CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #38

[TxJan1971]

If you look at the MSM videos of when they searched MR's house you will see that the area is all hard surface, so any footprints would be highly unlikely. Someone pointed this out before.

Also, on the FMDR fb page, someone claimed that the spoke to a detective and he stated the dogs tracked a scent. I wish we could get LE to state something about this because otherwise I guess it would be considered rumor. IF LE could give clarification, it certainly would help eliminate whether Dylan made it to MR's house that night.

Could you provide the link please? I cannot find that information on the FMDR page. Thanks!

 

[Ghostwheel]

Why?

Is it because ER and her select group said it was not so?

Mickey Shunick disappeared without a trace.
Lisa Pate disappeared without a trace.

A probable serial killer was responsible.

Although I have not recently visited Ali Lowitzer's thread, he is suspected in that one which happens to be Texas and he lived in LA.

BBM: Her bike was found before they caught the guy, so really not without a trace. But I agree that there are far too many people who disappear without a trace.

 

[Allusonz]

And then throw in the fact they had to fly out there so most friends would not even be able to make the trip as its not exactly around the corner !!

This works both ways for Elaine as well .



MOo

Yet they had supporters there, according to what the FMDR stated.

 

[asyousay]

The videos I saw did not show all hard surface, though, and I could not tell if there had previously been any snow. There was gravel, dirt and grass. Each of those will show evidence of specific shoe sizes having walked on them. I realize that was 10 days later, but if Dylan had walked down that road, unless he was walking IN the road only, he'd have crushed grass as he walked. This is basic tracking, so IMO LE isn't saying something or the area had been totally messed up.

And for Elaine it was not 10 days later as she has said that night she got in she knocked on houses and walked up and down that road to check for foot prints as he had a distinctive tread . So the foot prints would of been visable the next morning if Dylan had set out on foot ... Moo

 

[Allusonz]

Her bike was found before they caught the guy, so really not without a trace. But I agree that there are far too many people who disappear without a trace.

They would never of caught Brandon Lavergne if it was not for the fact that the brother-in-law was suspicious of him.

Even after calling LE 2 times it took a woman at the car dealership to note that he had whited out his RSO status.

Brandon Lavergne even went to the hospital in NO, saw 2 different LE agencies and none notified his probation officer.

In fact, he had surgery due to one of the knife wounds prior to seeing his probation officer 9 days later.

Forget the fact that he had reported his vehicle stolen, when in fact he torched it himself, and his own bio sister knew it and drove and picked him up.

He never even informed his probation officer of a change in vehicle.

 

[asyousay]

Yet they had supporters there, according to what the FMDR stated.

Have you got a link as finding anything on that page is a nightmare on my phone? .

Thank you

 

[Allusonz]

I say Mark because this would be assailant has managed to make Mark look guilty in his sons disappearance .

I don't think anybody who met Dylan in Colorado Springs would make the journey to kidnapp him at Mark's house , why would you do that ?

This is all IMO

The only people I see pointing the finger, and in fact stating information we know is inaccurate is from ER and her group.

It is not comming from LE.

 

[Allusonz]

Have you got a link as finding anything on that page is a nightmare on my phone? .

Thank you

On the FMDR site.

https://www.facebook.com/FindMissingDylanRedwine

 

[KateNY]

ER is stating inaccurate information......??

 

[BeginnersLuck]

The videos I saw did not show all hard surface, though, and I could not tell if there had previously been any snow. There was gravel, dirt and grass. Each of those will show evidence of specific shoe sizes having walked on them. I realize that was 10 days later, but if Dylan had walked down that road, unless he was walking IN the road only, he'd have crushed grass as he walked. This is basic tracking, so IMO LE isn't saying something or the area had been totally messed up.

Ransom had mentioned the surface area and he/she was there helping to search for Dylan. Ransom also has ties to the area and I trust those statements.

I just think ER of course was looking for anything at all to give her some direction to go on. I guess I'm just stating that I am not surprised that there wouldn't be any visible footprints. The SAR dogs are the best hope you can have and any video or witnesses that may have caught something.

 

[cluciano63]

Why?

Is it because ER and her select group said it was not so?

Mickey Shunick disappeared without a trace.
Lisa Pate disappeared without a trace.

A probable serial killer was responsible.

Although I have not recently visited Ali Lowitzer's thread, he is suspected in that one which happens to be Texas and he lived in LA.

I try not to compare cases, but I always thought Mickey was the victim of an abduction.

