Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #40

[tmar]

Other bodily functions could have been expelled too. Thanks for a closer look at that bag of bedding @whisperOFwings .

This could be the reason the items were found in the trash.
He forgot to take out the trash bin, so the items remained, so LE had access to them, plus the entire house and contents.
These certainly would provide clues, if the family were murdered while in bed.
I wonder if cadaver dogs, could pick up this scent, on the bedding, if that is the case.
If SW was murdered in bed, his theory of her strangling the girls, is thrown out the window.
MOO.

 

[Mrspratcher]

In your opinion maybe, but I've seen no evidence of this being pre-planned IMO.

Guess we’ll have to wait and see, right?

 

[Allabouttrial]

It still strikes me at how super fast the police responded to this, and how quickly the media caught on and it became a big deal. I watch DISAPPEARED a lot and many times people have trouble getting LE to take them seriously at all. Or, if they do, it takes several days. They were basically jumping on this one just hours after someone last saw her, at a time when it could have been possible that she really did just take the kids and go off with some friends. I really want to know what the smoking gun was for them-did NUA confide in them with some info that we don't have yet (I am assuming so), did CW come off even shadier to them than he did to us in his interviews, etc.

Have you seen a case where a pregnant woman and 2 small children go missing, where the LE have waited several days?

 

[Allabouttrial]

Guess we’ll have to wait and see, right?

Right, we sure will.

 

[Allabouttrial]

No. It isn’t an opinion that NUA completely destroyed any further opportunity for CW to conceal evidence.

It is an opinion what specifically CW would have otherwise done, had he the benefit of more time.

Did she completely destroy any further opportunity though? IIRC the sheets weren't found until wednesday and he was home alone on Monday night.

 

[DexterMorgan]

I am hoping, CW is already having nightmares, and they continue for the rest of his pathetic existence.
He cares how he is portrayed, as asked the Thayers, this question, regarding his interviews.
It is just wonderful, that CW will hear, how he is portrayed, all around the world, in numerous countries: so not only in his town, but everywhere, and the trial hasn't started.

I hope he constantly is reminded, how he is portrayed: the world just does not understand this person.
He can explain, if he wishes.

Agree 100%

 

[PrimeSuspect]

True. But you are not a pregnant woman. If she had found out that weekend. that he did have a girlfriend, then that topic of conversation couldn't wait.

She may have just said in quietly, as they laid down to sleep." By the way, we are leaving tomorrow, until you figure it out. I'm done... Good Night..."

I have a feeling it went down like this.

 

[tmar]

Do you know what? When he mentioned in his interview his house seemed to him like a "ghost town" and he had the lights up all night just in case they would "return" - I thought he might have been really afraid of their poor souls haunting him. If it was not that sad it would be somehow funny...

I love that he may have such nightmares, each family member asking him, 'WHY'.
Hope this thought also enters his head, throughout the day, and everyday: especially in Court, when SW's family are watching him.

 

[MassGuy]

Did she completely destroy any further opportunity though? IIRC the sheets weren't found until wednesday and he was home alone on Monday night.

He lost the ability to dump the important things, the car, her phone, and her purse.

That house was almost certainly being watched, he wasn’t going to walk out of there with those bedsheets and not be spotted.

 

[Allabouttrial]

He lost the ability to dump the important things, the car, her phone, and her purse.

That house was almost certainly being watched, he wasn’t going to walk out of there with those bedsheets and not be spotted.

I agree he did lose some opportunities, just not all.

 

[Mrspratcher]

He lost the ability to dump the important things, the car, her phone, and her purse.

That house was almost certainly being watched, he wasn’t going to walk out of there with those bedsheets and not be spotted.

He’s not the sharpest tool in the shed, but he knew better at that point.

