CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #40

[Psychic Sleuth]

I am super behind but one thing I have been thinking of is when MR said CR didn't k ow where the fishing pole was. That it is moved around (can't remember exect phrase and if I don't type this now I'll forget to later). It was inside by the tv (I think he said) and in the garage. Now who moves a fishing pole around the house when it isn't used for months? IMO MOO.

Now to go look at what exectly was said.

Cory said how would you notice the fishing pole was missing when it was in the garage and MR said well it's not always in the garage, sometimes it's in the living room. (don't quote me but it was close to this)

What a strange thing to keep Dylan's fishing pole in the living room sometimes. Hmmm....

 

[TGIRecovered]

I think something may have happened at the campground. I do think DR was on the couch in the AM, and was not conscious or alive, but I feel like the crime scene may be at the campground.

You may be right, I also considered that he might have been injured but alive that night but dead by morning.

My problem is that there would have been some indication that a dead body had been in the home. A cadaver dog will detect the scent even if the person was removed from the scene soon after death. I think that if there had been any indication of decomp scent in MR's car or home, he would be sitting in a jail cell by now.




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[jjenny]

You may be right, I also considered that he might have been injured but alive that night but dead by morning.

My problem is that there would have been some indication that a dead body had been in the home. A cadaver dog will detect the scent even if the person was removed from the scene soon after death. I think that if there had been any indication of decomp scent in MR's car or home, he would be sitting in a jail cell by now.




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There was reportedly a cadaver dog hit in baby Lisa's home. And nobody is sitting in jail right now.

 

[findDylan]

"MR:
To respond to that, if I may, I attempted to go to T’s house to talk to him but he didn’t answer the door. *I assumed that possibly him and Dylan were at the lake. *You know the fishing pole has never been found…I assumed that maybe that was a possibility. *Do I know for a fact that he had a fishing pole? *Absolutely not…
*
CR:
When you go into your house the fishing pole is in the garage. *You didn’t walk through the garage and into the house before you went into the house...
*
MR:
There’s several places that that fishing pole is… it was either next to the TV
*
CR:
It’s always in the garage. *Then how come that’s the first …you noticed that before his bike? *Before his footprints?"

Fount it.. Thank you sooo much TXJan(and what ever numbers are behind it.

 

[Seek&Find]

That's absolutely false. I have never said it's impossible for Dylan to be in the lake.

My post didn't say you'd said that. . IMO, your posts irt Dylan and the lake give that impression quite strongly, so it's good to see you consider it possible.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

A few things come to mind.

LE might know of a study being conducted.

LE might know that it is a training spot for SAR.

It might even of been from a totally separate accident.

I'm not following you. What kind of study?

Are you saying that the HRD dogs are alerting to training aids that a SAR team left in the lake?

By separate accident do you mean that the HRD dogs may be alerting to decomp scent from a body other than Dylan's?

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

You may be right, I also considered that he might have been injured but alive that night but dead by morning.

My problem is that there would have been some indication that a dead body had been in the home. A cadaver dog will detect the scent even if the person was removed from the scene soon after death. I think that if there had been any indication of decomp scent in MR's car or home, he would be sitting in a jail cell by now.




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To my knowledge no cadaver dogs were taken to the home. They did have scent dogs out there at one time trying to catch Dylan's scent. I have asked many times if cadaver dogs ever searched MR's home and vehicles and have never gotten a definitive answer.

I don't think Dylan ever made it to the house and whatever happened happened outside of the vehicle.

 

[Eileen730]

http://www.ourcoloradonews.com/news...cle_e98ce2fa-8277-11e2-80f5-001a4bcf887a.html


Elaine Redwine just wants her son, Dylan Redwine, home and she hopes that her ex-husband had nothing to do with his disappearance but she said it is possible

 

[Allusonz]

The bottom line, in MY opinion, is if this happened, MR would have taken that lie detector in a heartbeat.

Why? Just because Dr. Phil says he has the best examiner? That this examiner actually trains the FBI?

That means then that the people he has trained must be darn good to my thinking if they are trained by the best. I would even think that the criteria would be set higher to receive credentials or pass the training.

