CO - James Holmes Trial Discussion - Begins April 27, 2015 # 4

[Whiteorchids]

Even when they are on antipsychotics it doesn't take away or stop the voices. It just makes them more tolerable. My son got a injection everyday of invega which is an antipsychotic.

 

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Victor Edgar Nava Hernandez they arrived at 5 for a midnight movie, watched the first film on the laptop while he waited

Victor Edgar Nava Hernandez got into the theater around 8:30

 

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Victor Edgar Nava Hernandez: "We got so excited when the movie started playing. i remember me and sully sitting on the edge of our seats."

 

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Victor Edgar Nava Hernandez: "Like 15 minutes into the movie i saw this flying firecracker.. what appeared to me like a firecracker... and it landed next to one of my friends who was there, Tony."

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Victor Edgar Nava Hernandez: Saw "yellow/reddish" flash from right side of the screen.

 

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Victor Edgar Nava Hernandez: "I just felt, like, little punctures in my left arm. and I recognized the sound and I knew that they were gunshots, but this time they were louder. and so i knew this was the real thing"

Victor Edgar Nava Hernandez: Sully "He landed on my left leg and my friend Christina too

 

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Victor Edgar Nava Hernandez: "I remember not being able to breathe, I had to cover my mouth"

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Victor Edgar Nava Hernandez: About Sully "I didn't know that he had been shot"

Victor Edgar Nava Hernandez: "Christina (Blache) by that point was really hurt. her leg. I remember being able to see her leg was shattered"

 

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Victor Edgar Nava Hernandez: "She asked me if I could use my hands to support the weight of her leg"

 

[LyndyLoo]

I read hies calm now that he's on the proper meds. The meds mellow them out almost to the extent of being lethargic to the severe cases. I can't research it. I'm at work.

Calm is what we see..He is NOT incapacitated nor unable to understand anything..He is following his "Marching Orders" act this way when Jury is in room...then you can act that way when they aren't....I heard JH was on Haldol..which actually is a marvellous medication.....They calm down and are able to answer questions appropriately and follow instructions..completely aware of surroundings and NO They are NOT sedated..But blocked from responding to whatever triggered aberrant behaviours .....

Most patient's I dealt with given this med in ER after being brought in OUT OF CONTROL..calmed down within 20 minutes of injection ( thru clothes @times)....and I was amazed just how cognoscenti they were...

I guess it's an unfair advantage I have had in dealing with OUT of control folks ( 25 years ER)..so, maybe hard for laypeople to understand just where I am coming from...Just take it as insight I guess :moo:

 

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Larry Ryckman ‏@larryryckman · 1m1 minute ago
He remembers it was tough to breathe. Covered mouth and nose with his shirt. "My friend Sully was breathing heavily." #theatershooting

 

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Victor Edgar Nava Hernandez pointing to the model, explaining where things happened

Victor Edgar Nava Hernandez says a cop came and asked if he could walk. Describes walking over bodies

 

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Larry Ryckman ‏@larryryckman · 1m1 minute ago
He fled to main lobby, Police told him and others to line up along the wall, to separate those who had been in Theater 9. #theatershooting

 

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

He exited the theater after cop came. Jumped over seats - lots of bodies around.

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 48s48 seconds ago
#theatershooting authorities separated those in theater 9 from rest of theater. Felt throbbing in R hand on thumb

 

[Maisiebelle]

I know what you are trying to say, he is so smart he should be able to contribute, or should have been. But he lacks motivation, seems to hold resentment against society. It's a shame really, because I am a big believer that with intelligence comes compassion, but in this case it just isn't so.

I wonder if any of the surviving victims have returned to movie theaters? I know we went last Wednesday, and I was nervous, but when we got there it was empty so I relaxed. But as it started to fill up I got more and more nervous. I was trying to figure out if sitting next to an exit made it a more safe choice because you could quickly get out, or if it could be a point of entry for a person with bad intentions.

Isn't it amazing how this attack has affected more than just the people who were there that night?


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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 32s33 seconds ago
#theatershooting wrist, forearm, L elbow had injuries too

 

[Whiteorchids]

Calm is what we see..He is NOT incapacitated nor unable to understand anything..He is following his "Marching Orders" act this way when Jury is in room...then you can act that way when they aren't....I heard JH was on Haldol..which actually is a marvellous medication.....They calm down and are able to answer questions appropriately and follow instructions..completely aware of surroundings and NO They are NOT sedated..But blocked from responding to whatever triggered aberrant behaviours .....

Most patient's I dealt with given this med in ER after being brought in OUT OF CONTROL..calmed down within 20 minutes of injection ( thru clothes @times)....and I was amazed just how cognoscenti they were...

I guess it's an unfair advantage I have had in dealing with OUT of control folks ( 25 years ER)..so, maybe hard for laypeople to understand just where I am coming from...Just take it as insight I guess :moo:

Yes Halidol is one of the older meds but works very good on some. Everyone's side effects are different. Halidol made my son feel too sedated. It's just such a shame he wasn't stabilized on the proper meds before these young people had to die or be injured from this massacre.

 

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Cathy ‏@courtchatter · 53s53 seconds ago
Victor Nava -- counts 161 & 162
GSWs to hand and arm
#theatershooting

 

[LyndyLoo]

Isn't it amazing how this attack has affected more than just the people who were there that night?


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I'll bet the visual of those theatre seats sent a chill down the backs of everyone who saw them... Back in the DAY> Most people like to be near an exit..called ability to exit in case of fire..or get away from the mass exiting after movie..Bet they will re-think that after seeing those seats!!

 

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Victor Edgar Nava Hernandez: Confirms photo of Alex Sullivan

No cross examination for Victor Edgar Nava Hernandez, no jury questions. He is excused.

 

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For the people, Orman calls Sandra Kay Fisher, City of Aurora Police Department Criminalist

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Seems like Orman is working to establish Sandra Fisher's credentials to make her an expert, asking about her published work, membership in orgs