 

[k-mac]

killing 3 (really 4) people is premeditated no matter which way you cut your bread.

lashing out and donging someone (ONE PERSON) over the head and them falling over and hitting a rock....then you calling an ambulance to get them help sortof thing is the only type of murder I could comprehend as unpremeditated.

even if it is a spontaneous thought andyou attack 5 seconds later....its still premed with INTENTION.

JMO

 

[rainynights]

Yeah Chris, ask Omar Holguin about searching for a loved one here in Weld County. Nothing is stopping him from searching for his sister in these parts, despite LE stating it could be difficult to locate her (in other words, the whole “you wouldn’t know where to look” sounds like BS to me, or like you said they said it in a supportive way):
“Holguin, a brother of Rita Gutierrez-Garcia, climbs out of a culvert while searching for her body near the intersection of Weld County Roads 7 and 26 Sunday morning. To view more photos and a video visit timescall.com. Lewis Geyer/Staff Photographer July 15, 2018”
Rita Gutierrez-Garcia's family, friends still searching for missing Longmont woman

(WS link for reference for our new local NOCO members brought here via Shanann and the girls, searches are ongoing:
Deceased/Not Found - CO - Rita Gutierrez-Garcia, 34, Longmont, 18 March 2018 )

Thank you for sharing that.
That's love. The love of a brother searching for his sister. ♥

Such a remarkable contrast to the despicable CW, who lies, stands around doing nothing, and eats pizza knowing his dead wife and daughters were dumped out in the middle of nowhere in a silent, desolate place. Jmo

 

[mtnlites]

Have you seen a case where a pregnant woman and 2 small children go missing, where the LE have waited several days?

Not 2 small children but a pregnant woman and a toddler, yes.

 

[MerryB]

No. It isn’t an opinion that NUA completely destroyed any further opportunity for CW to conceal evidence.

It is an opinion what specifically CW would have otherwise done, had he the benefit of more time.

What evidence are you currently aware of that leads you to believe this was pre-planned?

 

[MKZoo]

Did she completely destroy any further opportunity though? IIRC the sheets weren't found until wednesday and he was home alone on Monday night.

I actually wonder why he did not dispose of them more effectively given the time he had alone. Just tossing them in the garbage seems ... pretty dumb. He did voice his concern that he was going to be the obvious suspect. Maybe he believed LE had him under surveillance (no idea if this is true) so he could not just go somewhere and dump them. Opinion/Speculation only.

 

[tmar]

Does it help that we have no choice but to keep going back to the same concerns every few threads (or every thread sometimes)?

But soon, I hope, LE will produce more evidence, before the trial.
We certainly will be busy then, as I believe loads more will be presented to nail CW.
We certainly will forget about squirt bottles etc
MOO.

 

[Best of What's Around]

I do not believe C.W. was on drugs. Rather, I believe it was unplanned. IMO it’s obvious there was just no plan.

Actually, it is obvious there was a plan. Now WHEN that plan, however half-baked it was, came about we do not know. But those bodies did not hide themselves, CW did not get to work in timely fashion by accident, dead wife did not text/call herself, and a story that they were missing did not concoct itself. This was a plan. No plan would have been finding CW home in shock, devastation, and/or grief IMO.

 

[mickey2942]

If your wife had really walked out with your two little children, the first thing to do would be pick up her phone and call everyone she knew, to help you locate her.

Or, call your girlfriend and set up a date, check your phone, see if there is a Steelers game, play Fantasy Football, order Dominoes pizza, check your hair, and make sure you have a new shirt to wear for news interviews.

But, don't assume that there is anything wrong with either response.

 

[tmar]

I know this sounds awful but the prosecution asked for the autopsies to be sealed because of risk of significant injury to the public by having them released. I don’t like to even type this out but does anyone think he could have dismembered Bella and Cece in order to make them fit in the tanks ? I ask because it’s already speculated in the media that the causes of death were strangulations, if the cause of death is already out there, albeit speculated, how can this being verified cause the public anymore injury ? .

There could also be other injuries, to the kiddies bodies prior to their deaths.