I happen to agree with Dan Bender that they do have some good examiners.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

"MR:
To respond to that, if I may, I attempted to go to T’s house to talk to him but he didn’t answer the door. *I assumed that possibly him and Dylan were at the lake. *You know the fishing pole has never been found…I assumed that maybe that was a possibility. *Do I know for a fact that he had a fishing pole? *Absolutely not…
*
CR:
When you go into your house the fishing pole is in the garage. *You didn’t walk through the garage and into the house before you went into the house...
*
MR:
There’s several places that that fishing pole is… it was either next to the TV
*
CR:
It’s always in the garage. *Then how come that’s the first …you noticed that before his bike? *Before his footprints?"

Fount it.. Thank you sooo much TXJan(and what ever numbers are behind it.

BBM

Why? Why on earth would he move Dylan's fishing pole around to several places and especially odd since Dylan didn't even live there! Did Mark like playing with the fishing poles? Did he do this with all of them or just Dylan's?

He's not even good at it (deceit) and it's pathetic.

 

[SCHMAE]

BBM

I was watching the DP show again last night and what struck me even more than the nap was that MR didn't call Dylan when he got home later that morning.

> MR supposedly was unable to wake his son on Monday morning for a 630 am meeting time with Dylan's friends.
>So he leaves to go run his errands in town for work and the attorney.
>He comes home four hours later and Dylan is gone.
And he doesn't pick up the phone and call Dylan's cell and find out what is going on???? After the morning plans had fallen through I think it would be normal for dad to wonder if the boy's plans had changed for the day and call him and find out when he'd be home, or when he wanted dad to come pick him up. Normal parenting stuff.

If this man is not involved in the disappearance of his son he's certainly one of the most unengaged parents I've ever heard of.

Did he say in previous statements that he tried calling and texting all morning? I cant' remember now if that was rumor or true fact ! Tks

 

[Allusonz]

I'm not following you. What kind of study?

Are you saying that the HRD dogs are alerting to training aids that a SAR team left in the lake?

By separate accident do you mean that the HRD dogs may be alerting to decomp scent from a body other than Dylan's?

Just tossing some alternatives out there.

It would be difficult to study the effects of decomp at 8,000 ft, in water temperatures that cold at body farms I am currently aware of.

All I know is that when I wanted to spread ashes, the paperwork was incredible. The number of agencies that had to be alerted prior, and the permissions received took months.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

Why? Just because Dr. Phil says he has the best examiner? That this examiner actually trains the FBI?

That means then that the people he has trained must be darn good to my thinking if they are trained by the best. I would even think that the criteria would be set higher to receive credentials or pass the training.

I happen to agree with Dan Bender that they do have some good examiners.

BBM

Well MR felt that the reason his LDT was inconclusive or he failed was because the examiner wasn't properly qualified. I wonder how LE felt about that comment?

 

[findDylan]

Yes I can't figure out how they found it's owner either.

On DP Cory did ask MR why he noticed the fishing pole being gone when it's in the garage. MR said it was not always in the garage, sometimes it was in the living room. HUH? Why would he keep Dylan's pole in the living room sometimes? Makes ZERO sense!

Did Dylan take a tackle box too? Lures? Nobody is going to walk that far to fish and not be prepared. Didn't Elaine even say something about Dylan not even knowing how to string a line? Anyone that fishes knows that lines get caught up and break all the time and need to be re-strung and you can't fish without bait or lures and you need other things found in a tackle box. The fishing pole has been an issue for me since the beginning.

I see we were having the same type of thoughts this morning.

 

[Annie1004]

Why would LE have such an incompetent polygrapher?
:floorlaugh:

Budget cuts.:what:

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

Did he say in previous statements that he tried calling and texting all morning? I cant' remember now if that was rumor or true fact ! Tks

I think he said he tried a few times, not all morning.

 

[Allusonz]

BBM

Well MR felt that the reason his LDT was inconclusive or he failed was because the examiner wasn't properly qualified. I wonder how LE felt about that comment?

Maybe he was given 2? By different examiners?

 

[Eileen730]

he says "we" a lot when he's trying to avoid responsibility and spread blame. he could have had someone there (maybe that's why DR's unhappy modicon?) or is just saying "we" b/c something happened on the way home and he's trying to elude responsibility.

Well WE is very different than I.

It places another person with him.

 

[Allusonz]

For as much as I know, Dylan could be alive thus they know Dylan could not possibly be in the lake.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

I don't think LE did have an incompetent polygrapher. Those words came from MR. Ridiculous! And you see that Bender quickly put a stop to that idea. I wonder how much their jaws fell when MR said that?