A number of things had to happen, IMO, for Dylan to be in the path of an an abductor (and no one else, apparently). He did not take his ride as planned, then he did not use his phone or any other method of contact, apparently. He did not live in that house and was not there often. As far as I know, this trip was not planned long in advance and he does not seem to have been seen upon arrival at the house by anyone at all. When a child is on a visit to a non-custodial parent, they probably are not often alone. So there is no reason to think anyone with aspirations to take him could expect to find him so vulnerable, IMO. If indeed he was awake long enough to take cereal and watch TV, I find it very hard to believe he would not have made efforts to contact his friend, or his mother who would probably have the phone numbers of his friends. He did not leave a note saying he had decided to go on to Bayfield and not wait for his ride.

For him to gather up his things, on a Monday morning, and not be seen by a soul but apparently walk straight into the arms of a predator just involves a lot of circumstances for me. As far as Mickey goes, nothing good happens at 2am as they say.

I do not say it is impossible, just that it ranks behind every other scenario for me at this time.

 

[asyousay]

The only people I see pointing the finger, and in fact stating information we know is inaccurate is from ER and her group.

It is not comming from LE.

Where has ER stated inaccurate info ?

I would love to see this as I had no idea !

 

[Ghostwheel]

They would never of caught Brandon Lavergne if it was not for the fact that the brother-in-law was not suspicious of him.

Even after calling LE 2 times it took a woman at the car dealership to note that he had whited out his RSO status.

Brandon Lavergne even went to the hospital in NO, saw 2 different LE agencies and none notified his probation officer.

In fact, he had surgery due to one of the knofe wounds prior to seeing his probation officer 9 days later.

Forget the fact that he had reported his vehicle stolen, when in fact he torched it himself, and his own bio sister knew it and drove and picked him up.

He never even informed his probation officer of a change in vehicle.

BBM: I'm not sure I buy that he would never have been caught. The idiot burned his own truck (then reported it "stolen") that was on the surveillance footage at the same time and area as Mickey. Why not just send up a flare that says "Look at ME!" But, yeah, got to love that no one reported the knife wounds.

 

[BeginnersLuck]

Could you provide the link please? I cannot find that information on the FMDR page. Thanks!

I edited my post, I was wrong, it was not on the FMDR page it is on the Prayer Vigil For Dylan Redwine and his family event page. I had the location wrong. I don't know if I can provide a link to it due to TOS.

 

[Allusonz]

http://whitemountainsar.org/node/2

Please read. ^^^^^
ETA: and here: http://www.dps.nm.org/index.php/search-rescue/search-rescue/
Please read ^^^

Interesting!

Thanks Ransom.

 

[Ransom]

And for Elaine it was not 10 days later as she has said that night she got in she knocked on houses and walked up and down that road to check for foot prints as he had a distinctive tread . So the foot prints would of been visable the next morning if Dylan had set out on foot ... Moo

Uhhhh. Maybe you misunderstood. The NIGHT ER got there (around midnight from C. Springs) ... LE and LPSAR were out looking with bloodhounds up and down CR 500 Monday night and into Tuesday.
http://www.laplatasar.org/www/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=21&Itemid=46

ER couldn't have seen any footprints anywhere when she got there after/around midnight. IMO. I cannot believe ER would say such a thing. Sounds like one of her "friends" made something up. IMO.

Here's the video from the search of MR home: Watch. Show me where there is any "dirt/soil/sand" along the PAVED road?

http://www.durangoherald.com/article/20121129/NEWS01/121129570

I've been there twice/looked there/there is no dirt that would hold a footprint, etc. IMO.

 

[Allusonz]

BBM: I'm not sure I buy that he would never have been caught. The idiot burned his own truck (then reported it "stolen") that was on the surveillance footage at the same time and area as Mickey. Why not just send up a flare that says "Look at ME!" But, yeah, got to love that no one reported the knife wounds.

He used 8 different jurisdictions. LE was working with very little forensics.

Please don't get me into discussion on the DWT :giggle:

 

[cluciano63]

And for Elaine it was not 10 days later as she has said that night she got in she knocked on houses and walked up and down that road to check for foot prints as he had a distinctive tread . So the foot prints would of been visable the next morning if Dylan had set out on foot ... Moo

But did she say she found footprints? I do not recall her saying that.

 

[deoneta]

The only people I see pointing the finger, and in fact stating information we know is inaccurate is from ER and her group.

It is not comming from LE.

This is interesting, too. What inaccurate information has ER stated?

 

[Allusonz]

For some reason I thought there were dogs that came in from NM too? It's been awhile though, so I could totally be getting things confused. I remember the first ones being from the County, but I thought they brought in more?

I had thought so as well as I remember looking on the LaPlata site and did not note any dogs water certified. It seems I was wrong.

Tonight when I looked I now see 2 of them are.

Back to my normal state of confusion.