. I can't believe they wouldn't ask for another one if it was really inconclusive. I agree about the reporter too, who knows. I think I will wade back & see what ER said again to NG...:what:

If you FAIL it do you take another?

 

[Flutterflies]

Not the retired LE (shirtless) guy.

This guy posted about 8 hours ago. Initials M.O.

https://www.facebook.com/FindMissingDylanRedwine?filter=2

PI MR has asked to help find his son
he will work with any family or friends
does not care about personal issues
focus to find Dylan

This sounds good. I wish him success. Thanks for bringing this to our attention.
I notice new psychics posting their info on that page frequently..

 

[SCHMAE]

Wish I did...

I'll tell you my take on that and smooth can correct me if I'm wrong.
ER looks like shes' hiding something because LE has possibly told her
something a real interesting tidbit about MR , perhaps and swore her
to secrecy to not say anything about it until the time is right. So
if that's the case, it might explain some of the strangeness of her
answers !

Moooooooooo , more cowbell !

 

[Dee10]

From NG (the relevant part) :floorlaugh:

GRACE: Elaine, when you were speaking earlier to our producers, you mentioned it was your understanding that he had failed a polygraph.

REDWINE: No, I didn`t say he had failed the polygraph.

GRACE: OK. Good. I`m glad you can clarify that. So what is your understanding, then?

REDWINE: I think it was inconclusive.

GRACE: Is he being asked to take another?

REDWINE: I believe so, yes, he is.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1212/03/ng.01.html

 

[SCHMAE]

FMDR says the family will be using the rescue group who offered help ! That's swell if so !

http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S2916543.shtml?cat=500

 

[Babbi-Dan]

Somehow I doubt that. Or Bender wouldn't be saying that one possibility is that something happened to Dylan while he was at the house.

Something happening to Dylan "while he was at the house" could simply mean a stranger/unknown person is suspected of being involved. I don't think it necessarily refers only to MR being responsible.

I think of the guy that abducted Shawn Hornbeck and Ben Ownby. Both boys were outside without parents. The guy drove up in his truck, stopped, pointed a gun at the boys and told them to get in. They complied. No evidence. No clues. Just like this case. Dylan would just have to be outside the house for something like this to happen.

Also, could be that someone looking to rob a house drove by and noticed MR's vehicle gone and thought they'd rob the place but instead found Dylan inside. I would think there would be a struggle of some sort in that case though.

Sounds like Dylan packed his stuff to go to his friends house for the day, either before or after eating his breakfast. Does anyone know if MR kept his doors locked? Some people that live in these remote places still don't lock their doors as common practice.

 

[fedfan4life]

I agree that he could have done that. I think that this case is full of "what if's", "maybe's" and "it's possible" but there's less in the way of hard facts. MOO.

Of course, because the father and child WERE ALONE, and the former cannot be located to corroborate the assertions of the latter. There are ways for an individual to be harmed, and there not be discernible physical evidence.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

I presume that means they can't tell whether the person is honest or not.

So inconclusive means that the examiner can't tell whether the test subject is being honest or not. It's not about any particular deceptive answer that the person may have provided.

 

[jjenny]

They had evidence and clues in Shawn Hornbeck and Ben Ownby case. Especially in Ben Ownby's. There was a witness who was able to describe the truck in the detail. That's how they found the both of them. And in Shawn Hornbeck's case, they always knew it was an abduction. They just weren't able to figure it out.

 

[Babbi-Dan]

They had evidence and clues in Shawn Hornbeck and Ben Ownby case. Especially in Ben Ownby's. There was a witness who was able to describe the truck in the detail. That's how they found the both of them.

Yes, but not with Shawn Hornbeck. Without the witness to the white truck, Ben would have just vanished into thin air too.

 

[katydid23]

I am still hung up on why R told Dylan to knock to wake him up and ALSO to call him. Still doesn't make sense to me. Also, why didn't R send a couple of text messages to Dylan when Dylan didn't show up at 6:30? I mean, even I will text someone every 10-15 minutes if they don't show up, figuring for some reason they didn't receive my first text. These just don't add up for me.

The two points I bolded above make sense to you and I. But maybe not to 13 yr olds.

My Daughter used to have me drop her off at her best friends house, and she always called her friend moments before we arrived, even though she was still going to knock on the door. Who knows why, exactly, but she did that whenever I took her to a friends house.

I think the reason Dylan said that was because he didn't want the grandma to be woken up at 6:30. So he wanted to make sure RN would be there and be awake when Dylan arrived.

The same general idea with the second statement, in terms of 13 yr olds thinking differently than us. When we would be waiting on a friend to show up, I would be telling my kid to keep texting or calling to see where the friend was. But she would say ' chill out, I already texted them, whatever...'

 

[jjenny]

Yes, but not with Shawn Hornbeck. Without the witness to the white truck, Ben would have just vanished into thin air too.

They had evidence in Hornbeck case. He even contacted his own mother eventually via the internet, using the name of Shawn Devlin. His mother did not realize it was him. They were not able to follow the clues.

 

[Dixie811]

I'll tell you my take on that and smooth can correct me if I'm wrong.
ER looks like shes' hiding something because LE has possibly told her
something a real interesting tidbit about MR , perhaps and swore her
to secrecy to not say anything about it until the time is right. So
if that's the case, it might explain some of the strangeness of her
answers !

Moooooooooo , more cowbell !

Just my own opinion... I agree that there could be another reason for ER's strange behavior besides her being involved in Dylan's disappearance (I don't believe she is). But I personally disagree with the idea that LE could have told her some information that they 'swore her to secrecy' about and that she must hide from the public.

Just my opinion though, thanks for sharing yours =)

 

[Flutterflies]

Somehow I doubt that. Or Bender wouldn't be saying that one possibility is that something happened to Dylan while he was at the house.

It is possible that Dylan walked out of the house, someone saw him, struck up a conversation with him, then they left together. From this point, we do not know what happened to Dylan. If this scenario did happen, wouldn't that be classified as "something happened to Dylan while he was at the house" meaning he was taken from the house? I do not think it necessarily means while at the house, MR did something to DR.
MOO

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

I'm sure RN only told Dylan to call and knock because he didn't want to be asleep and not wake up when he knocked. I just think this confirms that he was looking forward to seeing Dylan. Nothing more...

 

[NC Analyzer]

True, but didn't MR go looking for Dylan? He didn't just ignore it for hours, if I remember correctly. I just think it is unusual behavior for a teenager. Perhaps it's just a Missouri teenage thing to text and text and text and text!

MR returned to the house at 11:30 in the morning. He didn't go looking for Dylan until shortly after 4:00 pm...which is several hours by my count. :seeya:

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Of course, because the father and child WERE ALONE, and the former cannot be located to corroborate the assertions of the latter. There are ways for an individual to be harmed, and there not be discernible physical evidence.

It's possible that someone could have strangled Dylan to death in Mark's home, then removed and disposed of his body somewhere else without leaving any forensic evidence of his death in the house.

Does that mean that Mark is the only one that could have done something like that? In my opinion, the answer is no.